I was just wondering what everyone thought of all the gay weddings in San Francisco this past week. I personally have no problems with homosexuals getting married but it does go directly against state law in California. Should the brides/grooms be arrested? Should their marriages just be counted as void? Or should this be the first GIANT step to getting California to rewrite their law?

I think that gay marriage should be aloud because people should be aloud to love who they want to love.There just the same as everyone else so they should be able to do everything that hetrosexuals do.[THERE IS NO LAW BREAKING IF YOUR IN LOVE AND WANT TO COMMIT TO THEM.]

I'm gay and I want a wedding! Is that cool with everyone? no? well then you're not invited. its none of your business if i'm gettin' married or not unless your like my best friends and those positions have already been taken. I think I should have a right to get married TOO!

don't you??

Gay marriges should be allowed...if a woman or man whats to marry the same sex den dats dey biz.....it aint nobody eles worries what goes on between them.....me my self i might be bi but i will never marry a gurl i wanna marry a guy but thats jus me.......but dey be able to live life how they want to.....

no way. they shouldn't be arrested just for wanting to get married because they're not doing anything wrong.

I think that people should just let them be happy and leave them the hell allow. If they want to be gay, great!! If they want to be gay and get married, even better because that means that they are happy and everyone is entitled to happiness!!

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Gay people are just as free as you or I. They already have the right to get married the same as you or I.

All people have the right to be Christians- so maybe we should just get rid of all other religions.

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The problem is that the legal definition of marriage, what marriage is and has been since marriage came about, is the sacred union between a man and a woman.

Even if this was true, it can be changed.

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Gay people are free to love and have partners, it's just marriage really can't apply to them since it applies to opposite sex people. They can have something like marriage if they'd like, it's just not called marriage, it's called a CIVIL UNION.

They'd like that, yet they aren't allowed to have these civil unions in almost all states.

Bushism of the day:
"The only thing I know about Slovakia is what I learned first-hand from your foreign minister, who came to Texas."
- George W. Bush, To a Slovak journalist as quoted by Knight Ridder News Service, June 22, 1999. Bush's meeting was with Janez Drnovsek, the prime minister of Slovenia. -

Gay people are just as free as you or I. They already have the right to get married the same as you or I. The problem is that the legal definition of marriage, what marriage is and has been since marriage came about, is the sacred union between a man and a woman. Gay people are free to love and have partners, it's just marriage really can't apply to them since it applies to opposite sex people. They can have something like marriage if they'd like, it's just not called marriage, it's called a CIVIL UNION.

Isn't our country based on freedom? Many of our own ancestors came here for religion reasons so they could worship in their own way. Everyone has their right so why is it so wrong? If you love someone it shouldn't matter if it is a man or a woman. I grown up having an aunt who is a homoesexual and before I knew she was gay I got to know who she was and it didn't matter to me that she was. If were suppose to be open minded to things why don't we let our country take a big step? Isn't that what we done before?

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Same sex marriages should most definately NOT be allowed. Same sex marriages just promote something that is wrong. If you look at the statistics, over 80% of "homosexuals" became gay because of an event that took place.

Do you have a link/source for this?

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Whether it be sexual abuse, physical abuse, post traumatic stress, rape. By us promoting same sex marriage we are in a way promoting these "events".

Even IF you were right about the part above, this is completely bogus.

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I have lots of gay friends. Wonderful people, very nice. Do they believe they are gay because of "genetics"? Yes they do, but ask them if they were every molested, and we all know the outcome.

Do we? There are plenty of people on this site that are GLBT and have never been molested. There are plenty of people on this site that have been molested and are not gay. That also is true in the real world.

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Sad, but true. And as we all know the molested quite often (if they dont go through some form of help such as therapy which most dont) turn into the molesters.

What does this have to do with gay people?

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As comfortable as i feel around my gay friends, i wouldn't EVER leave a child around them without supervision.

That is insane. You think they are going to molest them, just because they are gay? How do you know your child's kindergarten teacher wasn't molested, but is straight? Would you leave a child around them? I would like to see a statistic for this molested to molester idea. I think you are jumping to some seriously misinformed conclusions.

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Promoting gay marriages is in turn promoting gay couples to be more free and even more affectionate or open/public with there love. This worries me because as we all know, groups (even if its just 1-2 additional people) tend to quite often get that "group mentality". If that group mentality is to molest a small child (which it very could well be), then we got 2 molesters instead of 1 and we got another peerpressuring another to join the "fun"!

So maybe we should just kill off all people who have been molested before, to keep them from harming society. And another thing, straight molest victims can get married, and under this same argument they shouldn't be allowed to get married either. But they do. To my knowledge, the application for a marriage liscense does not ask about past molestation. Should it? Should they not be allowed to get married if they have been?

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This could also work in an oposite fashion, but honestly i doubt it! Promoting gay marriage is like promoting 2 criminals to marry.

You have got to be kidding me. Criminals CAN marry. They do all the time. Why not gay people?

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Do we really want a bunch of Bonnie and Clydes getting married? I sure know i don't unless there on an island somewhere far far away. Or how about promoting drug addicts to get married (not in recovery)?

They already can. Sorry honey.

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That would not make a pretty picture. Same goes for gay marriage. We should not promote something which the vast majority of the country are against. It would be a big mistake. Homosexuality is a disease, something bad, wrong, unethical, not moral. Something that doesn't belong at all in this world, but the worlds not perfect so it should at least be kept in secret. You know... Behind closed doors. I mean if you were a heroin addict would you "shoot up" right in the middle of the street? Same thing with homosexuals. They shouldn't be showing affection of any kind. It is wrong, it confuses children and sends them the wrong message.

Proof? You don't think there are plenty of people out there like yourself showing them the "right" message? And these kids, I'm assuming, haven't been molested, so they won't turn out gay, right? No matter how many gay people they see.

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All of you homosexuals or not... Do you want your small child kissing members of the same sex? I think not. If he/she is you can pretty much assume he/she was in some way "tampered" with. i don't want my children being tampered with or even to have to witness others that are messed up! The gov't worked so hard to put a ban on "indecent" entertainment.

And yet it isn't. There are all KINDS of porn sites on the internet. Doesn't that send wrong messages to children? Doesn't that confuse them? Maybe we should just censor and illegalize everything that doesn't fit in the Christian idea of a perfect world.

So let's review, shall we? Until you give me a source for your "argument," it is worth nothing.

Bushism of the day:
"This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table." —George W. Bush, Brussels, Belgium, Feb. 22, 2005

what are you talking about??!! You think that gay marriages are sort of stupid.. how can you not offend anyone by saying that? If the couple wants kids there are millions of children out there who are up for adoption and would do anything to just have a family of their own that loves them and cares for them..! I don't understand how you can say gay marriages are stupid ... marriage is about two people who love each other and are uniting as one under the eyes of God. If it is not acceptable in the eyes of God, Why did he make people as they are and this means some are gay. And you should never question God and what he does.. so why are you discriminating against Gays/ Lesbians?? Just a question....

I was raised with very much respect to differences. Even though I am straight I was brought up with my aunt being a lesbian and I have alot of friends who are gay and lesbian. I see nothing wrong with that type of sexual orintation. They are people two. Lets start treating gays and lesbians like people instead of gross aliens. Gays and lesbians diserve to be treated with respect as well. Treat people the way you want to be treated. Obey the golden rule. Thank You, Marissa

Same sex marriages should most definately NOT be allowed. Same sex marriages just promote something that is wrong. If you look at the statistics, over 80% of "homosexuals" became gay because of an event that took place. Whether it be sexual abuse, physical abuse, post traumatic stress, rape. By us promoting same sex marriage we are in a way promoting these "events". I have lots of gay friends. Wonderful people, very nice. Do they believe they are gay because of "genetics"? Yes they do, but ask them if they were every molested, and we all know the outcome. Sad, but true. And as we all know the molested quite often (if they dont go through some form of help such as therapy which most dont) turn into the molesters. As comfortable as i feel around my gay friends, i wouldn't EVER leave a child around them without supervision. Promoting gay marriages is in turn promoting gay couples to be more free and even more affectionate or open/public with there love. This worries me because as we all know, groups (even if its just 1-2 additional people) tend to quite often get that "group mentality". If that group mentality is to molest a small child (which it very could well be), then we got 2 molesters instead of 1 and we got another peerpressuring another to join the "fun"! This could also work in an oposite fashion, but honestly i doubt it! Promoting gay marriage is like promoting 2 criminals to marry. Do we really want a bunch of Bonnie and Clydes getting married? I sure know i don't unless there on an island somewhere far far away. Or how about promoting drug addicts to get married (not in recovery)? That would not make a pretty picture. Same goes for gay marriage. We should not promote something which the vast majority of the country are against. It would be a big mistake. Homosexuality is a disease, something bad, wrong, unethical, not moral. Something that doesn't belong at all in this world, but the worlds not perfect so it should at least be kept in secret. You know... Behind closed doors. I mean if you were a heroin addict would you "shoot up" right in the middle of the street? Same thing with homosexuals. They shouldn't be showing affection of any kind. It is wrong, it confuses children and sends them the wrong message. All of you homosexuals or not... Do you want your small child kissing members of the same sex? I think not. If he/she is you can pretty much assume he/she was in some way "tampered" with. i don't want my children being tampered with or even to have to witness others that are messed up! The gov't worked so hard to put a ban on "indecent" entertainment. So, this issue shouldnt even have to be a issue on debate. There was one thing i was very curious about however. Maybe one of you know the answer.?.?.? The FCC put an end to much of the smut on TV. Yet, how come when i was flipping through channels i stumbled upon 2 women getting it on on the OC??? It was sexxy as hell, but i would not under any circumstances let or want a small child to witness that. Thats all i got! Thanks for hearing me out!

I totally think that gay marriages are fine. My uncle is gay and had been living with his partner for like 10 years now. I am so glad that they can marry now in San Fransisco. Because if my uncle happened to up and die one day, his partner would not be entiteld to their house, land or money. I also think that if people have problems with it, their entiteled to. But it is not like if you see a gay couple or talk to them your going straight to H E double hockey sticks. They are people just like everyone else and have feelings. Oh and I think gay couples should be allowed to have adopted children, 2 women I know have a daughter and a son who have grown up to be perfectly normal.

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I think gay marrigaes r well sort of stupied.(sry if i offended anyone) If they get married their gonna want kids right? Well i think it would be unfair to the kids cause what if they get teased about it. Some kids will find any reason to bug other kids and thats just anotherchance for them to bug the kids

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i think we should let the kids decide for themselves

Just my thoughts,
Emily

i read some where down on this page saying that gay adoption is kind of wrong. saying that a child would need a strong influence from male and female parents. why is that? whats the difference between a gay couple and a straight couple? what is the child going to learn differently from the gay couple? there are plenty of kids that have male female parents, but live in a dump. the parents don't take care of them. they get abused. all that good stuff(sarcasm,duh). i'm not saying that some gay couples don't do the same, i'm just saying a child isn't going to ****ed up somehow by having gay parents. gay parents are just like straight parents, they don't think differently, they don't look different from others. the only differenece is that their the same sex. that doesn't make them less able to care for a child. i'm sure theres plenty of kids that wouldn't care having gay parents, all they want is a loving home, and parents that love them, no matter what sexual orientation they are.

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"Don't scare the poor thing. She probably lives in a convent, or is saving herself for Jesus or something along those lines. Information of the outside world could crush her hopes and dreams to smithereens. Be gentle, fragile minds break easily." --stupidity

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If anyone could move away from this "theological" talk for a moment, he or she would realize that in the civil institution of "marriage", there is more than meets the eye [of uninformed people]. As we all know (or as some of us deny, but really know), we live in a Republican Democracy where the law of the land is a secular document (a.k.a. the Constitution of the U.S. of A.).
Although words such as "marriage" are emotionally charged, "marriage" as a civil institution is doubtless a secular agreement between two individuals bound by a legal document (a.k.a. a "marriage license"). Nothing more. Now, I see people making points about the religious implications of "marriage". However, these, in a society that separates the powers of the Church and State, cannot be held into legal account. The truth is, technically, the State cannot, on the basis of Church prohibition, deny any two people of "entrance" into this institution. However, this does not take away the fact that this activity ("entering" marriage), does, in fact, come from a religious base. Civil marriage (no, not unions, you silly, silly misunderstanding people) is a legal contract. Never does legality explicitly imply any emotional connection (such as love, or hate, or gold-digging, &c).
Sure, gays may some day be granted the ability to participate in this. They'll enter a legal contract which does imply legal benefits, such as taxation or health benefits. But that's the only legitimacy they'll have.

**Though many may not agree with my beliefs, one cannot deny that the systems of this world are as ephemeral as the ideas they are set upon. Some day this system will come to pass and will be replaced by another. In the end, the end which I believe in, we will be accountable for our own lives (and the lives of those we affected).

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"First off the couples did not break the law because the mayor of san fran made same sex marriage legal, whether the state chooses to charge anyone it would have to be the mayor he technically broke the law, not the couples, and as martin luther king said, 'UNJUST LAWS MUST BE BROKEN!'"

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Technically, you're correct. The [I]COUPLES[I/] did not "break" the law. If anything, an investigation of how the mayor was (if he was, or if he acted alone) induced to "break" the law would be necessary to find the [ir]responsible parties. On the other side of the issue is, exactly what does happen if this law is broken? California Family Code Section 308.5 simply states "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." And that's it. It doesn't say what is to be done if someone breaks this law. However, it does say that their "marriage" documents are void, simply because the recipients are of the same sex. I guess to them this is punishment enough[?].

It's supposed to say "Welcome to last week" but the bottom half of "week" was cut off. It was like this on the site I got it from too.