Is there a difference between guys and girls? What is it? Why? Is a homosexual of one gender the equivalent of a heterosexual of the other?

Is the difference in the way guys and girls act a product of our environment or just nature?

althought certain steryotypes, such as the guy makes the first move, are unfounded, Male and female are quite different, mentally and physically. you can't just choose what sex you want to be. It's ridiculus.

about the driving thing, i think it's just society and the environment we live in. My friend told me that in health class they listed differences or beliefs about guys and girls, such as the guy always makes the first move, the girl has the children, etc. and then crossed off all the ones that are just based on what society has us believe. When they were done, the only things left were the biological/physical differences.

The funny thing to think about is how it all got started. In the stone age, men were usually the hunters and explorers of the family, while the women took care of the children and gathered fruit and nuts to eat. I guess that evolved into different "rules" for the sexes over time. But why?? Is it because women get pregnant? Because, going back to what I just said, that's purely biological.

Peace out,
~Cb526

P.S. norrow--I just worked out what you said. that's funny to think about, but my brain hurts now.

I think there are differences between men and women- otherwise how do you explain the way that when you are getting a lift with a couple, and they are both in the front, it is almost always the man who drives?
This is just something I noticed and I think it shows that there is some kind of difference in attitude… I do think that generally speaking girls deal with their emotions in slightly different ways to boys. I think boys are often more dominating but whether this is a result of history or genetics I'm not sure.

I'm against the majority of stereotypes though and looking at my friends I can hardly think of any that fulfill the stereotypes for 'boy' or 'girl'.

I don't think that being attracted to the same sex equates a person with the opposite sex by any means.

I love list questions. Lets see now. #1 yes there is a difference between guys and girls! #2 what is it? Well for a girl the answer is the stem fell off the apple, for a guy the stem stayed on the apple. #3 why? Well because some people adhere to the glue better than others. #4 if your gay on one side are you straight on the other? Well that is a big NO! If you are gay your gay not straight on one side and gay on the other. #5 our environment and nature go hand and hand they are both basically the same thing.

Just remember - every generalization, and I mean every generalization has an exception.

Tee hee! (Get it?)

Just a couple weeks ago I had a (really fun) birthday party with both guys and girls (I'm a girl). We had to give some people a ride. So, for about thirty five minutes (that was only one way) there were four boys in the back seat and me, my (girl) friend, and my mom in the front seat.

Anyways, on the way there it was absolutely hilarious listening to the boys talking in the back! They were exactly like girls! Sure, they didn't talk about clothes and make-up and all that junk, but they talked about the same type of stuff that me and my friends talk about.

So, I have deduced (vocab word! ) that other than appearances, guys and girls are the same. I mean I can have a conversation with guys just as easily as I can have a conversation with girls. We talk about the same sorts of things too (although I guess I am pretty tomboyish-interesting conversations to me usually start something like "Did you see the Mariners game last night?" or "How'd your soccer team do last Saturday?", but anyways).

Well, that's just what I think. Okay I'll stop jabbering now....

Robbi

We're all just piles of cells spinning aimlessly about.

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You can never really make generalities because there is always an exception.

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Or maybe you can make generalizations for the purpose of the advancement of social understanding, knowing that there will always be exceptions.


Love, Jenny

You can never really make generalities because there is always an exception. For example, I know a lot of boys who are really good at english and history and girls who are top of the class in math and science.

By the way, how do those stereotypes start? It seems like throughout history, women were usually submissive to men. Why is that? It seems odd that before any stereotypes existed at all, the genders were considered so different. It was always the man that did the hunting and the woman that took care of the children. Is that because women are the ones that give birth?

Just wondering...

Peace out,
~Cb526

I know my dad pretty well and whatever connotations there are with using the word 'fanciful' I don't think they were that girls are airheads because he doesn't think that. I think it's probably closer to 'imaginative' in the context he meant it. We tend to run through lots of different scenarios in our heads of what could happen depending on different things.

Seeing as we're on the subject of what-my-dad-said, he also said teenage boys don't know what they feel (although he was being kind of jokey about that) and don't get subtle signals so if you want to get their attention you should just ask them out (which was what I was asking his advice on) so if anything he's saying boys are less perceptive and more confused than girls! I assume that being male himself he's allowed to say that?

There are differences between boys and girls other than physical. What I hate is not so much noticing the real differences as blindly reinforcing those stereotypes which have little basis in truth.

Bex

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Bex, calling girls "fanciful" is pretty much the equivalent of calling them all airheads.

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While I'm not sure that "fanciful" was the best word, I don't really think fanciful is anywhere near airheaded.


I liked the rest of your post though.

Bex, calling girls "fanciful" is pretty much the equivalent of calling them all airheads. I don't even know what taking a "fanciful" approach to something would involve and I don't know what you are trying to say, but the connotations are bad which I don't think was your intent.

As for this topic overall, there are actually proven biological differences in the sizes of particular parts of the brain between men and women. And of particular interest to scientists who are trying to prove that homosexuality is biological and not environmental or a "choice" (which I think seems obvious by now) there is one particular part of the brain (I'm blanking on the name and function right now but I can look it up later) that is typically a smaller in women (though certainly no less functional!!) than men. What is interesting about this, is that in autopsies of homosexual men, this part of the brain is usually much closer in size to that of a typical woman than that of a typical man.

There are actually a number of differences (aside from simply hormones and how we are socialized) in how the brain works, how different genders store and use sensory information, and how we react in certain situations. There is so much more that goes on in human development than we know, so many variables and chemicals and hormones involved pre-natally...the biological differences are exponentially so much more complex than Bubblycrystal's feeble assertion that the only difference is a penis. You should read up on it if you're interested. The science of it is truly fascinating, and I don't even like science!

i saw this one show where they observed how little boys and girls play arcade games.

boys, run up to the game and start pounding away at the buttons and attacking the machine right away.

girls, hung back and collected information about the game, watching intently.

i have no idea what this says but it probably means something.

According to my dad, boys approach things in a mathematical manner (as in if I do this+this either this or this will occur), whereas girls are more fanciful (as in what if I did this or this and I wonder if... but no maybe if I changed this something else might...). We were discussing the way they approach crushes at the time but I think it applies fairly widely in other areas too. While I think there are general differences other than in a physical sense, there are exceptions to every rule and some of the stereotypes are ridiculous. On the whole boys and girls are much more similar than different. I don't hold with this men are from mars women are from venus cr*p, and certainly not with what men or women should do (for example I don't get the taboo about being a male ballet dancer at all. They're incredibly strong and they get to spend most of their time in the company of beautiful women)

I was reading some synopsis for a book I believe and the guy was saying to his girl-friend that "guy" and "girl" are just labels, that they're like boxes. Both genders have sterotypes like that guys should be good at sports and should be tall and muscular. Yes, cliched as it is it still exists like when a guy wishes to take dance class or be a stay @ home dad. There will still be those who think he should stay inside his box that was predetermined at birth.

*~~Shayna~~*

Males have a penis. Females do not. Honestly, I think the only real difference between the sexes is biological. Many women love to blame men for their problems and vice versa. But I guarantee that you can find a female/male equivalent for practically any person.

I did a search for Dante's topic, it's actually "Coed Lockerrooms". Like I said, it's pretty old though.
Here's the addy for it:
http://boards.youthnoise.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=742299645&f=455299255&m=1554068991#2224003402

It is four pages long, fyi, but a good read nonetheless.

Dante had a topic on this?? well ive been off youthnoise for like months so i dont know. There are like 10 topics in very subject!