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Registered: October 06, 2004
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Originally posted by DramaMillie:
Yah, God did tell me that homosexuality is wrong, not personaly like you seem to believe he spoke to you, but he told me in the Bible.
OK, how do you know, that in the middle of the 14th century, some homophobic monk didn't just put that in the bible? Do you think that books that are hand written are not adulturated? I am sorry, but even if the Bible was origionally written by god, it has changed since then.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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You can't be gay and Christian!!!!!!!
Again, that is your OPINION. You are not GOD. You do not know what he thinks for sure. You have faith that you do, but you can NEVER be sure. Right now, you can live your life anyway you please, and give ADVICE to people about how to make their lives better, but if they don't listen, or don't agree, then stop giving them advice unless they ask, and DON'T FORCE YOUR LIFE/IDEAS on other people. Got that? Good.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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Drama, do you not reads the other homosexuality threads? We've discussed how the bible is pot a reliable source. What if women were still treated the way they were talked aout in the bible? I'm not going to get back intoit though. not now. Go find other threaqds on Abortion or homosexuality adn you will find the reasons why the bible can't be used as a source. quote:
You can not be a christian and still be living a life against what is taught in the bible. I gaurantee that anybody who is a trye christian is doing everything they can to stick to what the bible says because we want to be like jesus. So if a gay person wants to be a true christian he can't be going against what the bible says.
Well everyone goes agaiinst the Bible somehow. From eating pig to cutting your sideburns. "You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore |
Registered: February 20, 2004
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Hey, it's been awhile. I'd like to say that I felt an extreme need to post here for a couple reason, 1. the "christians on here are being bigots and idiots and really stupid. (i'm a christian myself but this is ridiculous) 2. You can not be a christian and still be living a life against what is taught in the bible. I gaurantee that anybody who is a trye christian is doing everything they can to stick to what the bible says because we want to be like jesus. So if a gay person wants to be a true christian he can't be going against what the bible says. About whoever is saying "being gay is wrong" SO is being a liar, an adulter or a thief but certainly you've never done any of those. Or maybe Idolatry,ever put something above God in your life? Exactly so shut up. You aren't helping these ppl so leave it alone.
ROCK SOLID!
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Registered: November 09, 2004
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Yah, God did tell me that homosexuality is wrong, not personaly like you seem to believe he spoke to you, but he told me in the Bible.
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Registered: November 09, 2004
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Oh my gosh people! You can't be gay and Christian!!!!!!! God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Evan or Amanda and Eve! Are any of you true Christians...not just people that claim that your Christians. I'm not going to judge any of you, if you say that you are Christians, you know truly in your heart that you are Christians.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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I found that it is in the mind. This is why I am not for gay marriage. Being gay is like being fat: Some say it is hereditary, but you can still change it.
Try to be gay, then. Talk to us after having sex with a guy, and we will talk about "changing sexuallity."
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Believing that God sent his one and only Son to die for his people, that is what makes you a true Christian.
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And gays can have the capacity to do that.
Took the words right out of my mouth, EG.
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Believing that God sent his one and only Son to die for his people, that is what makes you a true Christian.
And gays can have the capacity to do that.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Did he tell you homosexuality is wrong? No.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: November 09, 2004
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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
Acutually, God told _me_ being gay is not a choice and we should accept them.
God told you? God spoke to you?...yah right |
Registered: November 09, 2004
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Just because you might go to church, pray everyday, and expressed love for God, doesn't make you a Christian. Believing that God sent his one and only Son to die for his people, that is what makes you a true Christian.
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Fact: quote:
[Even though gay teens amount to less than ten percent of the teen-age population,] one-third of all teenage suicides are gays and lesbians.
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/aint/309.htm
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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No, I said that you can't be gay and a true Christian, it's not an opinion, it's a true fact, if you ask any educated Christian, they'd say the same.
Well if I were gay and I said I was Christian and I went to church everyday and I prayed everyday and I expressed my love for God everyday, I'd be a Christian. There are murderers out there that call themselves christian and they are. Plus, I'd also like to point out that educated christians wouldn't believe gays choose their sexual orientation because it's been scientifically proven that it's impossible and most well educated people who know that it's a proven fact, know it must be true. quote:
The success rate of these therapies in actually changing clients' sexual orientation appears to have been between 0% and something less than 0.1%.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_fixe.htmquote:
How could a thinking human being in the 21st freaking century still believe that homosexuals choose to be gay? Homosexuals didn’t choose to be gay any more than the president chose to be an idiot. I can see not knowing if it’s genetic, or upbringing, or a combination of both that makes a person queer. But to believe that homosexuals just one day up and decided to go gay is a sure sign that you are some kind of idiot turd.
“Hey, Pat, I’ll think I’ll go gay today.”
“Really, Jim, why’s that?”
“There’s just something about the gay lifestyle that really attracts me. You know, rejection, estrangement, incessantly pounding techno music, loneliness, despair—it’s like a dream life.”
http://www.sdcitybeat.com/article.php?id=2531Anyway, the only opinion that matters is that of the homosexual. The ones who know exactly what it's like to be gay, not the the straight christains. So, everyone who is gay/bisexual/transexual/transgender give us the answer: Did you choose your sexual orientation? In fact, I encourage everyone to ask their gay friends and post their answers. Hopefully, this will end the discussion.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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it's a true fact
Proof? And REAL proof, not what people say. Oh, and the proof has to be from a reputable source. quote:
being gay is wrong
Opinion.
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Registered: November 09, 2004
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No, I said that you can't be gay and a true Christian, it's not an opinion, it's a true fact, if you ask any educated Christian, they'd say the same.
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Registered: November 09, 2004
Posts: 29
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I agrre with you, being gay is wrong
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Registered: July 30, 2004
Posts: 203
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Celtic, yogore, you guys are awesome...
Just remember I'm human, too.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
Posts: 9213
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Being gay is like being fat: Some say it is hereditary, but you can still change it.
That's your opinion, an uneducated one, but still an opinion. Why not prove it with facts. As I keep quoting, from the APA: quote:
What Causes a Person To Have a Particular Sexual Orientation?
There are numerous theories about the origins of a person's sexual orientation; most scientists today agree that sexual orientation is most likely the result of a complex interaction of environmental, cognitive and biological factors. In most people, sexual orientation is shaped at an early age. There is also considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality. In summary, it is important to recognize that there are probably many reasons for a person's sexual orientation and the reasons may be different for different people.
Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?
No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.
"You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore |
Registered: December 11, 2003
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Acutually, God told me being gay is not a choice and we should accept them.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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