Yes, I swear, if anything does our existence in for good, it'll be ignorance and nonacceptance.

Homophobia at my school last year was horrible. And then I went to highschool, and it was just as bad...it just wasnt as obvious to who was gay and who wasnt...I had a friend at my school last year and she was a homosexual...and b4 she told me she always made fun of gay people...Prolly to see how I would react...she then told me and then after awhile told everyone else...until EVERYONE knew she was a lesbain...people stopped talking to her for it...she always told me that they were scared that they were gonna catch the "gay"...which is what that whole story was about...you cant catch the "gay", it upsets me at how ignorant some kids can be!

But the type of fear we were discussing was relatively specific, if you understand where I'm going. I'm not dense, I knew what you were getting at, yet the analogy itself lacked something. In order for it to be proper, however poetic you wish it could be, you must be one of the following: A. a mass of land OR B. a homosexual. But something tells me you are neither...

Oh well. I won't push the envelope.

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Bad analogy if you ask me, DWM.

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Wavemaster Says: Did it make its point?
Your question was answered. A PHOBIA is an inexplicable fear of something, no matter how great or small, how living or inatimate, or dead, how great in numbers or not. You are splitting too many hairs that you see not the point I was making. You can have an inexplicable fear of anything. Don't split hairs. Geez. (look at my avatar for the expression I wear right now)

THERE IS SOMETHING, FREE, YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT METAPHORS. I, my friend, am a poet. I speak in poetic terms. Sometimes, the words I speak are eloquent, sometimes not. A metaphor, Free, is a poetic element. To understand that the metaphor does indeed fit, you must jump into my mind.

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What he meant was that there could be alot of something yet people still hate/fear it

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At least there are some not too dense to figure me out.

But I do have a question for you, and a rather personal one, so I guess I will NOISEmail you instead of posting it.

But I still didn't comprehend the analogy. I suppose it was either too complex or too simple for me.

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Yogore, that would not make me hate gay people. Why would I? Just because other people might? Sheesh, I'm more intelligent and mature to know the balme should not be placed on the homosexual community, but rather the intolerant. So quite the reverse, yogore-I've made a lot of friends with open people and I sitll get a little flack for it, but I don't care as much, plus I now understand those type of people are just ignorant.

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Well, that's good. I know alot of people in similar situations tend to blame gay people because they are picked on which is why I asked.

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And I still believe it was a rather poor ananlogy. Comparing the land to the water on the surface of the earth is not equivalent to the number of homosexuals to the number of heterosexuals-not to mention I don't believe DWM is ocean/sea water. If he was, we wouldn't be discussing the imposing homosexuals-we'd be discussing land.

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What he meant was that there could be alot of something yet people still hate/fear it.

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Yogore, that would not make me hate gay people. Why would I? Just because other people might? Sheesh, I'm more intelligent and mature to know the balme should not be placed on the homosexual community, but rather the intolerant. So quite the reverse, yogore-I've made a lot of friends with open people and I sitll get a little flack for it, but I don't care as much, plus I now understand those type of people are just ignorant.

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And I still believe it was a rather poor ananlogy. Comparing the land to the water on the surface of the earth is not equivalent to the number of homosexuals to the number of heterosexuals-not to mention I don't believe DWM is ocean/sea water. If he was, we wouldn't be discussing the imposing homosexuals-we'd be discussing land.

And your question was?

And whether something is living or not doesn't matter in this analogy.

Yogore, you still haven't answered my question...

Bad analogy if you ask me, DWM. There is something wrong with your analogy in two ways. One, you are a living creature. You are afraid of a body of inanimate molecules, therefore, you are not comparing two living bodies. And secondly, you are not comparing land and water, and heterosexuals and homosexuals-which would be more appropriate. But still, we cannot judge two nonliving, nonexpressive things. My question was not answered.

Found on a PBS.org site:

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In 1948, pioneer sex researcher Alfred Kinsey published a book, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, which reported a number of findings that surprised the nation, and became the focus of controversy for decades. Homosexual behavior was not restricted to people who identified themselves as homosexuals, Kinsey found. And when you added this group to the group who reported exclusively homosexual experiences, Kinsey concluded that 10% of the population was homosexual. What's more, Kinsey conceived heterosexuality and homosexuality as opposite ends of continuum of sexual orientations; then, to the surprise, dismay, or outrage of many, he added five different hybrid sexualities in between these two poles to form his seven-point sexuality scale. Since Kinsey's time, dozens of other researchers have conducted their own studies and developed their own sexuality scales, for the most part revising downward Kinsey's initial numbers.

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That was not even considering bisexuality, which biased sources say about 10-25% of the world is bisexual, not gay or straight. And someone posted this somewhere else, but for those people who don't know, there are different types of sexuality (especially bisexuality). Here they are:

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As you can see, there is no simple definition of bisexuality, and bisexual people are a very diverse group. There are several theories about different models of bisexual behavior. J. R. Little identifies at least 13 types of bisexuality, as defined by sexual desires and experiences. They are:

Alternating bisexuals:
may have a relationship with a man, and then after that relationship ends, may choose a female partner for a subsequent relationship, and many go back to a male partner next.
Circumstantial bisexuals:
primarily heterosexual, but will choose same sex partners only in situations where they have no access to other-sex partners, such as when in jail, in the military, or in a gender-segregated school.
Concurrent relationship bisexuals:
have primary relationship with one gender only but have other casual or secondary relationships with people of another gender at the same time.
Conditional bisexuals:
either straight or gay/lesbian, but will switch to a relationship with another gender for financial or career gain or for a specific purpose, such as young straight males who become gay prostitutes or lesbians who get married to men in order to gain acceptance from family members or to have children.
Emotional bisexuals:
have intimate emotional relationships with both men and women, but only have sexual relationships with one gender.
Integrated bisexuals:
have more than one primary relationship at the same time, one with a man and one with a woman.
Exploratory bisexuals:
either straight or gay/lesbian, but have sex with another gender just to satisfy curiosity or "see what it's like."
Hedonistic bisexuals:
primarily straight or gay/lesbian but will sometimes have sex with another gender primarily for fun or purely sexual satisfaction.
Recreational bisexuals:
primarily heterosexual but engage in gay or lesbian sex only when under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
Isolated bisexuals:
100% straight or gay/lesbian now but has had at one or more sexual experience with another gender in the past.
Latent bisexuals:
completely straight or gay lesbian in behavior but have strong desire for sex with another gender, but have never acted on it.
Motivational bisexuals:
straight women who have sex with other women only because a male partner insists on it to titillate him.
Transitional bisexuals:
temporarily identify as bisexual while in the process of moving from being straight to being gay or lesbian, or going from being gay or lesbian to being heterosexual.
Many of these people might not call themselves bisexual, but because they are attracted to and have relationships with both men and women, they are in fact bisexual.

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Oh, and to find out how homophobic you are, visit this site and take the quiz:

How homophobic are you?


Sorry this took up so much space.

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Saying that being gay is a sin is not hating gay people. Saying gay people get AIDS is not hating gay people. Thinking that being gay is gross is not hating gay people. I think you are all "Conservophobes."

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Looking in lust upon another person is sin too, regardless of sex or gender; I don't see you, BS, trying to condemn them. I think that being gay is gross, and no one yells at me for it; I think it's all in the way you say things. And no, we just don't agree with what you're saying and how you say it. BS, are you looking for someone to hate you or something?

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When 90% of the world's population if heterosexual, and it is nearly impossible to escape the heterosexuality that is so rife in American society (media, in public, and more) - how can one be a heterophobe?

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Do you have proof that the world is nintey percent straight? But come, most of the world is covered with water, but I'm terrified of it. Free, consider it answered.

I would just like to bring something to attention. When 90% of the world's population if heterosexual, and it is nearly impossible to escape the heterosexuality that is so rife in American society (media, in public, and more) - how can one be a heterophobe?

I would really like to see that one answered.

i know that i'm living in my own fantasy world, but why do people hate/fear the unknown/different things around them? wouldnt it be great if everyone could just get along? unfortunately, things dont go that way....

my life, live

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Saying that being gay is a sin is not hating gay people.

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Yes it is. When you say that someone is sinful, you're implying that they are going to a place of eternal pain and hellfire. That not a nice thing to say.

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Thinking that being gay is gross is not hating gay people.

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Yes, but telling them that is just plain mean.

I think you should mind your own business if being gay bothers you so much.

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That is an idiotic analogy.

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It wasn't that bad of an analogy. It got the point across.

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I think that you are a heterophobe

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I'm not a heterophobe. I have a straight friend, I can't be (hey if the argument works for you, why not for me?).

But I am not a heterophobe. I just don't like or put up with intolerance. Whether it be about homosexuality or race it doesn't matter.

Main Entry: -phobia
Function: noun combining form
Etymology: New Latin, from Late Latin, from Greek, from -phobos fearing, from phobos fear, flight, from phebesthai to flee; akin to Lithuanian begti to flee, Old Church Slavonic bezati
1 : exaggerated fear of <acrophobia>
2 : intolerance or aversion for <photophobia>

The defintion speaks for itself.

And by the way, you are already showing your intolerance by the mere sentence of "They can do what they want in their own home."
You don't want to see it yourself, do you?

No. Phobia means an irrational fear of something. I am not "fearful" of gays. I really don't even care that they are gay. They can do what they want in their own home.

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Straight people get AIDs too. You have to love how people forget that.

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I think that you are a heterophobe. No I don't that would be ridiculous. You are stating a fact. the "tolerance" movement wants to revise fact.

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It's the same thing as saying "Black people are ghetto". Or "Hispanics are stupid". It's a form of hate. At the least, intolerance.

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No. Saying "gay people are stupid" would be like saying "hispanics are stupid." That is an idiotic analogy.

And I always remember the things I forget to mention when somebody else says it... Thanks yogore. Good point.

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Saying gay people get AIDS is not hating gay people.

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Straight people get AIDs too. You have to love how people forget that.

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Saying that being gay is a sin is not hating gay people. Saying gay people get AIDS is not hating gay people. Thinking that being gay is gross is not hating gay people. I think you are all "Conservophobes."

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It's the same thing as saying "Black people are ghetto". Or "Hispanics are stupid". It's a form of hate. At the least, intolerance.