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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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I am mullatoe, but am still pretty dark. Pretty much anyone who sees me thinks I'm black. Having grown up with a white mom (whom I love) and in a pretty much white city, I feel like, until recently, I was blinded to the prejudice I and other minorities faced. It's just begun to hit me how many prejudice people are really out there. I can only speak from my perspective, but I feel like some white people (not all, so don't put words in my mouth) either have a hard time seeing the other side of the fence or just don't want to. I frequently get comments such as..."It's not the 50s or the 60s anymore...that was back in the day...things are better now...you gotta let go of the past...you're paranoid". These comments have come from friends and people I've encountered. So my question to everyone out there is do you have a hard time seeing the other side of the fence, or do you just don't wanna see it? Peace.
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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That being established Outspokenme, it's still completely unacceptable that there is any intolerance from any side. It's still a country and race-wide issue. But this supports my belief that when it comes to race relations, more white people than minorities propogate these problems and have prejudiced views.
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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You think remembering the past can be a bad thing cause you aren't a minority. We gotta remember our past. AND I'M NOT HOLDING A DAMN GRUDGE. What the hell is wrong with you all? This just shows what America is about, and how some white people just don't get it. I'm speaking out. How is that holding a grudge? I know the past is NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER for how my life turns out. I'm responsible for my own life, not prejudiced people. And it's not like things are THAT bad these days. That being said, while there isn't rampant hate crimes and violence these days, I don't think subtle prejudice and perceptions in people's minds has come that far. Again, maybe you just gotta be black to see that. I don't know. But things have come a LONNNNG way. Yes, blacks aren't being treated like outright crap anymore cause America realized it was unfair, but the prejudice level hasn't gone down that much. It's alot more subtle these days. And thanks for saying that Socrates. I agree that all humans are equally prone to unlimited amounts of racism, but the fact of the matter is that it has become rooted in white culture. Again, it isn't something white people are born with, in that, cause they are white, they are more prone to be racist. I appreciate you saying that Socrates. That shows some balls, being white, to stand up and say something like that. I wish there were more people like you who didn't see color.
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Registered: January 27, 2003
Posts: 31
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I have really good friends on the other side of the fence. Even my parents are predjudice. I have friends of all races, heighths, sizes, ect. So, my answer to your question is no. Yours truly, CCheergirl102 
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Registered: April 22, 2002
Posts: 279
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bextherex here - It logged me in as my sister for some reason. In response to Kilow saying whites were the aggressors against the American Indians, actually a large proportion of the settlers in the West were black so what you're saying isn't strictly true. Black people have been involved in racist struggles as well - the Irish and black populations in New York when it was first being settled had nasty racial clashes (that were pretty much ignored completely in the film Gangs of New York)
However, for all this nitpicking you're right that racism has been perpetuated by white people on a much larger scale. I think other races are just as prone to judging and prejudice - we were just the ones that invaded countries and had the power to enforce our racist ideas of superiority.
I think remembering the past too much can just cause more injustice. Because of the Holocaust the Jews were able to take huge chunks of Palestine, which they hadn't occupied for hundreds of years and which really they have a fairly feeble claim to, and the result is a conflict that seems to have no end in sight. I respect the past of stuggle and oppression that black people have suffered, but I don't believe in holding grudges. There may still be racism around (as long as stupid people exist in the world), but you can't deny things have improved hugely - I think some minorities are so busy campaigning that they don't realise when they've won.
I have no problem seeing things from both sides of the fence - sometimes I see both sides of an issue so much that I have no idea where I stand!
Bex
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Registered: July 08, 2002
Posts: 566
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Let's see... The Catholic Church declared racism a sin in 1990, but over 90% of white readers of US Catholic magazine admitted to being at least somewhat racist in an issue I read sometime in late 2001/ early 2002. And I'm sure the percentage would be even higher among groups such as Southern Baptists who haven't declared racism a sin. I know a lot of racists (just the product of living in TN). Fortunately, my mother is a fromer ACLU activist, so despite being white the first person I ever considered a hero was Martin Luther King Jr. Yes, there is some anti-white racism among racial minorities, but it's mostly a backlash against white racism. Take away the white racists and there wouldn't be black racists; there wouldn't be any need. Among the people I know, the racists are overwhelmingly white. The African-Americans and the Asians get along well with people of other races.
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Registered: October 22, 2002
Posts: 7
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I have grown up in a pretty multiracial community all my life and have many friends from many walks of life. They all have shared with me at one time or another about themselves and the conditions that they have to live in. And you know sometimes it really isn't that great. But you know they always have come back to the fact that they have put their faith in the Lord. They have been able to give all the glory and praise even through all the situations that they have come to. And you know I couldn't put it in any other form better then that.
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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I got **** to do. I'll hit you back tomorrow. Peace.
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Registered: March 11, 2002
Posts: 1462
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Ah, I've found an interesting denominator in your examples: All of the Caucasian examples of agressors you provided me with were due to religious reasons, although with slavery, obviously "color" was an issue. You say that not all "white" peoples are agressors, but then you lump Caucasians together as "white culture", which I must say, I find pretty damn offensive.
You say it's a fact that more minorities are down with interracial relationships than Caucasians, so since it's a fact, I'll ask for your source, please.
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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Bull**** saying whites have been the aggressors in history is a blanket statement. Look at history. The Crusades, the poor Indians, slavery...there must be a million examples I'm leaving out. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE, THEY ARE AGRESSORS. For some reason, that's how white culture has progressed. Can it be broken? Yeah. Is it innate to a white person? Hell no. Does every race have it's problems? Of course. As far as minorities being just as prejudiced as majorities...that may be true in some cases, but not when it comes to the White vs. minority relationship in the US. It's a fact more minorities are down with interracial relationships than whites. I'm not saying everything I say is infallible, but I hate how, at times, white people defend themselves just for the hell of it.
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Registered: March 11, 2002
Posts: 1462
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Whoa whoa whoa. Back it up. Don't you dare even try to blame "whites" as the agressors in history. That's just as bad as me being told that it was my ancestors who were slave owners. What I mean is that either of those statements is a complete generalization, a stereotype, a prejudice, so don't talk that BS to me.
I've noticed, as a minority regarding religion, and many other ideals, that prejudices against the majority are just as frequent and harsh as those from the majority about the minority.
Yet again, I'm not strictly speaking race here, I'm talking about minorities and majorities of population, in any aspect.
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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It's not true about the minorities. Yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of racist minorities. But to make a blanket statement like "many prejudiced minorities" is bull****. Where's your proof? White people have been the aggressor in history, not minorities.
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Registered: March 11, 2002
Posts: 1462
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Regarding the 50s/60s statement, read what I put right after I said it, oh wait, that's right, I was agreeing with you. **** off.
It's true, about the minorities, and it's general, not at all specific to race or anything. I'm not denying the prejudices against minorities, because I know all too well they're there.
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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Of course you're gonna say many minorities are biased against the majority. It's your cue. that's bull****. That's such a damn blanket statement. And stop saying "it's better than it was in the 50s and 60s". That has no damn bearing on today. Things are still pretty ****ty.
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Registered: March 11, 2002
Posts: 1462
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First off, it is better than it was in the 50s and 60s, however anyone saying the problem is solved is either blind or in denial.
Yes, there are still so many prejudices against the minority, but I've noticed many minorities are just as prejudiced against the majority (this is a general statement, not at all specific to race, religion, etc).
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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It's obvious no one gives a **** about this thread. Why? Cause minority issues are swept under the carpet in this country. It always turns out this way. Many white people in this country could care less about the way minorities feel, and to a point, are treated. White people got control of the country, so some of them aren't willing to compromise that to make things more equal. It's pitiful.
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Registered: February 09, 2003
Posts: 86
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It's cool that you can admit that though. People like you help racism go away, and don't perpetuate the problem like those who act like it doesn't exist.
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Registered: November 06, 2002
Posts: 343
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First of all, I'm white...second of all, my community is almost all white...which explains why I can't understand claims of prejudice very well. The truth is that I've never seen any racism...except maybe in one class a few years ago. I'm sure that the black members of my community may see it an entirely different way, and I'm not saying that they don't encounter racism, I'm sure they do, it's just that I have never seen it.
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