Ah, funny how even my memory shortens.


People keep referring to Hitler as a fascist, as far, far, far-right-wing.

Well guess what?

He wasn't a facist dictator (Mussolini was, though) as the little liberal creeps keep saying he is.


His Nazi Party was commonly referred to as the National Socialist Party, so anytime you hear of some Socialist/Communist (dang near the same thing) b*tch and complain about Hitler being an extreme right-wing dictator, tell them to shut up.

It just goes to prove that history is on the side of capitalists. Don't get me wrong, what Hitler did was atrocious, but it's only fair that we correctly label him and his government policies as what they are and were: Socialist/Communist.

The Soviet Union was not a socialist government. It was a communist government. Although the two are similiar, they are different in the fact that Communism is when a small amount of people get to decide who elads,and socialism is when a large amount of people are allowed to decide who leads...

Nazi Germany was the only socialist state ran by corporations that killed millions of minorities--Jews, gays, gypsies, and the handicapped--, suppressed it unions, allied itself with Mussolini, and declared war on Communist Russia.

I don't where you guys are getting these wing-nut revisionisms on history. Fox News? They're doing history now?

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

It's true, Hitler was a Socialist. But Mussolini was to. In fact in the early years he was member of a socialist party in Italy. But he was more like a self proclaiming socialist. His view of socialism was hierarchical, nationalist, militarized and anti-communist combined with strict censorship and state propaganda. He also had a new third-way economic view. You know what it was called? Corporatism! A private owned enterprise helped and subsidized by the state! The same system propagandized by the Republican party. And in defense of the Socialism. Socialism is a wider political view than most Americans think. There are many different tripes of socialism, to name a few: social-democracy, democratic socialism, pacifism, left-anarchism (aka. libertarian socialism), council communism, libertarian communism, communism (Marxism, Leninism, Luxemburgism, Trotskyism), Stalinism. But this last one is the only one you learn in you're history books. In fact when you analyzing stalinism, it has nothing to do with socialism. It's just a dictatorship, self labeling himself as socialist! It's like saying that because Osama Binladem is a terrorist than Muslim ideology promotes terrorism. Bush is a fascist to: he promotes nationalism, militarism and has concentration camps on Guantanamo Bay. Why don't you figure out that! Dictator ship has nothing to do with the economic system!

You're still relying only on a name, a label, it's been shown to be a false label.

Ergo, you're wrong.


(In case you needed a recap.)

Economically, it was socialist.

His party's name was the National Socialist Party. I am not wrong at all when stating this.

So I don't know what corner you're trying to back me into.

Joey: last to admit he's wrong.

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Not to be stereotypical, but I would have never figured that!!! Whoever is teaching you is doing a good job...

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Hey, thanks! Actually, it's an independent study sort of thing through the University of Texas. I get access to instructors over the internet, but I basically teach myself. They give you books and lesson plans and you pretty much take it from there. It works out fairly well, because our school district is, um, not the best. So I never have to set foot in that festering pile of bricks they call a high school (bitter, who, me?) and I get to graduate early. Yes! Love, Jen.

It's as you said, Joey, to that one other guy who said he's liberal, but you pointed out that most of his views weren't.

HItler says he's socialist and then kills a couple million people who disobey him or go against his beliefs.

Oh, he's so socialist. Isn't it obvio-WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

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Heh, I've got my days and nights all mixed up. I'm homeschooled, so I can keep whatever hours I want. Yay! Love, Jen.

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Not to be stereotypical, but I would have never figured that!!! Whoever is teaching you is doing a good job...

and his people would say" hail hitler"...

nothing important...

of course joey would fail to mention that the socialist members of the nazi party were purged and driven from the nazi party when hitler came to power, also the fact that hitler (whom joey refers to as socialist) would attack another socialist nation, namely the soviet union, does not in anyway make sense. Furthermore, the nazi regime allied itself with and propped up big business, if you've ever seen the historically accurate movie entitled, "Schindler's list" you'd know that; shindler, with the blessings of hitler, was allowed to enslave the jews and use them as slave labor in austria to produce weapons and such for the german war machine. And everyone knows that socialists don't like big business aka corporations.

burgermeister...ur completely correct....go you!

Umm, if you look at Mein Kampf and other writings of Hitler (transcriptions of speeches and whatnot), you'll see that he thought that Bolshevism was an enemy of the German state. The name of the National Socialist party was meant to appeal to German workers... even though it didn't work and they kept voting for the Communist party in Reichstag elections. Why do you think the SA repressed the Communists? If Hitler was actually a Socialist, wouldn't he have banded together with them? Nope, instead he aligned himself with Conservatives (i.e. von Papen).

Plus, I'm a bit paranoid at night now. We had a guy break into our house (my room!) a few weeks back, and it freaked me out. So it's kind of hard to sleep. Jen.

Heh, I've got my days and nights all mixed up. I'm homeschooled, so I can keep whatever hours I want. Yay! Love, Jen.

also...why are you always up at 3am or later? I am suppose to be the only Vampire around here...

Oh, okay! I did take it in kind of a "well, duh" context. But all's well. Love, Jen.

I wasn't trying to make you feel like an idiot...I don't think I could do that anyway. But I looked at the message and my "uhhh yeah" was not meant to be like the snotty cheerleader "well duh" sterotyped comment...it was more like uhh yeah that is true in a scholarly kinda way.

uhh, yeah. Russia was a huge factor in defeating the Nazi Party. Dang Communists!!

Well, I thought so, but them Joey said we should label him as a Communist and I got all confused and thought I was wrong. No need to make me feel like an idiot. Love, Jen.

uhh, yeah. Russia was a huge factor in defeating the Nazi Party. Dang Communists!!