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Registered: April 30, 2003
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I've been reading a lot of the boards lately and it seems like all I see is "Im a Christian and you are too but you don't act like one." "You are a horrible Christian" "You need to get right with God" "You make a bad name of Christianity"

bla bla bla on and on. Why are we as Christians acting like this to one another? Arn't we supposed to love with Christ's love - which conquers over ALL? Yeah I think we should be careful about how we live our lives - but is it our place to judge other "Christians"? Isn't that God's job?
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This is our world.
Registered: December 29, 2002
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What kind of a world is this when people turn on other people?

Bye N have a nice day
Registered: April 20, 2003
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Some are living up to Christianity, and others are being hypocritical. That's the way the world is. But what kind of a world is it when people of the same religion start turning on eachother? It's a world gone twisted.
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Who's judging? Who is telling Gemini, "Be gone, you are going straight to Hell?"

Haha, a lot of people, Joey. Where have you been?
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Simply pointing out that one particular doctrine, or an entire sect/denomination/branch of "Christianity" is not, in fact, Christianity, is not "judging."

No, but proclaiming foreign doctrines wrong and "stupid" because they're a bit different from yours is judging.
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It's stating the facts; it's presenting a differing view, one full of facts for the most part.

Stating facts and blatantly bashing someone's elses views and/or assuming their beliefs are two completely different items.
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Calling someone's practice pagan is not "judging." Geez.

It is when you know nothing of the religion or what the word "pagan" means Wink
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If it goes against the Bible, it's NOT CHRISTIAN! That's not judging, THAT'S WARNING!

That's Bible-Belt preaching. Your warning means nothing. And that's not judging; those are the facts.
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It's almost pointless to keep debating this, but for some reason in my mind, I might just ignite a little spark in someone's mind so that they'll see

We all have our reasons for doing things. I most likely won't change anyone's beliefs, and I don't wish to. I simply want people to realize that there are people who exist that have differing opinions, and that because those opinions are different, they're not automatically wrong.
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I think that judging is God's job and no one elses. If I we see a Christian who is down we should help them get up instead of putting them down.


Who's judging? Who is telling Gemini, "Be gone, you are going straight to Hell?"



Simply pointing out that one particular doctrine, or an entire sect/denomination/branch of "Christianity" is not, in fact, Christianity, is not "judging."

It's stating the facts; it's presenting a differing view, one full of facts for the most part.

Calling someone's practice pagan is not "judging." Geez.

If it goes against the Bible, it's NOT CHRISTIAN! That's not judging, THAT'S WARNING!

Sigh.

It's almost pointless to keep debating this, but for some reason in my mind, I might just ignite a little spark in someone's mind so that they'll See.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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yes it is, it makes me feel so sorry for you, sorry you are unable to use your mind, think for yourself. I wish I could help, but I unlike you see no need to drill my message into your head. Either you have free will or you don't, some people take drugs and some people pray to god, we all have our own little ways of coping with life....I guess. Do what you have to, if annoying everyone around you is your thing...keep it up...

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i do not criticize him or anyone else about their lifestyle... i just tell them what i believe


which in most cases consists of how wrong we are and how we need god, which is......criticism and obnoxious
Registered: April 24, 2003
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i know what he was saying, and i never negated the fact that he has just as much right to voice his opinion about it. i was merely making a suggestion. i do not criticize him or anyone else about their lifestyle... i just tell them what i believe, and what i believe they should do. if they don't accept it, i can't do anything more.

god bless,
jazzman
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do you think i give a rip what you tell me? i am going to keep preaching the word of god on and off this site, and if you don't like it, don't read it.


I think Billy's saying that when you constantly "preach" to those who've already heard the "word of god" rhetoric, it gets annoying to those who don't believe in your god. You can preach all you want, but it might offend others. So if you can voice your opinions about god and his love, etc., then Billy has just as much right to voice his opinions about god not existing, etc.
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Registered: March 30, 2003
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Go jazzman! you told him! Big Grin
Registered: April 24, 2003
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do you think i give a rip what you tell me? i am going to keep preaching the word of god on and off this site, and if you don't like it, don't read it. i am not a holier than thou kind of guy, by the way. i just know what's what and i live by it. if that's not your thing, fine. but stop giving me crap about it. it's not doing you any harm.

god bless,
jazzman
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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Listen up chowder head, is it possible for you to talk about anything else? The constant barage of this holier then thow attitude turns many more people off then you think. It is hard to listen to someone when they only have one thing to talk about.....
Registered: April 24, 2003
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i am not forcing you to read this, let alone follow my religion. therefore, i am not brainwashing you or anyone else on this website. some people want to hear what i've got to say. many others don't. if you aren't one of those people, don't listen. all i can do is tell you what's what and if you don't agree with that, it is out of my hands. your argument grows old quickly as well, bud.

god bless,

jazzman
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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geminiangel521
Girl, I don't think she meant to say that Christians are the only people Christians should respect and love. She noticed that there was alot of critizisim among them in here so she's only bringing up a point, one side of the story. I also agree with you that we should respect not only Christians but also people who don't believe as we do. Big Grin Smile Wink
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So Christians should only love and respect other Christians? What kind of BS is that?
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yep. we can't judge other ppl. as a christian, we're suppose to learn from each other.
after all, we're a family.
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this website is a part of our ministry. though it doesn't especially have a strong affect on most people here, if we could only reach one or two, our job would be worth the while



You sound like a cult leader, this website is nothing to you, it is for everyone to come here and express views and share ideas, the problem with you is your idea is the only one that is right. No one will listen to you, because we aren't all stupid little kids, we know that there is nobody on this planet who is right, especially someone who needs to drill a message into our heads constantly(form of brainwashing).

Please stop, it's old and getting annoying
Registered: April 24, 2003
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i know exactly what you guys mean... please, you don't have to point it out to me that i've been slightly hypocritical lately. just give up a prayer or two for me, and that will be more than enough. i have just been posting more malitious arguments, and that is not doing what god has asked. the way i see it, this website is a part of our ministry. though it doesn't especially have a strong affect on most people here, if we could only reach one or two, our job would be worth the while. this is a wonderful subject to start n4j. good thinking.

god bless,
jazzman
Registered: December 29, 2002
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I agree N4J and I also agree with Y-Voice!!!!!!!!!

Um, I'm not Christain but I know what your talking about.

Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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I agree with you completely on that issue. I think that judging is God's job and no one elses. If I we see a Christian who is down we should help them get up instead of putting them down. Smile Big Grin Smile
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