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Picture of Ikki14Reed
Registered: August 17, 2001
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And I know that at least Cathalisism is, or was the last time my book was updated, the top religion in the world.


Can I have a (reputable) source that 'Catholicism' is the top religion in the world?

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They are messed up


In your Opinion.

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GSA suckcs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Have you ever BEEN to a GSA meeting?


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Registered: July 30, 2004
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Christine, what a load of crap. You basically contradicted yourself here:

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You can control your thoughts, at least to a certain extent, so you can control the way you look at people


Maybe you should do a little research, hon. Homosexuality isn't a choice, and it is NOT easy to get rid of. You know how bad it feels when you're rejected? I bet there are a lot more straight guys around you for you to pick from than there are gay girls around me. Sometimes I wish I wasn't a lesbian, but you know what? I still am. I can't get rid of it.


Just remember I'm human, too.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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GSA suckcs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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I think that it is just wrong to be gay. You can control your thoughts, at least to a certain extent, so you can control the way you look at people. Besides, the way that the world is currently, a good portion of the world is Christian. Cathollics, Mormons, The Church of Christ, they are all Christian! And I know that at least Cathalisism is, or was the last time my book was updated, the top religion in the world. My school may have a lot of gays and lesbians, but I don't care. They are messed up and they don't understand that if you cannot control your feelings, you shouldn't be married at all. There is a greater chance of you cheating if you can't.
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Registered: July 26, 2004
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yay, i'm proud. for the most part we aren't anti-gay...for now, they make fun of you, shows their own security..you know what? wear MORE of those gay and proud shirts!...bug them even more, they're just trying to bash you down, and as soon as they know that you can't be put down with that...then they'll stop..most o' the time!

-the one whom still hasnt gained respectfrom other yn'ers yet is still speaking intellegently...ahh, bella123 has spoken-


Evitere Les Contrefacons.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Maybe you can't change you are Homophobic just as much as you can't change you are gay; nevertheless, I think it is also a very personal thing, you can embrace being gay or you can deny it and try to change (which will be probably useless). Same thing with Homophobia, maybe you can try to adapt to live with gay people but you are afraid of them (because you may think they can "gay you up", which is of course totally ridiculous). Something we do have to fight is ignorance, like the school girl who said that HIV is a disease that only gays had. For one I dont't like the idea of being around gay people, Its not like I hate them, but I cannot be around them and feel ok.
By the way I wanted to ask why is the gay populus growing that fast?


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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You don't have to live a gay life, you can come out of it.


I answer with a quote from The American Psychology Association

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What About So-Called "Conversion Therapies"?

Some therapists who undertake so-called conversion therapy report that they have been able to change their clients' sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Close scrutiny of these reports however show several factors that cast doubt on their claims. For example, many of the claims come from organizations with an ideological perspective which condemns homosexuality. Furthermore, their claims are poorly documented. For example, treatment outcome is not followed and reported overtime as would be the standard to test the validity of any mental health intervention.

The American Psychological Association is concerned about such therapies and their potential harm to patients. In 1997, the Association's Council of Representatives passed a resolution reaffirming psychology's opposition to homophobia in treatment and spelling out a client's right to unbiased treatment and self-determination. Any person who enters into therapy to deal with issues of sexual orientation has a right to expect that such therapy would take place in a professionally neutral environment absent of any social bias.



This is a reputable source. Don't throw your Bible at me. If you have no other way to defend your point besides the Bible, then do us a favor and turn off your computer.

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being gay is a choice.

Prove it.
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Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?

No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.


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I'm not trying to preach to you and or beat you over the head, but it's the truth

You have no proof. You can only justify what you say by the Bible which will not hold through between people of different religions. And you sound like you're trying to preach.

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I hope that you will at least think about what I've said


Yes, I thought about it... and the fact that you don't have any sources.


"You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore
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Registered: September 02, 2003
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What that girl said in your English class was wrong and everything she said is untrue except one thing. Being gay is a sin. A being gay is a choice. I know that you most likely don't want to hear this, but I've got to say it so I hope that you still are listening. Just hear me out. Im a Christian so I believe that we are all made in God's image. Because the fall of Adam and Eve in the garden there is sin for all man kind. Yes I truly believe that some people are born gay, but they where not made gay. If something isn't woven into the fabric of your soul, if it wasn't made in you it can be change. You don't have to live a gay life, you can come out of it. I'm not trying to preach to you and or beat you over the head, but it's the truth so I hope that you will at least think about what I've said. God Bless


Kindness is a voice that the deaf can hear. -Blessings
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Registered: November 07, 2004
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This is my answer to the "homophobia" Im a christian and I will say that I dont agree with being homosexual...ur not "born" that way u choose it...the bible says homosexuality is an abomination. I dont believe though thats its right to hackle a homosexual there a person just as much as I am...they just dont make the same choices that I choose to...The HIV and AIDS thing I look at it like this a homosexual person has just as much a risk as a any other sexually active person...fornication i believe is also wrong! so this is what I believe choose God first cus he's first n my life I make my decisions according to him and his word! GOD bless~ Meredith Smile
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Registered: February 28, 2003
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I'm so sorry that you have that in your school. You're a strong person to put up with that kind of stuff. The people in my school are, for the most part tolerant. We occasionally get the person with conservative views on stuff like that, but mostly it's an accepting environment...which is kind of weird to say about a public high school. Maybe it's just that they get bad reps, but city schools are really good about acceptance.

Lanna


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Registered: July 26, 2004
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they hate gay people...so in other words, they hate anyone who is different of them because they can't handle it. exactly Linkin, to each his own and hats off to you for not caring what people say...i mean, it's like the ganstas or the preps...they all get a bad rap, it's just about how you handle it. good job!


Evitere Les Contrefacons.
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Registered: February 19, 2004
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Originally posted by WJ:
well if they dont like being harrased they can keep it to themselves i mean no one needs to know!

If that’s the case, then heterosexuals should keep their sexuality to themselves. And people of other races should keep that to themselves, too, shouldn't they. After-all, no one needs to know that you're Caucasian do they? Of course not.

Come on, the argument that "no one needs to know" is pathetic. Hiding who you are is severely bad for your health. And, just to state the obvious, people have a right and a freedom to express who they are.

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If you really want to spend the rest of your life with your partner, then just go and live together, not go up in the church and pronounce to the whole world you are married because its just really weird and wrong coz it defies the whole sacrament of marriage.

What about the whole "no sex before marriage" thing? Heterosexual couples are generally discouraged from living together before they get married because all of the religious people are afraid that they will have sex. Homosexual couples aren't mindless sex machines like some people tend to think. They love just like heterosexual people do, and its about time homophobics recognized that.

As for the "Its just really weird" thing, that is a hilarious argument. Know what else is weird? Christmas trees. I mean, who kills a tree and then drags it into their house, decorates it with plastic and glass, then after a few days or weeks, takes all of the little glass and plastic things off and drags the tree outside again to burn it or throw it away.
Maybe you like Christmas trees. I don't. I think they're weird. They should be illegal.
Your logic in action, hunnie.

And the "sacrament of Marriage" dealie-o is lame, too. Look at divorce rates, look at the number of people cheating on their spouses. Now tell me why allowing two people in love would defy the "sacrament of marriage."


"Thou call'dst me dog before thou hadst a cause; But, since I am a dog, beware my fangs." -Shakespeare [The Merchant of Venice, Act 3 Scene 3]
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Registered: October 08, 2004
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Where I live, gays and lesbians are, I guess, more "accepted" than what you've guys have said about gays in your areas (though, truly, there is no extent to being "accepted"). CA is so liberal, but there are many people who uphold the belief religious Christian belief that marriage is only btw a man and a woman. Even so, gays and lesbians are afraid to come out because in reality, no one wants to get discriminated for their sexuality.
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Registered: September 22, 2004
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Yeah living together is different than marriage. Some people actually want the title.


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If you really want to spend the rest of your life with your partner, then just go and live together, not go up in the church and pronounce to the whole world you are married because its just really weird and wrong coz it defies the whole sacrament of marriage.


Living together does not give gay couples the same rights that are given to legally married couples.

And don't pull the "sacrement of marriage" if you say marriage is this sacred, religious thing I don't know what to say. Obviosly you don't pay attention to the fact that you do't have to be religious to get married. If Universal Unitarians (because they don't follow the Bible) can get married, why not gay people?

Marriages don't have to take place in a church either. They can happen at city hall. You don't have to be religious to get married. If you can break other rules of the bible and get married, how come this one is the only one people look at?

It amazes me how many people try and ignore separation of church and state.

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gay marriage should be banned because its just wrong.


That is one of the most pathetic arguments that I hear. Who are you to judge on the lives of other people? You have no right to. And the Bible even says that, so as a Christian you are breaking one of your rules. Let God judge, and if he isn't happy about it, how does it affect you? S/He wouldn't blame you for not doing anything, because he tells you not to judge, and obviously you are judging now. I suggest before trying to bring religion into this, look at how the Bible contradicts itself and then realize you can't make others follow your relgious rules.


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Registered: August 15, 2004
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i do have to say, gay marriage should be banned because it defies the true meaning of the sacrament of marriage. Its says: only one man and one woman, not the same sex.


Could you people stop being ignorant and leave religion out of this. Not everyone is Christian. Actually to put it bluntly there are a good bit of Christian homosexuals. OMG where has the logic of the world gone? The "sacrament of marriage" is a load of bull-excrement. Tell me something. The church marries black and white heterosexual couples. I know this is getting a bit cliche but do you think they would have done that back in the time of slavery or segregation or even for several years after that? And for some reason it was eventually deemed acceptable. Time will reveal the error of your ways my friend. And for your discrimination I am sure your God will be utterly displeased if he truly is the all-loving God the Christians claim him to be.


In my lifetime I have been to bed with men, women, and odd pieces of furniture....Oh and my avatar says "The only abnormality is the inability to LOVE!"
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Registered: August 15, 2004
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Court first off I am so proud of you for being proud of who you are and knowing who you are. The majority of adults aren't even to that point in their lives yet. Second off I'll respond to your post. I live in Plant City (is there a more hick sounding town than that?). I would say there are a fair amount of homosexuals in my High School. However there are only three or four that are out of the closet including me. If you read my othere posts in the homophobia hurts us all etc posts then you already read my story but the kind of stuff you have to deal with if you are gay in my school is people yelling f.u.c.k.i.n.g f.a.g.g.o.t at you as you walk through the halls. People sometimes throw rocks and trash at you. People try to pick fights with you. People shove you and do everything in their power to make your life a living hell. And at our school there is nothing you can do about it. Nothing. Especially since our principal has a Bush like attitude towards gay rights. Thankfully he is being replaced however I am not sure if his replacement will be any better. So I would say there is a fair amount of ****-hatred at my school. But at the same time there is a lot of support if you know where to look.

Ciao


In my lifetime I have been to bed with men, women, and odd pieces of furniture....Oh and my avatar says "The only abnormality is the inability to LOVE!"
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Registered: November 06, 2004
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well first of all i must admit that i dont like ***** too.BUT i know that every man with a pure heart must be respected for his privacy.there is something called privacy and human rights so we cannot critisize or scorn people because of their thoughts or sexuality until they affect other people badly.thats what i think.by the way i am in university and i dont think that there are many ***** there but who knows? i respect every kind of personality and sexuality
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Registered: February 27, 2004
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I live in a pretty hick area myself. There are gays and then there are those that could accurately fit into the catogory of those who hate homosexuals. As me for me I am opposed to both ideas towards sexuality, and I have friends from both walks of life. I used to say gay as synoym for uncool, but I've since dropped that tendency of speech after hearing a sermon on homosexuailty by my pastor.


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Registered: June 28, 2003
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i dont have any problem with gays or lesbians. In fact i have lots of friends from highschool who were lesbians and now in college, there are a lot of gays. Also, i have no problem with gays or lesbians having relationships like lovers or something but i do have to say, gay marriage should be banned because it defies the true meaning of the sacrament of marriage. Its says: only one man and one woman, not the same sex.
If gays and lesbians want to get married, well, you could just get a girl if your gay and a boy if your lesbian but otherwise, this marriage thing called gay marriage should be banned because its just wrong. If you really want to spend the rest of your life with your partner, then just go and live together, not go up in the church and pronounce to the whole world you are married because its just really weird and wrong coz it defies the whole sacrament of marriage.
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