I don't care if this is another gay thread, I need to get this through. This'll be one of my last times here, so enjoy.

- Gay people aren't mass murderers. You can point out the example of Ted Bundy being a gay serial killer, but there's a word for it: sadist. And sociopath.
- Plastic surgery shows give more damage to children's minds than homosexuality. Gay people aren't shoving their sexuality on everyone.
- Gay people don't like (sexually) children. There's a term for people who like children: pedophiles. And even that may be ruled out as normal by the American Psychiatric Association.
- If you're going to justify the thinking "homosexuality is evil" because of the Bible, and then claim that you must believe in EVERYTHING in the Bible to be a "true Christian", be ready to justify rape and incest.
- There is no damage to society in gay marriage. Absolutely none. You won't get cancer, you won't die. Smoking, McDonald's, alcohol, and many prescription drugs are much more dangerous than homosexual marriage. But lord knows you need to be puffin' with the vodka while high on Valium after eating a lard-infested artery-clogging Big Mac.
- The excuse that morals will magically die if homosexuality is allowed is bull. That's what people in the Middle Ages thought if witches weren't burned, just about a century ago with the whole interracial marriage deal, and with women working. I am still waiting for Hell to crack open the earth and Satan to make all the volcanoes explode while pouring acid rain upons us.
- Straight people can have AIDS too. The HIV virus doesn't go "Well, damn, he's never been with a guy! Let's not give him AIDS!", NO. It doesn't discriminate against anyone.
- Only a true masochist will choose to be a homosexual in a narrow-minded returning-to-medieval-thinking society.
- What do you mean "should control your desires/urges/etc"? Being homosexual isn't a sexual desire alone, it has to do with emotions as well, therefore it shouldn't even be classified as a sexual desire. Yes, gay people have sexual desires that are gay too, but so do straight people. My point is you can't shun it off as only a desire when you can actually love that partner.
- There are gay Christians, and all the gay Christians I've met are better people than "normal" Christians because they don't have the "I go to church so you're all inferiour to me!" mentality.
- Gay people can be parents. Excellent parents. The only problem with gay people adopting children are the homophobes that will reject that child for years, but not the gay parents themselves.
- Homosexuality isn't a subculture. Goth and pro-ana are subcultures. I doubt you're all stupid enough to force me to explain this.

OK, I'm done. I'm getting some much needed sleep now that I've gotten this off my chest.

sorry to pull this post from the grave... i like to play God anyway

i just wanted to say thats the most coherant rant ive ever read. kudos

Who cares if they're homosexual or not? It;s got to be stopped, anyway. Forget the statistics and what we make of them; as long as we make them into something, we can see the danger in rising conflict between helpless children and adults.

No. The people in the Book of Mormon are also Jews. It's talking about the House of Israel. The House of Israel fouls up a few times in the Bible and the Book of Mormon.

Is that Anti-Semitic? Just curious..

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Originally posted by freedomordeath:
Considering that was against God's will in the first place, the real question is "Why hadn't God made a few more people?"

I've actually wondered myself. However, man is not men to know all things. As it says in the Book of Mormon (yes, I'm Mormon) The Jews were blinded by looking too far. (Not exact quote. I have my Book of Mormon in the next room, and I really don't feel like getting up. I'm lazy)

Considering that was against God's will in the first place, the real question is "Why hadn't God made a few more people?"

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Originally posted by yogore:

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It'd be over in less than a generation.

Not really, they would have all married their first cousins next. They'd all still be related.

No, that's not incest. Illegal, but not incest.

Besides, Cain married his niece, as I said before, thus their children could marry their cousins once removed, or assuming other sons and daughters of Adam and Eve did the same as Cain, second cousins, which is even legal in most states.

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Originally posted by freedomordeath:

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A little bit.

Way to play down the same thing. "Oh, it was only a little bit incest, God. Forgive me?"

What else were they supposed to do, may I ask?

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A little bit.

Way to play down the same thing. "Oh, it was only a little bit incest, God. Forgive me?"

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It'd be over in less than a generation.

Not really, they would have all married their first cousins next. They'd all still be related.

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Originally posted by Greenleaf771:
Didn't Adam and Eve's children have to inbreed? I have no earthly idea what you're responding to, Hub, but I'm just asking.

A little bit. However, think about it. It'd be over in less than a generation. Cain actually married his neice. Neccessity there. Sorry.

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How can you tell if an animal is gay?

How can you tell a person is gay? By studying their interactions with members of their sex.

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Didn't Adam and Eve's children have to inbreed?

Yea. That's always bothered me.

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Because there are homosexual animals in nature (i.e. my dog), then homosexuality is natural, just like nature.

How can you tell if an animal is gay?

Didn't Adam and Eve's children have to inbreed? I have no earthly idea what you're responding to, Hub, but I'm just asking.

Nature is natural. Because there are homosexual animals in nature (i.e. my dog), then homosexuality is natural, just like nature.

I'll justify the incest in the Bible that I can think of.

Incest I can think of:

Sarah was Abraham's niece. True. However, that was completely acceptable and common at that time. I don't think marriage of niece is wrong unless the law says it is.

Lot's Daughters: This was justified because they in the deepest of their hearts thought that they were the last three on the earth. Just them and their father. So, they thought it was desperate measures, and the need was there. Justified.

What'd I miss?

And just so you know...I can't find the rape (portrayed as good). If you could be so kind as to point it out to me.

Meh. Agreed.

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Yogore, this moron (i.e., the above statement) is not worth responding to.

Responding is the nature of debate and that's the main purpose of everyone being here.

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I do not think there should be gay marriages, gay civil unions, becasue I belive that homosexuality, is a pattern of behavior, not an idenity, and that behavior is rebelious against God.

Yogore, this moron (i.e., the above statement) is not worth responding to.

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that behavior is rebelious against God.

No, it has nothing to do with God.

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those that belive in God, and those that don't, wont be comming to an agreement anytime soon or ever.

plenty of people who believe in God have no problem with homosexuality.