Some feminists, I don't have a problem with. Yeah, mailman, mail women, mailperson. Instead of mankind, Humankind. But the minute they talk about renaming a MANhole to a PEOPLEhole is the time I smack her on the head.



God I love George Carlin.

. . .and radical feminists, who are usually the man haters, and support the elimination of all forms of gender classification.
--redjill55

A radical feminist is a feminist who wants to re-examine existing structures and rebuild them, if necessary. Has nothing to do with man hating.

feminism has existed since the 1800s when women protested the right to vote, and with a lot of effort and persuation they had the right to vote. But the year when feminsim really started to evolve was in the 1960s , Betty frienden and other feminists started something called (NOW) i forgot what it stands for..lol..!! anyway if it was not for them then for every dollar a man makes a women makes 64 cents!! i know it hasent dramatically changed but it shows what women can do if they set there minds on actually doing it.

I for one am not truly into the radical protests and stuff, like ghandi and martin luther king i believe in peacefull protests.
i guess thats all i have to say.

I am a true feminist. I am not anti-men but I do believe in supporting women's rights and help try to make the "battle of the sexes" non-exsistent. I have my beliefs and I stick to them, whether or not someone agrees to me. I am outraged at some of the close-minded comments on this board. If you dont' really understand what feminism means, why not try to look it up, you obviously have access to the Internet, and try to learn something about it instead of showing pure ignorance! And as a matter of fact, I would sign up to the draft but I'm not 18 yet!

Yes, I'm a feminist. So is my mother, so is my father, so is my brother. So is Ashley Judd, which is kind of off topic I suppose.

About women preferring muscular guys, I just want to say that I prefer super skinny whiny emo boys with messy hair and tight t-shirts and boot-cut jeans and rectangular glasses . . . rawr. Um, anyway, I would suggest you go here. It's an interesting thread at some other message boards, just promise me you won't post there until you read every page. That's rude.

Dante's smart.

oh, but we're not! cuz ya know, why would we be people? we only marry and have sex with men. Which, i am assuming they are considered people. Then, wait... that means guys are not people either. They are part people and part women. So, that makes them not a person.

Wow, dante, thanks for opening everyone's eyes. hahaha

In general, Feminism is the radical notion that women are people...

about the feminists that think that the draft is crap for everyone? the reasons for some people not wanting the draft has nothing to do with being male or female because there are males and females against it and for it. I could tell you why im against it but that doesnt belong here. And feminism is not a large cause of marital problems, money is the biggest factor and I can give you statistics if you want. And feminism is a marital problem then the guy or girl is definitely not worth it. If someone cannot pledge themselves equal to me they dont repect me and that is the cause for the problem, lack of respect. I think you have an extreme version of feminism in your head. some of hte extremists are not true feminists either they just slap the name on. Those few that are that way ruin the name for the rest of us who truly care about equality. It is true for many things

People are stupid. I hate stupid people. You cant blame people for what they think. Only what they do...

Correction : :

Greed and Ego are the NUMBER 1 causes of divorce. Feminism sometimes just reveals to people the ****ty situations they've created for themselves.

On a side note, it's pretty silly to try and blame a concept for things that go wrong with people. Individuals need to take responsibility for the choices they make.

Feminism is the NUMBER 1 cause of divorce

I think it's really important to distinguish between the very different issues of feminism and pacifism. I wouldn't go for a draft because I am a pacifist and I know that war is wrong. I am a feminist and I do believe that we should be working to move toward equality. We still have a long way to go in terms of equality in society (i.e. workplace, etc.) but I thank the sisters who helped pave the way. It took a bit of bra burning to really make the hardcore oppressors sit up and take notice. Now the approach is thankfully more realistic and focuses on the bridging of gaps and celebrating diversity.

"How wrong it is for a woman to expect the man to build the world she wants, rather than to create it herself."
- Anais Nin (1903-1977)

We should all be actively trying to balance the gender war with intelligence and reality.

peace,
flow23

you i understand that all females or almost all females want to have equal rights and they should but the thing that gets me is that most people aren't willing to take the good with the bad. if females are to be equal with men than we have to have the same privleges and reposiblities.that means that if their if a draft it should effect both men and women that everyone should be payed equal and be able to get they same jobs based on skill. but no one really seems to think that way. now a days if you talk to someone that thinks that they are a feminist and ask them are you willing to go through this even if it means that when you are needed you will go to war jail or be drafted they all back out. well get it straight are you in for equal rights or just so that you are reconized. do you want equal rights or not? if you have any comments on what i wrote tell me (email me) because i want to know what you think.

I was born male, I am hetero and very happy in a relationship with an astounding woman.
I think 100 years from now if we survive this patriarchal madness, people will recognize that feminism changed the world and stopped us from carreening off the abbys in histerically historical fits of phallocentric madness.

reading the work of a brilliant woman changed my life. I always leaned towards feminism but reading her work really adjusted many things in my head and let me see that the roots of patriarchy are deep inside of us born male and that our patriarchy is not going to go away simply with taking a womens study course and offering lip-service solidarity to our Sisters.

I am looking to get together with other men and boys to discuss patriarchy and what we can do to end it either online or IRL.
my e-mail is horsimus@yahoo.com

that is where the femminists need to focus, but lately I have had to defend femminism more than be an active femminist.

A lot of women in the US and other countries are politically focused in their feminism. What about other types of feminism that are equally important and maybe more so. Global feminism is an important type of feminism that looks at the fate of women all over the world. They are going to middle eastern countries to stop the ineqaulities of women (trying to anyways), and more importantly, to stop the ****oridectomys and infibulation, the cutting off of genitalia of female children. These feminist risk much to try and see thats these women try and get back some dignity. And its not only in the middle east, but eastern countries such as china, and centered in africa. And also as these communities migrate, the customs also occur here in the usa. So while most women feel proud of all that their liberal political feminism has accomplished here, I cannot help but think about the long road still ahead for many women of other countries just for sexual freedom to have the bodies they were born with. peace, boots

Ok, so if there's so much feminism out there, and people support women, why havn't we had a woman president yet? I mean, look at some of the countries that had or still have women leaders. most of them are countries where women have much less rights for women than we do, and much less tolerence. some of them are even countries where women need to be veiled. and they get a woman president before the U.S. does? that's just messed up.
cheers
KC

Well, now that's not really true for everyone. Really muscular guys SCARE me; I prefer a more thin guy. There was one study described in Discover magazine where women and men were asked to distort a person's features until they looked attractive to them. Most women picked a man with a "softer" look to him, almost borderline androgenous. The super-masculine man got the thumbs-down with most of the women, who said that he looked like he wouldn't be a good father or caring partner. The men in the study, true to type, picked out the most feminine-looking woman possible. I think it is a mix of both genetics (nature) and culture (nuture), since what is good-looking now might be plain ugly in several decades...

Okay, I think I've gotten off topic here...

Geneitics has proven most women like muscular guys, and most guys like more emotional women with larger breasts. If this wasn't true, these traits wouldn't have occured.