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Registered: November 27, 2003
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quote: Originally posted by clpo13: quote: im for gay marriage but not for gay benefits. those benefits were made strictly for a man and a woman.
Says who? quote: If homosexual couples could reproduce, there wouldn't be different genders.
Why would they need to reproduce? There are enough horn-y heterosexuals out there to provide enough children to go around. Ever heard of this amazing concept they call "adoption"? It's the heterosexual--and married--couples who give up those babies, and the homosexual couples who adopt them. What a novel idea!
But in this scenario, I thought heterosexual couples aren't allowed.
Just because nobody understands you, that doesn't mean you're artistic.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: im for gay marriage but not for gay benefits. those benefits were made strictly for a man and a woman.
Says who? quote: If homosexual couples could reproduce, there wouldn't be different genders.
Why would they need to reproduce? There are enough horn-y heterosexuals out there to provide enough children to go around. Ever heard of this amazing concept they call "adoption"? It's the heterosexual--and married--couples who give up those babies, and the homosexual couples who adopt them. What a novel idea!
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: June 23, 2004
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quote: By Joseph Smith in the mid 1800s. I don't memorize all dates on Earth you know. I trust his prophecy. He did after all prophecy about the civil war and who would begin in it about 30 years before it. Shortly following the civil war, the current prophet foretold WWI. It's amazing.
This almost seems un-Christian! Believing something outside of the bible! Something NOT from God him/herself! Oh my goodness! I didn't know Christians were allowed to believe something that the bible or their church doesn't specifically approve of... This so called "prophet" that you speak of, predicted the Civil War would happen. That probably wasn't too hard (even for 30 years before) considering the differing opinions of the south and the north... and with WWII, did they predict the dates? if not, then that's pretty easy to predict now, just like I predict that in the next 20 years there is still going to be international conflict and strife... If this philosopher did predict the dates, then he got lucky...(but, again your not specifying on what dates he made the predictions...) And since when has marriage been a benefit?? Have you ever heard someone say, "You have the benefit of getting married??" Not often, people say, "you have a right to get married." If the tables were turned, I would still fight for rights for all. You know, the equality thing. It seems to cause less problems if everyone has the same rights. It's not good when people think they are better than another... And for all of you "Christians" who are anti-gay, just remember: you are not better than a gay person because your religion believes that everyone is a sinner. Your religion also teaches that sinners go to hell. So, wait a sec, heaven must be empty...uh-oh
"I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment, to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure." -Clarence Darrow
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Registered: March 30, 2005
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Many great prophecers (sp?) have said certain things on a certain date will happen, and they haven't. Take Notradamus for example. Brilliant man, made many great prophecies, we're still waiting for some of them to come true, others have passed and failed. It's a hit and miss game. When they say "benefit" they mean like the insurance benefits, etc. Marriage itself should just be for the person you've chosen to share your life with and it doesn't matter whether they're the same sex or the opposite sex. Gay Marriage Isn't Wrong! (*phew* That was fun.)
"I imagine a lot of people tune in simply to watch reporters get bitch-slapped by Mother Nature, and frankly, who can blame them?� Anderson Cooper
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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quote: By Joseph Smith in the mid 1800s. I don't memorize all dates on Earth you know. I trust his prophecy. He did after all prophecy about the civil war and who would begin in it about 30 years before it. Shortly following the civil war, the current prophet foretold WWI. It's amazing.
Yeah, and do you remember when all the "prophets" predicted the world will end in 2000? Since when is marriage a benefit?
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: March 03, 2005
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im for gay marriage but not for gay benefits. those benefits were made strictly for a man and a woman.
peace and equality
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Registered: November 27, 2003
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quote: Originally posted by Greenleaf771: quote: I would feel like the US was going to the dogs, and the prophecy about the US constitution hanging by a thread directly before the 2nd Coming of Christ to be fufilling itself.
When was this "prophecy" about the Constitution proposed, exactly?
By Joseph Smith in the mid 1800s. I don't memorize all dates on Earth you know. I trust his prophecy. He did after all prophecy about the civil war and who would begin in it about 30 years before it. Shortly following the civil war, the current prophet foretold WWI. It's amazing.
Just because nobody understands you, that doesn't mean you're artistic.
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Registered: March 30, 2005
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quote: I would feel like the US was going to the dogs, and the prophecy about the US constitution hanging by a thread directly before the 2nd Coming of Christ to be fufilling itself.
When was this "prophecy" about the Constitution proposed, exactly?
"I imagine a lot of people tune in simply to watch reporters get bitch-slapped by Mother Nature, and frankly, who can blame them?� Anderson Cooper
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Registered: May 22, 2005
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The Kim says: "Meh, at least ther won't be as many children." 
-Kim
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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quote: I would feel like the US was going to the dogs, and the prophecy about the US constitution hanging by a thread directly before the 2nd Coming of Christ to be fufilling itself.
That's why I'm not religious.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 09, 2005
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quote: Originally posted by Brehon:
I would not feel at all awful on the first count, because my religion has no concept of sinning. However, if a government did ban hetrosexual marriages it would be condeming the whole country to death, and there would be a lot of refugees leaving for Canada and Mexico.
I am for gay marriages, I would like to point out. I agree with Greenleaf, that it is difficult to accept anothers point of view. Just keep telling them, it will sink in eventually.
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Registered: June 09, 2005
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quote: Originally posted by yogore: quote: The homosexuals would eventually die off. Artificial insumation is much more expensive, harder to work, and just more of a hassle than sexual intercourse, so not all gay couples will indulge in it.
or just sex with someone to create a child. parenting isn't about being genetically related. It's about care. Quakers don't have children and there are still quakers around. It's hypothetical. Don't rip the question apart. you can't pretend it's our society we're talking about, there's too many kinks. What if it was a different society and homosexuality was the norm and you could reproduce that way. As a heterosexual, you couldn't reproduce or get married, how would you feel about that?
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Registered: June 09, 2005
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quote: Originally posted by Greenleaf771: quote: I would feel like the US was going to the dogs, and the prophecy about the US constitution hanging by a thread directly before the 2nd Coming of Christ to be fufilling itself.
You're joking, right?
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Registered: January 22, 2005
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Then I suspect hubbabaloo, that you are increadibly prejudiced and are one of those who should be labeled dangerous to society and posted somewhere very far away.
Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
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Registered: November 27, 2003
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quote: Originally posted by Greenleaf771: quote: I would feel like the US was going to the dogs, and the prophecy about the US constitution hanging by a thread directly before the 2nd Coming of Christ to be fufilling itself.
You're joking, right?
Nope.
Just because nobody understands you, that doesn't mean you're artistic.
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Registered: March 30, 2005
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quote: I would feel like the US was going to the dogs, and the prophecy about the US constitution hanging by a thread directly before the 2nd Coming of Christ to be fufilling itself.
You're joking, right?
"I imagine a lot of people tune in simply to watch reporters get bitch-slapped by Mother Nature, and frankly, who can blame them?� Anderson Cooper
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Registered: November 27, 2003
Posts: 1512
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PoliticalStandpoint, it's a bad scenario. It just isn't making me feel that it's unfair. If homosexual couples could reproduce, there wouldn't be different genders. To answer the questions: I would feel like the US was going to the dogs, and the prophecy about the US constitution hanging by a thread directly before the 2nd Coming of Christ to be fufilling itself. I would appeal to the courts about my religious freedom, and I would marry a male. (I'm female) It's still fair for me not to recognize homosexual marriage as binding.
Just because nobody understands you, that doesn't mean you're artistic.
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Registered: June 14, 2004
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Hmmm...I have seen know true answers from any "I hate gays" people....that's very interesting.
Belief makes things real/Makes things feel, feel alright/Belief makes things true/Things like you, you and I
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Registered: May 18, 2005
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This is what people are not thingking about:No one would be in an uproar, because the homosaxuals would have been, and would be the majority, and it would have always been like that. What Critikay is trying to get you to do is think of history, think of now, and think of the future, only switch it to where all the heteros are now in the position of the gays, and all the gays were/are in the position of what the straights were/are in. S/he's not trying to say, "What if it suddenly changed?" S/he's asking, what if it had been like that all along? You are now the straight person wanting rights, and the Homosexuals won't give them to you. They think it's wrong. She's trying to turn the tables, and you are taking her questions out of context. The Senario should be: What if, when two women mate, they do have offspring, and same as man. Heterosexuals can't produce offspring. So, should they still be concidered people even though they can't have children together? I know this scenario is physically impossiable, but just think about it. If you guys are half the people you think you are, you'll really think and concider the possibilities. Open your minds. If you still come up with "gays are bad" I'll loose all faith in mankind and come kill you in you're sleep, because it's that blatantly obvious.
Democrats are way sexier. Have you ever heard of a nice piece of elephant?
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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quote: The homosexuals would eventually die off. Artificial insumation is much more expensive, harder to work, and just more of a hassle than sexual intercourse, so not all gay couples will indulge in it.
or just sex with someone to create a child. parenting isn't about being genetically related. It's about care. Quakers don't have children and there are still quakers around. It's hypothetical. Don't rip the question apart. you can't pretend it's our society we're talking about, there's too many kinks. What if it was a different society and homosexuality was the norm and you could reproduce that way. As a heterosexual, you couldn't reproduce or get married, how would you feel about that? "You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore |
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