Find, explore and network a cause.  
YN Home  
Home Causes Boards Debate Tools Join YN!
Search YN:
 
YouthNoise Home Page    Topics    Youth Speak Out | Chat | Activism  Hop To Forum Categories  SOCIETY  Hop To Forums  Ending the isms    California cop beats teen
Page 1 2 3 
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
  Login/Join 
Registered: June 04, 2002
Posts: 7
Posted   Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Hey, did you guys hear about the white California police officer who assaulted a black sixteen-year-old developmentally disabled teen?

The kid's father was being questioned for driving with a suspended license and police on the scene say the kid attacked them. But the family denies this.

The officer, Jeremy Morse, slammed the guy into the hood of a car and punched him in the face after he was handcuffed.

All of this was caught on tape. What do you think about this?
Registered: March 04, 2002
Posts: 86
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Well the good news is that he was fired.
Registered: August 05, 2002
Posts: 674
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
i got arrested once for being in a stolen car.
While on the ground, in handcuffs, a cop kicked me in the head, stomped on my shoulders, lifted me up by my shirt and slammed me against the cop car.
I personally think that SOME cops are natural power mongers who take their addrenaline junkie fueled position of power to wierd human levels.
some cops are actually corteous and professional, like some female cops i've known (and liked getting handcuffed by wink
YOu have to question the motives of being a cop in the first place; either they want to protect and serve the law and people; or their wives are always yelling cause they have a small pen*s eek
Picture of UUgirl13
Registered: July 25, 2002
Posts: 2
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
You know, this is the kind of crap that really ticks me off! mad mad mad mad I can't believe someone got it on tape, and the cop says the boy attacked him! How much do you want to bet, that the cop gets off? Did anyone ever hear about those cops who shot a black, taxi driver? He didn't even speak english. They shot like 36 times and 14 shots actually hit him. They got off. I was really apalled by their behavior! mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad
Picture of betsy14
Registered: July 19, 2002
Posts: 5
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
The world is going to end if all this s*** continues.Theres no real reason for which that cop should ahve hit that boy.Hes not even an adult.If it was because he was black that has nothing to do with it.So, im white.Does that say anything about me?NO.We all need to learn how to live together. PEACEFULLY.Regardless of race, religion and beliefs.Now more than ever we need to show eachother that we're strong.

Betsy
Picture of marine16
Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Kilo, I will admitt, they might have been a little excessive when they hit him. But you are right, someone must be punished for assaulting a cop and it doesn't matter wheter or not he is in handcufss. Now, there is a possibility this is race related but there is none that it is disability related. I think we hcan settle on this. I am with you, this site could use a lesson on the proper way to disagree.
Registered: March 19, 2002
Posts: 140
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
The police officers were wrong, there's no question about that. It may have been racial, or ability related. But I think what Marine is trying to say is that, first of all, why is it ok for the boy to assault the officers? It's not. Secondly, this is not necessarily a racial or ability related thing. Now, I must admit, Marine and I disagree constantly on race related issues. So, even though we have disagreements we are usually able to come up with an ultimatium. Everyone on this board (including myself at times) should learn a lesson from that.
Registered: April 03, 2002
Posts: 169
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
"If he was white, no body would give two ****s about this. That is sad."


I actually agree with you on that.


There is definately a media bias.
Picture of marine16
Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
It makes me sick that a boy would assault police officers. It makes me sick that the boy would continue to assault them after he was hand cuffed. It makes me sick that people are alliviating responsability for the child because he is disabled. It makes me sick that people give police power, and then when they use, people turn their backs on him. It makes me sick that people are playing the race card. It makes sick that people only consider the tape, and ignore what happened before it.

You people think that the police should not retliate for being assaulted. Why is that? Are you people suggesting that it is okay for a criminal to grab another a police officers groin and not face retaliation?

If he was white, no body would give two ****s about this. That is sad.
Registered: July 10, 2002
Posts: 27
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
You may as well leave out "developmentally disabled". The kid attacked a police officer. Being developmentally disabled doesn't give you an excuse when you attack someone. And the police officer would not have stopped to wonder if the kid was "developmentally disabled" when the kid attacked him. It was gruesome, true. But I just wanted to comment on the whole "developmentally disabled" thing... mad ~alex
Registered: June 03, 2002
Posts: 4
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
I think it was disgusting of the cops to beat that boy....it makes me SO angry that people who are supposed to help other ppl going around beating others up...for all I care, I couldn't give a **** if the guy had just murdered someone...it doesn't mean that guy had to smash his head in - hes a cop for ****s sake!! Cops are not supposed to do that!! He is SUPPOSED to help ppl not smash them against boots of cars!! **** the LAPD...sum of them are the most corrupt motha ****ers..

[incase u haven't realised this really really annoys me] lol
Registered: April 19, 2002
Posts: 27
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
i think that beating a person like that is just a disgusting thing to do. The officers should go to jail for a long time. I hate when I see things like that. It hurts me a lot, because i can just imagine one of my close relatives being beaten like that. people like those police officers should really be punished.
Registered: June 25, 2002
Posts: 4
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
When I saw that video footage I wanted to cry for that boy, his family, his friends, and anyone else that experiences that. I mean its just horrible to see someone use their power in suck a sick and twisted way. That officer should be put in jail for life, they should make him suffer. And it does not matter what the boy did because once you are in handcuffs an officer has no right to hit you or use violence toward you especially in such a vile way.
Picture of marine16
Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
You have still not answered my question loctus. "Because they beliebe that the justice system works properly, which is not the case." This answers none of my questions regard allowing felony records in court and comparing this to Rodney King. Pleas answer those question without using a generalization and talking about Hemp.

I am still waiting for a criminal record.
Registered: April 03, 2002
Posts: 1141
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Because they beliebe that the justice system works properly, which is not the case.

The cannabis growing and smoking presidents do not have criminal records for those actions becaues they were smart enough to know that growing andsmoking cannabis is not wrong and they did not prohibit it. It wasnt prohibited until the 30s. Your ignorance and guilty until proven innocent argument techniques would be better placed in an interrogation room than in a forum in which people are intended to discuss matters rather than stoops to personal attacks as you do in every one of your posts.
Picture of marine16
Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Loctus, since you are such an expert on our legal system answer this. You claim being a criminal doesn't discredit anybody. Then why do over 70% of state courts allow felonies to be read into the record simply to discredit people?

Also, I am still waiting for those criminal records.
Picture of marine16
Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Rodney king was a multiple felon. He was driving 110 mph. On his own account he was high. He assaulted police officers. We saw the police officers beat him, not King assualt them. A court of law, determined that they did use lawful force. The police officers were found not guilty based on testimony that King assaulted him. How the hell do you think this case will be different? Its not at all. The boy assaulted police officers. More people than the accused witnessed this. They beat him in return. Who are we to critize? Are we police officers? No. We can not possibley say they hit him too much because they were officers of the law who have jobs we can not possibley comprhend. If you honestly think they will be found guilty than you are quite ignorant of our modern legal system. The tape doesn't have to show anything. This case will come down to testimony. And if you think a mentally handicapped child and his protective dad is as credible as two decorated police officers then you are wrong.

Also, you say it is in their best interests to lie. They don't have to. Because this is simply another rodney king trial. Youre right, they could lie. But the boy faces just as much time as they do for resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer. Remember, ther will not be just one trial here.
Registered: April 03, 2002
Posts: 1141
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
Marine, it is in everybody's best interest, but the cop is the one who has been shown on tape beating the kid and ence the one who is presumably guilty. Unless evidence is shown that proves the kid is guilty of assaullting the officer, he is innocent, as desptite what you would like to think, that is how the US justice system is intended to work.

That Jefferson, Washington, and Lincoln would all be criminals under todays laws indicates that htose laws are absurd. Marijuana did not make them into mornons or significantly harm them. And do not attempt to say that marijuana is much more potent today. Smokeable hemp (indian hemp) of that time was around 1 or two percent THC, whereas the average modern day marijuana is 5-10 percent, but we smoke less to get high now than they did in the time of our great presidents.
Picture of marine16
Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
I am sorry, I asked for criminal records. Not what he would hypotheticaly get arrested for. If he has no record he is no criminal. Wheter if it was legal, he broke no crime and todays laws are irrelevant. So once again, find me criminal records and his punishments and then I will believe he is a criminal. Todays standards are our of the picture. Please prove to me he was found guilty in a court of law. If you find nothing, then he is not a criminal.

You also claim it was in the cops best interests to lie. It is also in the fathers and sons best interests. The son faces jail time for assaulting a police officer. The father doesn't want his son to go to jail. It would certainly be in the best interests of the father and son to lie.
aub
Registered: July 13, 2002
Posts: 1
Posted   Hide PostReply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post  
it is in the constitution that a person is innocent until proven guilty. The cop claims the kid assaulted him prior to the video tape being shot, so we can't assume that the cop had no motive.

but that doesnt mean i dont think the cop overreacted and shouldnt have beat the kid, it just means we need to keep an open mind until the cop is proven either guilty or innocent. but if he is guilty, then i believe that he should be punished severly.
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community Page 1 2 3  
 

YouthNoise Home Page    Topics    Youth Speak Out | Chat | Activism  Hop To Forum Categories  SOCIETY  Hop To Forums  Ending the isms    California cop beats teen