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Registered: August 04, 2001
Posts: 157
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For God's sake, if He made a child gay, don't discriminate.
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Registered: October 31, 2001
Posts: 277
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In fact I agree with you about people being born with more testosterone or estrogen , but that does not make you gay. Some girls are more athletic than others....(omg! wait! That must mean that seeing how they have more testosterone that they're gay!) , but it does not make them gay. Some girls are just downright prissy....maybe I should put that nicer....more feminine. I do not believe a person is born gay and I think it is about the sickest exscuse anyone has come up with to justify them being gay and the world not liking it. I also think it's pretty demented to call little children possibly gay. FOR GOD"S SAKE >>>>THEY ARE CHILDREN>>>>>NOT SEXUALLY ACTIVE ADULTS !!!!!!! You'd think you'd let them enjoy their innocence while they have it. I believe homosexuality is a learned act , and that people become adapted to it. Now I answered many other posts earlier , and now to have someone trying to jump on me again about through another moronic post is really annoying. So what if you don't agree with me , and besides ..if I did have a child and I did not want him around a gay person that would be my choice to make and not your's to criticize.
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Registered: August 04, 2001
Posts: 157
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Wait, it's not the end of the story yet. Why exactly cannot children be gay? I certainly believe that you're either born gay or not, you just haven't determined that yet. Scientific evidence proves that some people are naturally born with more opposite sex hormones and cells than others. You cannot dispute that fact! Homosexuality is not something that you can control. Of course some people might not truly be gay, but determining sexuality isn't like determining the color hair dye you're going to buy. Saying that you wouldn't let your child metaphorically or realistically go somewhere with a homosexual is ignorant.
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Registered: October 31, 2001
Posts: 277
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1. I never said a gay man couldn't fight for his country. Don't know where you got that one , but whatever! 2. I'm not saying just because you are gay you are a child molester , but if I had a son he would'nt be going anywhere with a homosexual man. End of story! 3. I did'nt say that a lasbien woman would be checking me out if I was in some area of the military and had to shower near her , but the difference between "guys at the pool" and a lesbian showering near you is this. At a pool you are not undressing in front of these "guys". Don't know what kind of pool you swim at! In the shower's you are exposed completely. And believe me , I've had plenty of lesbians/bi's come on to me more than my share of times. It made me very uncomfortable. Because whether you know it or not in confined areas like jails or a military base women have been raped by other gay women. 4. Who said anything about kicking out a little boy because he is "gay"? I do not believe a little boy can be gay. That's pretty sick. I can't even believe you would say something like that ! Now on to your next comment....I hear plenty of stories about older men molesting young boys! Sure it's a person's choice if they want to join in such behavior , but the boy scouts association does NOTunder any circumstances have to accept it !!!! They run the association so if they do not want you working there so be it. I'd also like to add that you obviously can't read my posts clearly liberal because you seem to be good at turning things around on me. LOL! It's expected though isn't it?!? Now I was discussing the leaders of the group....not the scouts themselves ! And I was also using a metaphor .."If I had a son" . I do not know if you somehow got the impression that I have a son or a child for that matter , but I'm sure you conjured that one up in your mind too. 5. I wouldn't matter to me if I had a son and he went out with a group because of some other kid who was claiming to be gay. It would matter to me if it was a scout leader going with them that was. Did I make that clear enough for you? We're speaking of adults....not children. Were speaking of young , innocent children who do not understand the meaning of "gay" and are not "gay". I've made that pretty clear I believe. I do not wish to continue discussing this . I stated my points and views on this as you did except I stated everything much differently than you made it out to be. Read my post again from before and maybe you'll finally figure out how you turned this around on me. But that doesn't matter too much because I know and see people like you everyday. I'm very comfortable and confident in my veiws and points and at least I know what I said. You apparently didn't. Next time read a bit more carefully between the bold lines. That's where the real information is.
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Registered: August 25, 2001
Posts: 73
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Actually a disproportionate majority of child molesters are male heretosexuals, not homosexuals. Fron the National Sexual Violence Database: "Most men who molest boys are not gay. Nearly 80% are heterosexual in their adult prefenence, and most are married with children of their own. "
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Registered: August 04, 2001
Posts: 157
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The isms will never end, if every homosexual is going to be labeled as a potential child molester.
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Registered: November 03, 2001
Posts: 378
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Thank you PrincessL. And just because somebody is lesbian or gya doesn't mean they check out everybody. Do you check out every guy when you go swimming. And anyway, it isn't a matter of gay boy scout leaders, it is a matter of kicking out a boy because of his sexual preferences. Do yuo hear stories about guys molesting other guys? NO! It is that person's choice whether or not they want to do an activity, not the boy scout association. P.S. Why do you care if your son goes to boy scouts with a gay kid. It's not a disease! You can't catch homosexuality!
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Registered: August 11, 2001
Posts: 333
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what about the women in the military, if they are going to let women fight for their country then why not homosexual men. And as for the boyscouts, their are plenty of female scout leaders, and people let their kids go on campouts wiht them. Just because someone is gay doesn't label them as a child molester.
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Registered: October 31, 2001
Posts: 277
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No offense , but I wouldn't want to be showering and have some lesbian checking me out ok? Thats just not cool. As for the boyscouts thing...I wouldn't leave my son if I had one alone on an overnight trip with a homosexual. NO WAY! Have you not found out about those little boys that were so screwed up in the head after neing molested by their scout leader ??!!?? But if thats how you want it...fine. But you'd never catch me or anyone I know allowing that. And sure .. if they can fight for their country thats awesome. It's just a matter of trouble starting. You know that if other members of whatever sqad they were assigned found out a lot of people would be out to get them. It saves the army /military etc. a lot of unneeded trouble.
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Registered: September 19, 2001
Posts: 61
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I think that people shouldn't be so over sensitive about gay people in the military. After all it's the military not ballet school. Your defending the country, possiblily with rifles in your hand. Your primary concern should be snipers that are trying to take you out, not that the person next to you in the fox-hole is gay. If you can pass boot camp then you can make it in the army, that should be the only requirment.
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Registered: November 03, 2001
Posts: 378
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They do set up don't ask don't tell policies (you are not permited to ask about anyone's sexual preferances). I guess that it is nice that they want to protect homosexual people from the pain and embarressment, but kicking them out if they want to continue isn't fair. I won't even go into the kicking out for gay guys in Boy Scouts 
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Registered: October 31, 2001
Posts: 277
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the reason that is enforced int he military is to eliminate a lot of trouble. A lot of those people who come in to the military and are agy ro bi are going to experience a lot of trouble once anyone finds out. You gotta admit thats true....
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