quote: Gay marriages put a bad label on society. All the other stuff gives a bad label as well, but at least it happens all over the world.
Gay marriage doesn't put a bad label on society. It's people like you who make society bad. And the really frightening thing is: there are probably more people like you in the world than there are homosexuals.
Also tallywack who cares about society, society is the sick being. with our having to have everything just so and people all having to follow specific guide lines to actually become a person. People are rapidly losing their creativity and their unique qualities because of society and the pressure to conform to the mold. Also I think society is what makes people so bigoted when if we used our minds instead of societies then we could learn that what some people are fighting for, the infringment of peoples basic civil rights, is absolutly insane
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
I don't understand how you christian people can have so much hate and bitterness towards the gay community when we are taught by Jesus to love our enemies. Its clear to me that they are on the top of alot of your enemy lists. So love them, embrace them, or atleast keep your mouths shut about their own beliefs. live and let live man let them do their thing while you do your own.
How about saying your opinion in a respectful manner for a change. Or, actually backing up your opinion with correct facts instead of just hating gays.
quote: That is not as sick as a gay marriage. Gay marriages put a bad label on society. All the other stuff gives a bad label as well, but at least it happens all over the world. Now I dont like the marriage for money, but at least it isn't gay marriage.
Define sick, because how you can stick such a vague label on something is beyond me.
Happens all over the world? Really. Well, gay marriage is often found outside the oh-so-wonderful USA. And really, guess what. Murder is found all over the world. Cancer is found all over the world. Beating your spouse is found all over the world. So are many good aspects of humans, no matter how few and far between those said aspects fall. Almost everything found in human societies apply to many other places. Including, gay marriage.
I'm going to assume that sicne everyone is almost off-topic, that we're all in agreement on how Gay people are not a minority. I love it when we all get along...
So your saying that its abusing marriage to have a gay couple get married but its perfectly fine for britney spears to marry a man for one night and then get rid of it like it was nothing?
quote: Gay marriage is sick? Really, how do such things directly hurt you? Is it sick that marriage is now taken so lightly that people sometimes use marriage to get money and marry for a few days and say, "The hell with it. I want an annulment"?
That is not as sick as a gay marriage. Gay marriages put a bad label on society. All the other stuff gives a bad label as well, but at least it happens all over the world. Now I dont like the marriage for money, but at least it isn't gay marriage.
quote: If gays do have the right to get married legally in the future then Paintbucket and I will move to Canada or Russia because we despise a gay society.
quote: Gay marriages are sick!! It is clear that marriage is between a man and a woman and that's it! The thought of gay people make me cringe anyway and nothing wouldn make me angrier than allowing this stupid **** to happen! I would have no beef with gay people if they would just keep to themselves instead of having "Gay" parades in San Francisco. If gays do have the right to get married legally in the future then Paintbucket and I will move to Canada or Russia because we despise a gay society.
Gay marriage is sick? Really, how do such things directly hurt you? Is it sick that marriage is now taken so lightly that people sometimes use marriage to get money and marry for a few days and say, "The hell with it. I want an annulment"?
Where is it clear? The Bible? If you believe the Bible is crap, then is such thing still 'clear'? Do same sex marriages cause world havoc and the universe to collapse or something?
The thought of not being able to legally marry the person they love also makes people cringe. Nothing would make some people more miserable to be told, "Hey, no. You can't get married, even if you love each other."
So, if it bothered me to be stuck in a hallway at school where there are all these straight couples kissing, it justifies me calling them all, "sick"?
Gay marriage = gay society Reeeeeeally. A colony or community of humans that are all gay. How does that work? If I married my hypothetical girlfriend, would you suddenly become gay as well?
Gay marriages are sick!! It is clear that marriage is between a man and a woman and that's it! The thought of gay people make me cringe anyway and nothing wouldn make me angrier than allowing this stupid **** to happen! I would have no beef with gay people if they would just keep to themselves instead of having "Gay" parades in San Francisco. If gays do have the right to get married legally in the future then Paintbucket and I will move to Canada or Russia because we despise a gay society.
quote: So when we talk about marryiing Gays you're asking the church to bless the union of two people that are going against the Law of God
Well, first of all, it says nowhere that you cannot MARRY someone of your sex (and it says nothing at all about women, but that's cause the bible like ignores most of the women. And what if you aren't getting married in a Church? My parents didn't get married in a church. Many people don't get married in churches. Believe it or not, some people are NOT Christian. so should they still have to go by laws based on Christian rules.
Guys, no matter what your argument is, comments like these make everything you say seem like BS, even if the points themselves make sense.
quote: those who want to marry their dogs
How can you (in general) compare people who want to marry their pets with gay marriage? Can the dog ever say, "I do"?
quote: People aren't born gay! Damn
Then how would they be gay? Would you honestly choose to love someone if it would cause you as much trouble as someone could possibly manage to get into? I sure wouldn't have, but it's not really something you have much control over.
Okay, conflictingzest, if marriage is a Christian concept then why... Oh, what the hell.... SHUT UP!
If marriage is a Christian concept, why did marriage exist before Christianity? Why do Jews get married? Why do Muslims get married? WHY DO PEOPLE IN EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN COUNTRY GET MARRIED?
HUH? ANSWER ME THAT, *****! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
Uh...yeah, sorry. But you are very, very wrong. I just got so confused how someone can be so wrong and still say something...
Okay, enough with all of you anti-gay people and your sad, ridiculous attempts at analogies. Do you know anyone who wants to marry their dog? Does humanity have a long history of legally-sanctioned dog love? No.
Now, granted, humanity does not have a long history of legally-sanctioned same-sex love, but you still have to recognize that there is an infinite difference between gays and people who want to marry their dogs. If you wanted to make a valid argument, you would recognize this difference, but then again, if you were in the business of making valid arguments, you also wouldn't cite the Bible.
Anywho...
There is a fundamental difference in a naturally occuring intra-species sexual deviation and inter-species relations. Gays are a much, much, much larger group than those who want to marry their dogs, and a group that large deserves civil rights.
Gay marriage setting a precedent that would let in polygamy is almost as faulty an argument. Allowing gays to marry is about recognizing that they are equal as human beings. Polygamy, however, has historically been about male supremacy. You may say, "oh, what if all the women and men involved are okay with it?" Have you EVER heard of any group of people saying "We demand that we can all be bound in an orgy of holy matrimony!"? I kinda doubt it. The sort of people who want to get together in a big sexual hodge-podge don't really need marriage, and don't seem to demand it.
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