I'm Catholic and for Gay Marriage. Many of my Christian friends all talk about the Bibble (Bible, but I pronounce it like 'Bibbul'). I've read parts of the Bible about Homosexuality and all that good stuff. I, myself, believe that Gays should have the right to anything like anyone else. Marriage is just a word, like Union, so why does it have to be different? And since definitions and new words are added and changed to the Dictionary all the time, can't we change the definition of Marriage to 'the uniting of two people in Holy Matrimony'. No gender specifics.

I can't tell you how much Bush pisses me off because of all this.

Oh, and also... Why does religion have to be dragged in? What happened to all those Gay Atheists? Don't they have a say in anything?

Let me ask you:

A) Why did God create people with the options to BE gay if He was against it in the first place?
B) If we're all his sons and daughters, technically aren't all who marry commiting incestism in a way?
C) If God loves us as much as He does, why does it matter who we love as long as it's not breaking The Ten Commandments?

For or against me, shed your light on this.

Love (or Hate),
~Cricket

Im catholic too but I'm sorry..i can not read the bible..I follow catholic principals most of the time, I pray every night and respect my parents
and so on.

if you're for gay marrige thats your opinion but don't start disrespecting other peoples religions everyones for freedom of speach until someone disagrees with you. Religion is very important to some people and if you don't agree with it say so but don't call it bull or whatever thats what causes the world's problems. People so sure they are right they won't open their eyes long enough to see the other person's point of veiw

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A) We have free will so we can do things that god would not approve of if we want, not that we should.

B) You sicken me, that is just idiotic logic.

C) The Ten Comandments are not all that matter in Christianity. Why is there a Bible if all that mattered were them. This is also idiotic.

Don't use insane logic to support your thoughts

Bushsupporter...
Do you have a point. The Comandments are a VERY influential part of the Bible... are you a Catholic.. there are different rules in the Catholic religion, a different hierarchy of importance...

As for your little "we have free will, so we can do things that god would not approve of if we want, not that we shoud" statement, you are correct in this assumption but you have to remember, a beautiful quote is "To Err is Human, to forgive Devine" and that is why God along with the holy trinity are Devine because they can forgive if you ask for it, you must be serious about it... and one should never be sorry for love, but it is up to that person to live a good and holy life, but we are all human...

Sicken you, that's just you being a total idiot! You must be some kind of Homophobic, sheltered, narrow-minded dimwit!. You may not agree with Cricket but honestly, you could have been more polite, and I know that this is not polite but the golden rule states quite frankley "Do unto others as they would do unto you" <-- you being fiercly rude, deserve some fierce thoughts right back at you...

manners.. they'll serve you well

on more question... how is it insane logic when someone is simply stating they're personal views with an actual EXPLANATION!

Hey Cricket3!,

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I'm Catholic and for Gay Marriage. Many of my Christian friends all talk about the Bibble (Bible, but I pronounce it like 'Bibbul'). I've read parts of the Bible about Homosexuality and all that good stuff. I, myself, believe that Gays should have the right to anything like anyone else. Marriage is just a word, like Union, so why does it have to be different? And since definitions and new words are added and changed to the Dictionary all the time, can't we change the definition of Marriage to 'the uniting of two people in Holy Matrimony'. No gender specifics.

I can't tell you how much Bush pisses me off because of all this.

Oh, and also... Why does religion have to be dragged in? What happened to all those Gay Atheists? Don't they have a say in anything?

Let me ask you:

A) Why did God create people with the options to BE gay if He was against it in the first place?
B) If we're all his sons and daughters, technically aren't all who marry commiting incestism in a way?
C) If God loves us as much as He does, why does it matter who we love as long as it's not breaking The Ten Commandments?

For or against me, shed your light on this.

Love (or Hate),
~Cricket

That was a beautiful statement!! I my self am a devout Catholic, and I totally agree. Marriage is the uniting people together to spend and live their lives together because they LOVE.

In your "Let me ask you:" section, you forgot one statement... GOD LOVES US! and who we love doesn't matter at all! And me being a heterosexual catholic woman, with many, many gay friends, I love them with all my heart of hearts, and there is nothing wrong with them.

LOVE is the most beautiful thing in the world; no matter who it is between Love will always be absolutly beautiful!

Thank you [u]SOO[/u] much... this was amazing!

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Originally posted by cricket3:
I'm Catholic and for Gay Marriage. Many of my Christian friends all talk about the Bibble (Bible, but I pronounce it like 'Bibbul'). I've read parts of the Bible about Homosexuality and all that good stuff. I, myself, believe that Gays should have the right to anything like anyone else. Marriage is just a word, like Union, so why does it have to be different? And since definitions and new words are added and changed to the Dictionary all the time, can't we change the definition of Marriage to 'the uniting of two people in Holy Matrimony'. No gender specifics.

I can't tell you how much Bush pisses me off because of all this.

Oh, and also... Why does religion have to be dragged in? What happened to all those Gay Atheists? Don't they have a say in anything?

Let me ask you:

A) Why did God create people with the options to BE gay if He was against it in the first place?
B) If we're all his sons and daughters, technically aren't all who marry commiting incestism in a way?
C) If God loves us as much as He does, why does it matter who we love as long as it's not breaking The Ten Commandments?

For or against me, shed your light on this.

Love (or Hate),
~Cricket

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i dont knw why religion shud be something that keeps u back..instead ppl never look at it as something that cud be used for liberating..not everything shud be hard and fast....as long as u dont really harm someone then i dont see what the churches problem shud be....its ur damn life for gods sake.....
i think the biggest advance human beings can claim to make in our running year is to make gay marige universal and just grow up a little.....

As christians we ought bo tolerant of other people and many of us are. There is, however; a difference between being tolerant and supporting or enabling something.
God gives us free will because he is like a parent. You want to protect your children and do everything for them but at some point you have to release them and see what decisions they make on their own, when they choose correctly it is very pleasing both for you and for them.
If we are to believe biblical creation type theory then yes, technically we are all related and committing "incestism" on a regular basis with distant, distant, distant cousins. If we are to believe evolution, however, wouldn't we believe that a male and female woman formed and then created offsrping, so we'd all be related anyway? I'm not too informed on evolution's exact principles but it does take some faith to believe in evolution just like creation.
As to the changing of definitions, Marriage is more than just a word in a book or a law. It is also an ideal. Marriage has been crumbling in our country since divorce and adultery have started running rampant, and legalizing gay marriage would only be another blow. As for the word union, gay couples may already achieve that socially in many places.

I agree with you, cricket3.

I just think that the whole "issue" of gay marraige is crazy. People don't want it to happen mostly because of their religious beliefs, but not everyone is a Christian. The government shouldn't restrict us b/c of a religion.

If someone is a Christian, they know the consequences of sinning, and they can take the Bible however they please. Most of it is vague anyways. There are so many different beliefs, what's so wrong with them creating one more if they feel it justified? You don't have to follow it. You don't have to like it.

God gave us free will.

Besides, what is marraige anymore but a document?

My mom's side of the family are all Catholic and for gay marriage (except my grandfather, but he's also xenophobic and somewhat racist). My uncle is a devout Christian who is also gay.

In any case, this is not a matter of religion. This is a matter of rights. I don't see how gay people marrying will affect the US in such a way that it'll change forever. Don't tell me your morals will fall, they already have, pro-anas, look at your TV (Desperate Housewives being a prime example), your crappy music, etc.

Interestingly, the part of the bible about homosexuality really can be interpreted in a different way. It says don't lie with a dude the way you lie with a woman if you are a dude. Now, this can be read as "if you're a guy, don't have sex with guys", or it can be read as "if you're a guy, when you have sex with other men, do so differently than if you had sex with a woman". Now, considering anatomy differences, this is sort of obvious, but maybe the bible wanted to be extra specific. Or, it can merely be saying, "avoid penetration as this is the bible age and we don't have condoms and lube, so stick with oral sex". I'm an athiest anyway so I don't care what the bible says, but I read it like that to p.i.s.s off the conservatives if nothing else. I think this post might get knocked off. That would suck.

A) We have free will so we can do things that god would not approve of if we want, not that we should.

B) You sicken me, that is just idiotic logic.

C) The Ten Comandments are not all that matter in Christianity. Why is there a Bible if all that mattered were them. This is also idiotic.

Don't use insane logic to support your thoughts.