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Registered: January 16, 2003
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I got this from womansmedia.com "How much money are you losing because you’re not paid fairly? Most working women today, if they’re over thirty, would probably blurt out: No. A man would be getting more. Their intuitive sense is borne out by the facts. Women working full time—not part time, not on maternity leave, not as consultants—still earn only 77 cents for every full-time male dollar. The wage gap has been stalled for more than a decade. It exists between women and men working at every economic level, from waitresses to corporate lawyers, from nurse’s aides to CEOs. Very few individual women can ever find out exactly what their male counterparts would be making in the same job. But that yawning gap between the average male and average female paycheck is a pretty good clue that he’d be paid more. If you’re a woman, what would you do with that extra 23 cents—an increase of nearly one-third on top of your current 77-cent paycheck—a raise that got you even with men? That 23-cent gender wage gap is a personal gap in each woman’s life: vacations not taken, or dental work that’s put off, or lessons that her children are denied. Few women think about it this way. Women don’t talk about what they should have earned, or how each year’s missing lump of money—whether one thousand, ten thousand, or fifty thousand—would have added up over her lifetime. Surely that attitude is personally sensible: no sane person wants to dwell on what she believes she can’t have. But we’re not going to close the gender wage gap until women realize how much it’s costing us and our families. So let’s add it up over a lifetime: * If you’re a young woman who graduated last summer from high school, you will earn $700,000 less than the young man standing in line with you to get his diploma over your working life. * If you graduated from college, you’ll lose $1.2 million compared to the man getting his degree along with you. * If you graduated from law school, medical school, or got an MBA last summer, you’ll lose $2 million over your lifetime. That money represents food you can’t buy, credit cards you can’t pay off, lessons your children won’t have, retirement savings you can’t put away." What is your opinion on this? Do you think it's fair? What do you think can be done to change this? Or are things always going to be this way no matter what woman say? If you're a guy, would you be willing to try and change it or you could care less?
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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Evidently RC is a tad deluded and thus probably not worth arguing with.
L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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quote: My jaw literally dropped and my mind was all "Oh no he didn't!"
My thoughts exactly. :P
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: January 15, 2006
Posts: 484
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quote: Originally posted by YouthVoice: quote: P.S. Men don't want a career woman, they want a wife.
Ahahahahaha! I'm sorry, but I just couldn't stop myself from laughing at this comment. It's simply hilarious.
My jaw literally dropped and my mind was all "Oh no he didn't!"  Whatever. People with messed up ideas like that about marriage never find anyone desperate enough to legally bind themselves to 'em. Or they get slipped some arsenic in their wife's homemade fried chicken.
~*The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist fears this is true.
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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quote: (Note: I do actually want to work, so don't anyone jump on me for being a lazy prick.)
Got ya. :P
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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If my wife makes the money, it means I don't have to work. See the benefits of a career woman as a wife? (Note: I do actually want to work, so don't anyone jump on me for being a lazy prick.)
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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quote: Men don't want a career woman, they want a wife.
Its people like you that make me happy that I am not into guys.
draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: December 27, 2006
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quote: Tough. Im not interested in PC
I'm not asking you to be politically correct, Mister. I'm asking you to be considerate. As your excuse for using it was gay people might not be offended, I said I was. And I think I count as a partial gay person, thank you. So be nice. I don't care about being politically correct; but I do care about forum ediquitte. quote: Men don't want a career woman, they want a wife.
I wouldn't mind having a career woman. After all. If I love her, why should I give a damn about what makes her happy? I do not dictate her life.
...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: January 16, 2003
Posts: 12687
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quote: P.S. Men don't want a career woman, they want a wife.
Ahahahahaha! I'm sorry, but I just couldn't stop myself from laughing at this comment. It's simply hilarious.
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: December 10, 2005
Posts: 202
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quote: Use the full term or I'll assume it was derogatory. I was offended by it.
Tough. Im not interested in PC. No 'ginger-bread persons' 'maintainence hole covers' and 'physiological disenfranchisation' thanks. If you are offended then is your fault, not mine. quote: They don't have to do anything. They do because thats what society expects of them. Society is often wrong.
Hehe, 'We are all equal comrades! May we divide up the people to die equally between the babies, women and men.'. Im not going to say thats sick, cos its pointless. Its a twisted world. No strip clubs! Its exploitation of women, and capitalist! All men must spend equal amount of time mothering their children as their wives do! Women onto the national draft! quote: That's based on your personal opinion, not a fact
. That is based on societies standard mode. It couldn't possibly be a fact. "Only Men should fight on the front line" is not a fact. It is called 'being normal', and not 'entertaining fantasy'. May you have your career, my dear. But may you not wait until your fields are fallow to accept your conventional role. P.S. Men don't want a career woman, they want a wife. You can all reject the nature of mankind, and reject the reality of mens and womens roles. But just like the fantasy of communism, its intrinsic flaws will bring it to its knees.
Say no to commies!
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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quote: Men earn more than women because when we're all stuck on a big boat that has hit an iceberg and theres not enough lifeboats, women and children get saved and men gotta stay on and drown.
Haha!
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: October 28, 2005
Posts: 5354
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GAH! Bad grammar! It should read " A  ,  , or is also helpful." Oh and thanks Shade...I think.
draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: December 27, 2006
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LTR, you're so funny.
...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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quote: erm obviously i was being sarcastic, perhaps i should add [sarcastic] tags wherever necessary.
Yes. Those are helpful. A  ,  or  are also helpful Also, I did apologize and take back my statement.
draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: December 14, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by LoveTheRainbow: Thats a load of crap.
erm obviously i was being sarcastic, perhaps i should add [sarcastic] tags wherever necessary.
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Then I apologize and take back my statement.
draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6044
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Humor, LTR. That was humor.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: October 28, 2005
Posts: 5354
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quote: Men earn more than women because when we're all stuck on a big boat that has hit an iceberg and theres not enough lifeboats, women and children get saved and men gotta stay on and drown.
Thats a load of crap. They don't have to do anything. They do because thats what society expects of them. Society is often wrong.
draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: December 14, 2006
Posts: 119
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Men earn more than women because when we're all stuck on a big boat that has hit an iceberg and theres not enough lifeboats, women and children get saved and men gotta stay on and drown.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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quote: Er... Oh, you think Im 'stereotyping' now. Is men beer a valid statement? Yes, because they do. Its is valid (and don't give me that "Not ALL men so its not valid nonsense). And muslim women do like having large families, it is part of their culture. Would you like me to provide a source for men liking beer? No? Well heres one saying the average number of children muslims women has is 6.
Thank you for your source.
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