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If he is a homo, he to may be proud. Would you prefer poof?

Use the full term or I'll assume it was derogatory. I was offended by it.

Well, Triss. He did say maybe.

Also, I would like everyone to dwell on this simple phrase: the pursuit of happiness. Maybe ( just maybe ) having a carreer makes some women happy. And ( gods forbid ) sometimes staying at home makes some men happy.

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No, but doing it by staying home and mothering it, instead of going out and providing for it does.

That's based on your personal opinion, not a fact. I personally wouldn't mind taking turns, because I do intend on having a career.

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My boss was a woman and still all that happened.

Maybe you were a poor worker. Its easy to blame your boss for your treatment.

Here you are assuming something, you don't know me so don't assume that I wasn't working hard.

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I don't think that taking care of his own kids makes a man less of a man.

No, but doing it by staying home and mothering it, instead of going out and providing for it does.

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That's rude.

Ah, but would it be rude to call him a hetero! Of course! If someone called me a hetero I would be proud, not insulted. Thats one-sided my dear. If he is a homo, he to may be proud. Would you prefer poof?

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My boss was a woman and still all that happened.

Maybe you were a poor worker. Its easy to blame your boss for your treatment.

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I thought the US was building a wall.

Really! Over mexico! Good on em! Its nice to see a western country saying "this is ours" for once. Much better than todays commie-esque "This is all of ours equally".

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By the way, facts with sources, not stereotypes, please.

Er... Oh, you think Im 'stereotyping' now. Is men beer a valid statement? Yes, because they do. Its is valid (and don't give me that "Not ALL men so its not valid nonsense). And muslim women do like having large families, it is part of their culture. Would you like me to provide a source for men liking beer? No? Well heres one saying the average number of children muslims women has is 6.
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That wasn't the only thing from his post that was rude. I found the entire thing offensive.

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Maybe your boss was a homo

That's rude.

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Maybe your boss was a homo. ;-)

My boss was a woman and still all that happened.

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Im suprised the populations aren't climbing! The western countries seem to have an 'open-gate' policy towards immigration. The east-euros and muslims aren't silly. They know what a good life we have, with our welfare-states and what-not. Note the muslims, with their attitude towards a womans role, have large population growth. As far as I know, its not uncommon for a muslim women to have 7+ kids.

Open gate? I thought the US was building a wall.

By the way, facts with sources, not stereotypes, please.

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Thats emmasculation.

I take it you mean "emasculation." And I don't agree. I don't think that taking care of his own kids makes a man less of a man.

Maybe your boss was a homo. ;-)

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What type of feminism are you talking about?

If your feminism is defence of women when their lives are genuinly being made crap, such as in some male chauvinist cultures (e.g. taliban), your feminism is in the right. These cultures are not interested in womens roles, they are cultures in which pathetic men inflict themselves upon their women.
Thats the only place for feminism.

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population appears to be staying roughly the same.

Im suprised the populations aren't climbing! The western countries seem to have an 'open-gate' policy towards immigration. The east-euros and muslims aren't silly. They know what a good life we have, with our welfare-states and what-not. Note the muslims, with their attitude towards a womans role, have large population growth. As far as I know, its not uncommon for a muslim women to have 7+ kids.

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what is wrong with men taking turns and taking care of the kids as well?

Thats emmasculation.

And shade, your idea of allowing our populations drop is very nice, but there are others who aren't. The nature of man suggests they will tell us to clear off our resources when the time is right...

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I worked at a restaruant and got paid 7 dollars an hour, which was 1.50 bellow minimum wage. This guy, because he was a guy, got paid 11.00 for the same job even though he had less senority. The job, was washing dishes. Plus, my boss was extremely verbally abusive towards me, and never the guy. I quit :P

Oh, that truly sucks Triss. And what a jerk. This is the type of thing I was referring to with this thread.

Can I tell you a story? I told it in another thread, but I'll do it again.

I worked at a restaruant and got paid 7 dollars an hour, which was 1.50 bellow minimum wage. This guy, because he was a guy, got paid 11.00 for the same job even though he had less senority. The job, was washing dishes. Plus, my boss was extremely verbally abusive towards me, and never the guy. I quit :P

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You don't understand the nature of this feminism. Women in careers will often go without children until its too late (because a child is 'career suicide'). Feminism says to women, "You can choose if you want to have children". "You can work instead of being a stay at home mom caring for your kids". It has repercussions, women need to take responsibility for their traditional role.

What type of feminism are you talking about? There are multiple feminist ideologies and types of feminists. Please clarify.

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The idea that the population of the world is spiraling out of control is too general. In the majority of European countries, the populations are plumeting. Other countries are the opposite.

In the US and roughly half the European Countries (Especially those more western) the population appears to be staying roughly the same.

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RD, refer to what Meagen said. Hmm, the part I quoted. Eh? Eh!

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Feminism says to women, "You can choose if you want to have children". "You can work instead of being a stay at home mom caring for your kids". It has repercussions, women need to take responsibility for their traditional role.

And what is wrong with men taking turns and taking care of the kids as well?

Argh 6 vs 1, im going to get smashed! ;-[
Forgive me, I like that quip about societies 'suffering' from feminism, its a personal favourite.

You don't understand the nature of this feminism. Women in careers will often go without children until its too late (because a child is 'career suicide'). Feminism says to women, "You can choose if you want to have children". "You can work instead of being a stay at home mom caring for your kids". It has repercussions, women need to take responsibility for their traditional role.

The idea that the population of the world is spiraling out of control is too general. In the majority of European countries, the populations are plumeting. Other countries are the opposite.

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All it would mean is that men and women have equal opportunities to obtain these positions, and would then have equal treatment once there.

Thats nonsense. I can't believe you would think that. You think they're going to want women carrying heavy battle gear for miles during a war? You really think thats sensible? You think men are going to want to hire women for heavy labour jobs? "Where are all the female concrete workers! Its sexist discrimination!".

Or maybe you haven't thought of this one: Maybe women do not earn as much as men because of they're differences in job ability? But no, men and women are equal therefore exactly the same comrades.

But how do men pay their debt to society?

I say we take all women who refuse to pay their debts to society through procreation and grind them into soylent green biscuits.

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All that means is more space and resources for everyone else.

Three cheers for Meg!

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Feminists should note this: Feminism puts the birth rates of nations/cultures which suffer from it below the replacement level. You can argue it, but that won't change the cold hard truth.

WHICH SUFFER FROM IT?!?!?! (That in and of itself was enough to discredit you in my eyes, but let me continue, shall I?)

Just because someone is a feminist doesn't mean that they don't want to have kids...it means that they believe in equality among the sexes. Unless you have proof to back up that statement that women who want equal protection under the law and society in general choose to procreate at a lower rate than non-feminists, don't even go there.

(Furthermore, even if what you were saying WAS correct, who really cares if there are enough births to replace deaths? All that means is more space and resources for everyone else. If what you are saying is true, it would actually be a positive thing for an overcrowded world. There will always be people who want to have children, so the species will never die out...and it will keep the world population from spiraling out of control, which it appears to be doing at the moment.)

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I can imagine a nation which enforces this equality. 50-50 men-women army. Labourers, builders, etc 50-50 men-women. 50-50 man-woman caring for the children.

Having an equal society would not require that there is an equal number of men and women in certain positions. In fact, as an avid supporter of banning affirmative action, requiring equality is a surefire way to prevent it. All it would mean is that men and women have equal opportunities to obtain these positions, and would then have equal treatment once there.