I'm not looking for anything. The bible says witchcraft is evil. Therefore, in my view it is evil. I don't claim to understand or be knowledgeable about wicca.

well of course I can get what you beleive from your websites- . I don't doubt you beleive yourselves to be good.

First of all, Thanks jstar!

Second of all, bob, it seems to me that you are searching for reasons to hate Wicca. I'd like you to know that that is very insulting to me, not to meantion ignorant on your part. Listen, I know there are 'Wiccans' who do things that aren't right but there are also Christians, Muslims, etc who also twist their religions.

The Wiccan Law is what most Wiccans follow. I will post that here with a summary of each line:

Bide the Wiccan law ye must
In perfect love and perfect trust (be loving and trustworthy of others and the goddess)
Eight words the Wiccan Rede fullfill
An ye harm none do what ye will (As long as you don't harm yourself or others, do as you will)
What ye send out comes back to thee
So ever mind the law of three (If you do good, you're rewarded three times over, and if you do wrong you are punished three times as well)
Follow this with mind and heart
Merry ye meet and merry ye part
Blessed be

Do you find anything in that Law which encourages hate, discrimination, or cursing? I didn't think so. I'm Wiccan, my friends are Wiccan, I speak to other Wiccans, and research from Books by not only Wiccans but other people as well, so I should know my own religion (or at least my sect of it).

~Becca

You asked her to give you information on what Wiccans believe. Who better to tell you what Wiccans believe than a Wiccan? Just like if somebody asked us what a Christian believes... and we wanted to refer them to a website, we'd give them a Christian website. True, that website might not talk about curses done against others...but that is because that is apparently not a characteristic of a Wiccan...just like a Christian website would not want to discuss "Christians" who bomb abortion clinics. She's just giving you what you asked for.

so I should quite posting my terrible flawed sites, but for some reason I am sopposed to beleive that the sites your giving links to are objective and honest?
let's see- to get objective information about wicca I should go a site made by wiccans? Oh, that makes perfect sense ( for objective information about facism I guess I should look at Mein Kampf)

Good Gaia!

Wondrousbob, did you even go to the site I posted?!

Please explore that site before posting any more ridiculous, WRONG, predjudiced sites! The one you posted, is indeed, crap. WICCANS ARE NOT EVIL! HOW many times do I have to say it!?

Here, try ANOTHER site!

Wicca

And another!


Wiccan Ways

~Becca

It must be so difficult to be a Wiccan.People are ignorant and act ridiculous when they are faced with The Craft. But I dont really have a problem with it.

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But I have heard mention of hexing being done between witches for more mundane reasons, over quarrels about money for example, or to gain retribution against an employer who was unsympathetic.

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It's funny how people who try to back up their misconceptions use hearsay and rumor as facts and truths. Here's a great site that helps counter all that: www.religioustolerance.org

Every religion has some hypocritical practicioners that twist the doctrine of their faith around to suit their purposes. That doesn't mean that they truly represent what their religion is all about. One might as well conclude that those "Christians" that express hate for all non-Christians or even blow up abortion clinics represent the "true nature" their faith.

TAKEN FROM http://www.thunderministries.com/cults/occults.htm
( note- this site has some rather odd music which may sound like your speakers are buzzing at first)

Curses
Although many Wiccans do steer away from putting curses on others, there are others who will become involved in the cursing of an enemy. I know that this was certainly the case in my own experience in the occult. I had a close friend who called himself "a white witch", but had no qualms about cursing someone who got in his way, or whom he simply took a dislike to! The truth is, that despite the denials of some of those who practice white witchcraft, the practice of cursing one's enemies is prevalent in the craft. For example, Witchcraft author, Susan Greenwood, explains:

"Witchcraft rituals may be performed for healing..., or, as one wiccan explained to me, they may be enacted for 'the grey area of magic' - 'hexing', 'sending' and 'fetching' energy for a specific purpose, or 'binding'" (Susan Greenwood, Magic, Witchcraft and the Otherworld: An Anthropology, p. 200).

The practice of cursing one's enemies in Wicca, if admitted, is usually qualified with the explanation that it is only ever performed on those who deserve it, such as against a violent offender etc. However, this is a definite grey area, as individual witches have different views on when they have been wronged and exactly who should be hexed. Again, Greenwood explains:

"The Dianic Witch, Z. Budapest in The Holy Book of Women's Mysteries says that if women hex rapists or others who 'commit crimes of patriarchy', there is no divine retribution. She gives instructions on how to perform a 'Righteous Hex', for 'violent criminals only' and when you 'know, not just think' that someone has harmed you' (1990). But I have heard mention of hexing being done between witches for more mundane reasons, over quarrels about money for example, or to gain retribution against an employer who was unsympathetic." (Susan Greenwood, Magic, Witchcraft and the Otherworld: An Anthropology, p. 201).

Excuse me wondrousbob?

What Wiccan books are these which promote Cursing? I've NEVER come across a book on WICCA which speaks of Cursing other people. Some witchcraft books do say things like that, but then again, you must realize that Witchcraft encompases all kinds of magick, including the not-so-good kinds that Wiccans stay away from.

Some Wiccan books talk about cursing bad feelings or bad events that have happened such as cursing bad luck away, and such, but I don't believe I've ever seen a Wiccan book say anything about cursing another person by means of hurting them. And yes, there are psycho Wiccans out there who twist the religion around to suit their twisted views, but that happens in every religion. REAL WICCANS DO NO HARM OTHERS! the Wiccan law can be shortened into one sentence: 'Harm None'!!

~Becca

Despite what you claim- wiccan books themselves include instructions on how to "curse" someone. Of course they then try to justify it by saying they only do it to "bad" people. The ability to curse, for whatever reason, occupies a major part in witchcraft.
I would certainly consider cursing someone harmful, wouldn't you?

wonderousbob:

As I said, Check out the site. You need to understand that Magick is just a part of Wicca, and you don't even have to use ritual Magick as a Wiccan.

Magick.. lets see, I'll define it the way I think of it...

Magick is positive engery. By directing positive energy through ritual and other things you try to help make your life, others lives, and generally the world a better place. There are many ways of directing this magick. You can uses Candle Magick, Rope Magick, Ritual, Meditation, Herbal lore, Simpathetic Magick(which is the oldest kind, by the way) etc. Magick also encompasses divination, astral projection, etc. Magick can be as simple as brewing a friend a cup of tea when they're down, writing someone an inspirational letter when they're having difficulties, Giving a hug to a friend or a family matter. In a way, the words Magick and Love can be used interchangably, for Love is what the Wiccan Ways are all about. If you used Magick to harm others it wouldn't be magick in the way I'm describing it, and if you DO use magick to harm others you are definately not Wiccan.

There you go. Any other questions?

Blessed be

~Becca

I have heard that many people harbor the erroneous attitude that wicca and christianity are compatible. They aren't. In case any of you think this, I found something on a website that may be of interest to you-


-Conversation begins-

Druidking: Why use this trash then if You did not write it. "Thou shalt not judge"

ANSWER: (1 Cor 2:15 KJV) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Druidking: Unless YOU LEARN the fundamentals of what You are talking about, please refrain from "basshing" it. I learned that God takes a spectators seat in life. He allows Us to choose the manner in which We worship Him. Who is to say Yours is the right way, or Mine? Only Him.

ANSWER: (John 14:6 KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Druidking: I have extended the courtesy of linking To Your site on My "Page of Stupidity and Ignorance".

ANSWER: (2 Cor 10:12 KJV) For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

Druidking: So far Your site is the only listing. If We are going to judge each other, and quote "experts" then I can go on for days giving "absolute proof" that Christianity is a farce. For One, the book was written across the ages, not by one MAN, but by many.

ANSWER: (2 Pet 1:21 KJV) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Druidking: How about "Witch Hunts" and " The Inquisition" and "Capital Punishment" that Christians have come up with? Does the commandment " THOU SHALT NOT KILL" mean anything? I'm tired of Christians knocking Druids( and other pagans) for Their beliefs and practises when the Christians do the same things.

ANSWER: (Mat 7:22 KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (Mat 7:23 KJV) And then will I PROFESS UNTO THEM, I never knew you: DEPART from me, ye that WORK INIQUITY.

Druidking: I decided to pay honor to God through what He has made, not what man has made Him. The true beauty of God is in this wonderful world, not a book. I have also taken the liberty to begin a documentary of the " Duality of Christianity" which will be posted on the Net. This page will be a page like the one You had with the non-functioning e-mail link that You hid behind.

ANSWER: (Phil 3:19 KJV) Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind EARTHLY things.

Druidking: Only I can stand up with faith in MY belief and I will NOT HIDE like a scolded dog!

ANSWER: E-MAIL ADDRESS - boanerges54@hotmail.com

(2 Tim 3:8 KJV) Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
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you still haven't answered my question. what exactly is the point of this "magick" you use.

I am a wiccan too. A person needs to be responsible with magick. Like ppl always think that magick is just a way to get wat u want but watever a person sends out comes back by 3. I found that out when i first started practicing wicca. I have been a wiccan since last year. I still haven't told my father because he will just say i'm not.

blessed be,
Tucker

wonderousbob: you have MANY misconceptions about Wicca. I would explain the religion to you, but as I don't have the time and also because there are many different denominations and I could never cover them all, I will do this.

Go to this site.


nullWicca

It seems pretty accurate in its info, feel free to ask me if you have any questions.

~Becca

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90% of teenagers in school just say they are wiccan/pagan when they have no idea what it is...they just do it to be cool and make a bad name for the rest of us.

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Ironic...
...say's Buffy the Vampire Slayer...

wicca/pagan has NOTHING to do with satan...they dont even believe in him...90% of teenagers in school just say they are wiccan/pagan when they have no idea what it is...they just do it to be cool and make a bad name for the rest of us.

in my school there are so many refrences to wicca, that it is almost sad. in choir we are singing as song called Yule be Rockin, which is christmas oriented, for holloween we had witch's brew, which was really soup, but yeah. our school doesn't really think throught relgious things before they say them. one of my best friends was a jehovah witness, and they never respected her rights. does ne one elses school do this?

I see no reason why you wouldn't want to know...in fact, you already should no why she thought he was Christian. People can tell! Like when God made Moses' face shine after being in His presence... God shows through us! Maybe the woman saw the joy your father had and, after recalling what another Christian she knew was like... put two and two together. If anything, this is something to praise God for!