Please explain to me exactly how it is that gay marriage would ruin the "American Family". I think with all the domestic abuse, 50% divorce rate, and all the other ways heterosexuals have messed up marriage, what's the worst that could happen? I don't see what the big deal is.

Hey all religious people, do you realize how unproductive it is to use religion as an arguement? I'm not Christian so I completely ignore anyone who tries to use the Bible as a point of reference.

Let me explain this in a way some of you might understand. Let's say I follow the religion of Ancient Egypt. I say to you "Oh gays should have equal rights because of what the teachings and the word of the Gods in the Book of the Dead say." Would any of you listen to me? NO. You do not follow this religion, it does not affect you or you're belief system so why should I listen to you and you're religious "proof."

So until you find real hard evidence that is KNOWN to be true (ie proven by science) like statistics, I'm going to blatantly ignore you. Oh and it makes me laugh when people say gays aren't natural. LOOK AROUND YOU. WOULD ANY OF THESE THINGS BE FOUND IN NATURE?

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Originally posted by audreee:
well.. coz us girls are running out of hot guys!! they all want men now! haha

Do you realize just how ignorant you sound? People don't "turn gay" and they certainly don't "turn gay" because they've never been with a "real woman" or "real man".

well.. coz us girls are running out of hot guys!! they all want men now! haha

When God made the earth he made a man and a woman to love each other in marriage now there are so many divorces that marriage was'nt what it was so i Think that we as people can accept change.

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Originally posted by DropDeadGabby:
I don't want to get religion involved with this.
but God created people to love the opposite sex.
I think gay right are very absurd.
I don't want to get on anyone's bad side but a lot of problems have been created in this world just because of

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GAY RIGHTS.

Marriage is not was it was.
and it probably will never be what it was.
Marriage was for the love of a man and a woman.
not two gay guys who enjoy each other very much.
or two gay women.
I wish people in society would see this.

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I don't want to get on anyone's bad side but a lot of problems have been created in this world just because of
GAY RIGHTS.

No, she's right.

Gay rights HAVE caused a lot of problems...so have civil rights, womens' rights, etc. Do their problem causing nature mean that they are ultimately wrong? Not necessarily.



TBPrincess: Before you start applying the Constitution to your argument, KNOW the Constitution. Sure there is the 14th amendment guarantees equal protection under the laws...but we also have the first amendment which contains the establishment and free exercise clauses. (Which has been interpreted as the "separation of church and state.") Both need to be weighted in any Constitutional interpretation. Plus there is the struggle between the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and the idea of Full Faith and Credit...there's a heck of a lot more to consider than one simple phrase in our entire nation's history.


Just some thoughts...

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I don't want to get on anyone's bad side but a lot of problems have been created in this world just because of
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GAY RIGHTS.

Marriage is not was it was.
and it probably will never be what it was.
Marriage was for the love of a man and a woman.
not two gay guys who enjoy each other very much.
or two gay women.
I wish people in society would see this.

There are sooo many things to rebut in this one post, I don't even know where to begin... How about that first sentence? "a lot of problems have been created...because of GAY RIGHTS" You know what else has caused a lot MORE problems in this world? Religion, especially Christianity, the Crusades for example, or how about the extremists (of all religions) who blow up buildings participate in terrorist groups, etc. etc.? So using your logic, if something causes "problems" then we should make it harder/deprive rights/illegalize those types of actions, therefore, religion causes problems, so relgion should be illegal--no more God.

Then you go on to blame all gay people for the ruin marriage is in right now. Hmmm, last I checked, gays have been around for about as long as...marriage, at the very least. So when marriage was "good" was that the because of gays too? And while marriage is defined as between one man and one woman; it's clearly becoming out dated, like racism and sexism.

Now here's a new idea: why don't we base our laws off our constitution? The 14th amendment says that all rights must be apllied to all people equally, and while marriage technically isn't a right, there are tax right offs, visitation rights, hospital rights, adoption is easier, etc. etc. so what makes it okay to ignore the constitution here? It's unconstituional to not allow gay people to marry, or to at the very least give them these same rights.

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Originally posted by Shade:

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but God created people to love the opposite sex.

I know what and how God thinks, too.

So does that crazy dude on the street corner who warns us every time we pass him of the impending apocalypse. Aren't you so glad we all have the ability to rove the inner-workings of the mind of deities?

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but God created people to love the opposite sex.

I know what and how God thinks, too.

You said that you didn't want to bring religion into this, but as soon as you finished that sintance, the next words you typed were: "But God...."

Let me set this straight for you:

"Rights" are not a religious matter. They are of a Governmental matter. And the law clearly states that Church and Government should be seperate. Denial of a person's rights not only go against American law, but also the free will that your God so graciously gave to all man kind.

And, I don't understand your clear unwillingness to use the word "love" when referring to a union of two homosexuals. This implies that you don't believe that love (true, pure, unconditional love) can exsist between two people of the same sex, and to me, this just demonstrates your ignorance to the world around you.

I don't want to get religion involved with this.
but God created people to love the opposite sex.
I think gay right are very absurd.
I don't want to get on anyone's bad side but a lot of problems have been created in this world just because of

quote:

GAY RIGHTS.

Marriage is not was it was.
and it probably will never be what it was.
Marriage was for the love of a man and a woman.
not two gay guys who enjoy each other very much.
or two gay women.
I wish people in society would see this.