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Registered: August 22, 2003
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Live life as if there was no tomorrow and make tomorrow better than the day before.
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Registered: January 08, 2007
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quote: Originally posted by clpo13:
Genesis 22:2-13. God orders Abraham to kill his son Isaac. Thou shalt not kill? Seems God can break his own rules.
But didn't god tell him not to kill his son? I think I simply remember that being a test to be sure that Abrham didn't worship his son, or put his son before god. it was actually a show of Abraham's love for god that he would even consider killing his son, one that he had longed for for so long, just because God said so. But the son never died. Just saying.  As for the rest of the excerpts, it seems as though you have taken them out of context, but I'm not in a position to sit and dispute every verse with a back story, this one I've recently read though. |
Registered: January 08, 2007
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I don't know who or what I stereotype the most, maybe Asians as being smart . . . but that's not really a bad thing is it? Everyone, everywhere stereotypes whether they realize it or not. I have nothing against stereotypes or judgments, its what you do with them and how you use them that can make them wrong.
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Registered: December 27, 2006
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...Err, this is an ooold thread! Gods.
...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: December 04, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by LauJunca: quote: Originally posted by LinkinParkGurl88:
I stereotype Christians the most. I do have Christians friends but as a whole....I hate them all. I sometimes scare myself with all the hate I have but nothing scares me the most than all the hatred they have for gay people. I fear if I went to some church...and everyone knew I was gay...more than half the people there would tell me I was going to hell. Sometimes I remind myself that you can't judge a whole group as a whole but yet Christians to that to gays and lesbians. I know that makes me no better than them and that's okay for right now. Most of the time I do try to be the bigger person.When I'm not the bigger person, it's only because I've been pushed too far.
**Courtney**
To say something like that is completely ignorant in itself. So you're gay and you don't like that Christianity, generally speaking, condemns gays as a whole. So in return, you condemn Christianity as a whole? You're doing the same exact thing they are. Hate to break it to you, but you sound really ignorant and petulant when you say that. I know you realize that you're no better than they are, but I think that you lumping all Christianity as gay-hating is totally wrong. I'm a devout Catholic, as is the rest of my family, and most of our friends are gay. My mom's best friend is gay, yet he comes to Church with us every Sunday. The priest knows this and is totally okay with this. No Catholic in his right mind, or considering himself a true Catholic, would ever tell you you were going to hell. People who claim to read the Bible should perhaps take a second look and realize that they do not have the right to judge. Only God can judge. People who think they can should get over it. and somehow people see catholics as really judgemental people, when all i've ever heard a priest say is that we have to be accepting and loving and a whole bunch of sappy stuff to absolutely EVERYONE. no matter who they are. the pope forgave the man who shot him. trust me, we are a loving group. I'm just upset that you hate me because i'm catholic and you think i hate you because you're gay. i don't hate you. i went to catholic school. i've gone to opus dei retreats (don't trust what u read in the da vinci code- lies, the lot of t), and i was taught NEVER to judge. it was always "love first, love later, love last, but love always." i dunno. maybe i'm just confused. Catholics are taught not to judge yet somehow we're always painted as the worst of the worst. anyone like to explain?
I don't think you have to tell her what she is doing is wrong. She seems to have admitted in her own statement that "I know that makes me no better than them", as in those who prejudge gays and lesbians. She is admitting her own flaw in stereotyping, you don't have to call her ignorant. She obviously has reasoning for why she feels that way toward Christians, it's moreso a fear tied in with her unfair judgment of Christians. I'm not saying it's right, but she provides why she stereotypes them and admits to her own prejudice.
Change... To the fearful it is threatening because it means that things may get worse. To the hopeful it is encouraging because things may get better. To the confident it is inspiring because the challenge exists to make things better." - King Whitney Jr.
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Registered: January 01, 2007
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as to the results of that poll- i'm a minority and i'm not in a gang!!! i have ideas of stereotypes, so i'll maybe stereotype like, rednecks or s/t, or spics, as in myself, but i'll never stereotype the individuals. does that make sense? and i never take n e of it seriously, n e ways.
-Lau ("Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains.")
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Registered: January 01, 2007
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quote: Originally posted by LinkinParkGurl88:
I stereotype Christians the most. I do have Christians friends but as a whole....I hate them all. I sometimes scare myself with all the hate I have but nothing scares me the most than all the hatred they have for gay people. I fear if I went to some church...and everyone knew I was gay...more than half the people there would tell me I was going to hell. Sometimes I remind myself that you can't judge a whole group as a whole but yet Christians to that to gays and lesbians. I know that makes me no better than them and that's okay for right now. Most of the time I do try to be the bigger person.When I'm not the bigger person, it's only because I've been pushed too far.
**Courtney**
To say something like that is completely ignorant in itself. So you're gay and you don't like that Christianity, generally speaking, condemns gays as a whole. So in return, you condemn Christianity as a whole? You're doing the same exact thing they are. Hate to break it to you, but you sound really ignorant and petulant when you say that. I know you realize that you're no better than they are, but I think that you lumping all Christianity as gay-hating is totally wrong. I'm a devout Catholic, as is the rest of my family, and most of our friends are gay. My mom's best friend is gay, yet he comes to Church with us every Sunday. The priest knows this and is totally okay with this. No Catholic in his right mind, or considering himself a true Catholic, would ever tell you you were going to hell. People who claim to read the Bible should perhaps take a second look and realize that they do not have the right to judge. Only God can judge. People who think they can should get over it. and somehow people see catholics as really judgemental people, when all i've ever heard a priest say is that we have to be accepting and loving and a whole bunch of sappy stuff to absolutely EVERYONE. no matter who they are. the pope forgave the man who shot him. trust me, we are a loving group. I'm just upset that you hate me because i'm catholic and you think i hate you because you're gay. i don't hate you. i went to catholic school. i've gone to opus dei retreats (don't trust what u read in the da vinci code- lies, the lot of t), and i was taught NEVER to judge. it was always "love first, love later, love last, but love always." i dunno. maybe i'm just confused. Catholics are taught not to judge yet somehow we're always painted as the worst of the worst. anyone like to explain?
-Lau ("Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains.")
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Registered: December 04, 2006
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I have this stereotyping habit. I stereotype just about everyone. A blonde that's nicely dressed and twirling her hair = dumb blonde. But then I look at her and go "Who knows? Who am I to tell?" Also, I tend to think minorities in beat up clothes or a lot of tattoos are in gangs or something, but I get mad at myself for thinking that. After I make stupid prejudice thoughts, I always mentally yell at myself that that person doesn't deserve me placing an inaccurate label on them before I even speak to them. I don't consider myself racist. But a bit scared at times, like mentioned, of who I think may be "gangsters". If anyone has seen "Crash" you know what I mean. Ryan Phillipe's character said he wasn't racist/prejudice, but that proved a bit otherwise when he made some assumptions that got him in trouble. If anyone's seen the movie, you know what I mean. I don't like that part of me, the fact that I can be so judgmental. I always try and correct myself though. PS: Youthforchange - That scares me too. But then again, a bunch of creepy looking white guys in a group would freak me out. My brother and I even agreed that this sketchy looking guy (not a minority) looked like a child molester type. It's just what people do naturally. It's not always fair, but saying someone looks scary, disregarding their race, isn't stereotyping, just your gut judgment.
Change... To the fearful it is threatening because it means that things may get worse. To the hopeful it is encouraging because things may get better. To the confident it is inspiring because the challenge exists to make things better." - King Whitney Jr.
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Registered: April 24, 2006
Posts: 113
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quote: Originally posted by stAcEy897:
I stereotype a lot of African American people who are on the streets with du-rags on and clothing too big for their body and who are huddled in a group.
Its startaling, and I am totally against racism. But it is really kinda scary. Especially in groups. (I am not racist)
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Registered: January 12, 2005
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quote: Originally posted by clpo13:
Compared to the other options, the last applied to me the most. Having once lived in a very high-class suburb of Houston, I know not all Southerners are rednecks. I'd be more likely to classify Southerners as stuck up rich people with giant houses and fancy cars. I've never even been to West Virginia, so I can't comment on that one. I know more white people in gangs than I do minorities in gangs. And finally, all the rich people I've ever known wore clothes just as non-preppy as I do, and neither were they stuck up.
I was born in houston and lived there for some time. Irrelevant but cool
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Registered: September 29, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by clpo13:
Genesis 22:2-13. God orders Abraham to kill his son Isaac. Thou shalt not kill? Seems God can break his own rules.
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Exodus 22:19. God orders the faithful to execute witches.
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ***, with the edge of the sword." Joshua 6:21. And this happened on God's orders, no less.
"And he said, Take them alive. And they took them alive, and slew them at the pit of the shearing house, even two and forty men; neither left he any of them." 2 Kings 10:14. Jehu captures and murders 42 men, yet isn't condemned.
Now for slavery.
"And the LORD hath blessed my master greatly; and he is become great: and he hath given him flocks, and herds, and silver, and gold, and menservants, and maidservants, and camels, and *****." Genesis 24:35. God gave Abraham many slaves.
"For he had possession of flocks, and possession of herds, and great store of servants: and the Philistines envied him." Genesis 26:14. This time it's Isaac who gets the slaves.
"And he smote Moab, and measured them with a line, casting them down to the ground; even with two lines measured he to put to death, and with one full line to keep alive. And so the Moabites became David's servants, and brought gifts." 2 Samuel 8:2. Not only does David kill many Moabites, he enslaves the rest.
Need I say more?
"...Ye, and God said to Abraham, 'You will kill your son Issac.' And Abraham said, 'I'm sorry, you'll have to speak into the microphone.' And God said, 'Oh, I'm sorry, is this better? Check, check, Jenny pull the high end out I'm getting a little hiss back here.'" That's all. Oh, and I've done all that stereotyping at one point or another. ::Shrugs.:: I know they're all not necessarily true, but I've still done it. I picked the West Virginia thing because I feel that stereotype is dying. It's a funny one.
A lo hecho, pecho.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Compared to the other options, the last applied to me the most. Having once lived in a very high-class suburb of Houston, I know not all Southerners are rednecks. I'd be more likely to classify Southerners as stuck up rich people with giant houses and fancy cars. I've never even been to West Virginia, so I can't comment on that one. I know more white people in gangs than I do minorities in gangs. And finally, all the rich people I've ever known wore clothes just as non-preppy as I do, and neither were they stuck up.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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I of course picked the last option. I'm sure all you crazy PeTA liberals picked it too.  Honorablecoalition.tripod.com Whereas;This message has hereby been proudly deemed racism and bigotry free by the Great and Honorable Coalition Against Racism. MMIV - Youthnoise's First Coalition.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Genesis 22:2-13. God orders Abraham to kill his son Isaac. Thou shalt not kill? Seems God can break his own rules. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Exodus 22:19. God orders the faithful to execute witches. "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ***, with the edge of the sword." Joshua 6:21. And this happened on God's orders, no less. "And he said, Take them alive. And they took them alive, and slew them at the pit of the shearing house, even two and forty men; neither left he any of them." 2 Kings 10:14. Jehu captures and murders 42 men, yet isn't condemned. Now for slavery. "And the LORD hath blessed my master greatly; and he is become great: and he hath given him flocks, and herds, and silver, and gold, and menservants, and maidservants, and camels, and *****." Genesis 24:35. God gave Abraham many slaves. "For he had possession of flocks, and possession of herds, and great store of servants: and the Philistines envied him." Genesis 26:14. This time it's Isaac who gets the slaves. "And he smote Moab, and measured them with a line, casting them down to the ground; even with two lines measured he to put to death, and with one full line to keep alive. And so the Moabites became David's servants, and brought gifts." 2 Samuel 8:2. Not only does David kill many Moabites, he enslaves the rest. Need I say more?
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: March 10, 2005
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quote: It also says in the bible to kill. And that it is okay to have slaves.
book of the bible? chapter? verse? where does it say these things are okay? especially the killing one. I remember reading the Ten Commandments; the sixth commandment says "thou shall not murder". and where exactly does it say that its a-okay to have slaves? I know the Bible talks about slavery (as well as many other things we condemn today) but where does the Lord say that its alright to have slaves? I've heard so many people on here talk against the Bible - but they never give me the exact verse where God says these horrible things are alright with him. I'm not going to believe anything yall say negatively against the Bible until I see verses that show me I'm wrong.
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
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Registered: January 12, 2005
Posts: 750
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quote: Originally posted by captainoatz:
2)being a christian, you must have read the bible...because in leviticus, God condemns homosexuality and proclaims it a sin.
It also says in the bible to kill. And that it is okay to have slaves.
Indecision may or may not be my problem
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Registered: June 27, 2005
Posts: 70
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Rich people, Mexicans... probaby other things too. I don't mean to say it but it happens and in this day and time its everywhere.
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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ilovebush- I sterotype Gods as morons due to years of having sterotypical Roman, Greek, and Christian myths fed to me. Gods in these stories tend to make frequent errors, therefore if I met a new God, my first thought would be that he/she isn't very sensible. However, just because the other Gods aren't logical doesn't mean this one isn't, therefore I am stereotyping. ' Conversly, I am just being an idiot for the hell of it, as Bella suggested, though she really shouldn't feel the need to point that out.
L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Drug users, alcoholics; basically people who use ...
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6040
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I stereotype sterotypers. 'Nuff said.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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