Has anyone else noticed how many negative and hateful images of women are depicted in our music, TV, movies, etc.? If I hear ONE MORE song about "'hos" or see ONE MORE commercial for another "comedy" about some jerks trying to score with bimbos... GRRR!!! I think that it's caused young boys and men these days to have even less respect and even greater hatred of women than their fathers! I can't tell you how often I've actually heard guys saying that women are just for sex and should never have any power... (at least in the past men were expected to act like "gentlemen"!) I think this is a sign that we're moving backwards in the push for more women's rights. What do you think?
I think the media plays a huge role in how women think they should look like, causing them to have eating disorders. They're told everyday, "OMG look at that celebrity, she's georgeous!" and then they hear "So and so is packing on a few pounds for their next movie, not very flattering." I'm sorry, but that makes even me want to go stick my finger down my throat.
quote: So no wonder men don't act like "gentlemen"--its because women don't act like "ladies." The two go hand in hand. If your looking for a gentlman, be a proper lady. If you want to prove that you are independent, or stronger than a man, the men are going to have a hard time figuring out where they belong, what is there job if not to take care of their wife
Feminists don't (so far as I've noticed) push the idea that men are useless. They push the idea that every person, regardless of sex, has value and purpose and strength.
Gender equality doesn't go hand in hand with gender stereotypes. Gender stereotypes ("gentleman" and "lady") have this amazing way of creating inequality among people (and can I mention yet again, that there are more than two sexes).
I'm a man (well, adolescent boy-whatever) and I don't think partnerships involve one person caring for the other like a dependent child. That's weird. My job isn't to take care of my girlfriend (or boyfriend--gender stereotypes also neglect the fact that not everyone is hetero) anymore than it's her job to take care of me. My job is to be myself, live my life and act loving, open and respectful with whoever I might want to share my time and my life with.
quote: If you opena clothing catalog, you will see as many bare-chested "ripped" guys as youll see toned women. its human nature to gravitate towards people who are easy on the eye
Guys don't lose the same respect because of being objectified in popular culture. Guys are not often called ****s for sleeping around, for example, but girls are. In our culture, it's okay for guys to be sex objects and still be worthy of respect, but not the other way around. No male power is lost by papering the world with pictures of half-naked men.
Also, the media is what creates our physical ideal and what the media portrays is only one kind of extreme beauty that not too many people match. If it were like a hundred years ago, porn magazines would be full of fat, curvy women and that would be the sexiest thing ever because that was the ideal back then.
I admitt, I wish guys these days were more gentleman-like. Its almost like now guys dont have the courage to ask a girl to dinner or something. But then I have to stop and think--what kind of message are women sending to men? Ever since women have started to push for their own rights, they send out the message that they dont need men. Feminists say they are stronger then men, they don't need men. So no wonder men don't act like "gentlemen"--its because women don't act like "ladies." The two go hand in hand. If your looking for a gentlman, be a proper lady. If you want to prove that you are independent, or stronger than a man, the men are going to have a hard time figuring out where they belong, what is there job if not to take care of their wife. I'm not saying I agree with this, or like this, I'm just saying thats the way it is. Who'd of thought that women's push for equality would drive men even lower, forcing them to either try even harder to prove they're better then women, making the women think they are worse, putting them in an even LOWER position, or forcing them to give up all together.
I am soo sick of everyone talking about how women are portryed in the media. "Thats so degrading", or "What about womens rights". I am a girl, an i think that some women only want womens rights if it suits their purposes. I mean inorder to "objectify" women, they have to find women to pose, and act. People say they want "real" women but who do theyhave doingthese things? Holograms? I mean, yes the media does say that a person who is pretty will have a better life, but in a way, thats true. I mean you don't see the pretty people complaing about these thing. and another thing. If you opena clothing catalog, you will see as many bare-chested "ripped" guys as youll see toned women. its human nature to gravitate towards people who are easy on the eye. I mean i don't care, but if some majorly ugly guy that i had never known before asked me on a date i would be likely to say no. i am not vain, and i am CERTAINLY NOT one of the pretty people. I am large, and my teeth are crooked, but i am not going to complain about people who have the looks, or the money to get the looks, because of it.
I definately feel that women are portrayed in a bad light in the media. Can anyone out there name five, or even one recent movie or commercial where the women in it are completely gorgeous and act like skanks or ditzes, or not as gorgeous women who are portrayed as being the smart geeky ones. I am absolutely apalled by what I have been seeing . Women are not always as they appear on the outside! I have many friends who are both attractive and intelligent, and many who feel they are not as attractive, and don't get very good grades. I believe that a person should not be judged by their outward appearances, and that the people who control what goes into the media need to recognize that! Unfortunately, I can understand where the media gets these images from. They have been portrayed for quite a while now... and I think that now that they are appearing in bulk, people are beginning to notice. What I don't understand, however, is how these stereotypes originated! Women who our culture finds sexy or attractive are not always ditzy and unintelligent. Women who may not be considered attractive are not always "geeks" or the sharpest crayons in the box. Our media has simply adapted a very negative image of women... and I think that we need to find something we can do about it.
I have seen through personal experience where guys who want to be portray as popular and in style have forced their girlfriends to wear skimpy clothes and act like strippers when at a club or dance. I had a friend, we'll call her Sue, who was dating a guy ,Pete, for almost a year. Pete was well-known for his hip hop style and "pimped out" car. Whenever she would go out into public, he made her wear low cut, mid drift and sometimes backless shirts with tight low rise so that her thong, which he bought for her, would show. She was sentenced to this kind of sexisism for almost a year, and actually hated it. She never told him that because she didn't want to lose his "love" for her. In fact, he loved her so much that he cheated on her with a married 19 year old girl who lived a few blocks away from him. She broke up with him for that, but within a week was back with him. She caught him again with that girl, and broke up with him for good. She was heartbroken that she had changed herself to fit in with his "crew" and had lost her virginity to him because he told her how much he loved her, and how they would get married someday when he would leave her house and go straight to his other girlfriends house. I knew this was going on for sometime, but she chose to not believe me and that I was jealous of her relantionship with him because I was at the time single. She chose his "love" over our almost 10 years of friendship. When I started to date my current boyfriend, she tried to convince me that I needed revealing clothes and a ****ty personality to keep him faithful. When I told her that I could wear a paper bag and he would still love me, she just laughed and said that she would give us 2 weeks before we broke up because I wouldnt give him what he wanted. It's been 2 months now, and I still have his love. Our love isn't one made up of thongs, pimpin cars, and sex. He and I both are not virgins yet we chose to abstain from sex until we were both ready. To this day, she is seeing guys exactly like Pete, and dresses like a stripper to get boyfriends. Because of Pete, she believes to be attractive you must walk around half naked, shaking your assests in order to get guys, which we all know isn't true. You attract guys by your personality, smile, and with some guys looks. Guys in our age, like to talk about their "****ty girlfriends", but almost always end up marrying nice, girls who wear clothes.
OKAY IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW I FEEL HERE IT IS. BEING A HIGHSCHOOL YOUNG LADY I WANT TO BE RESPECTED AND IF I WERE TO WALK AROUND IN SKANKY LITTLE THINGS AROUND SCHOOLS I WOULD HAVE GUYS TALKING TO ME BUT I WOULD NOT BE RESPECTED. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN STYLE BUT STILL BE TASTEFUL. I THINK ALL THIS STUFF ON TV ABOUT NEEDING TO BE SLIM AND EVERYTHING TO FIT IN IS JUST A BUNCH OF BULL TO GET ALL OF US GIRLS DOWN. ESPCIALLY IN HIGHSCHOOL IT IS THE WORST. I CAN SAY THIS CUS I HAVE BEEN THERE. BUT IF PEOPLE ARE YOUR TRUE FRIENDS THERY LOVE AND CARE FOR YOU NO MATTER WHAT.
i can't stand how women are treated like objects in every aspect of life. i can't turn on the television without seeing a half-naked woman (or a woman wearing barely any clothing). i see so many girls walking around in these short clothes and tight clothes demanding attention. guess what? this society is to blame!
women have just as much rights as men do. i totally think that the media is to blame for all the misogyny in our world today. these rappers are going around calling women all these dirty names and making it seem like we are only on this planet to serve men and to do everything that men tell us to do. WRONG! television shows young women in commercials with tight, short clothes on shaking their hips and stuff like they are just eye candy for men and don't have any intelligence or any brains whatsoever. we need to stand up to the media's push on misogyny and objectification of women. i don't think that it's going to get better without a fight.
there are so many boys i know that are treating women terribly. they beat up their girlfriends, they abuse them verbally, sexually, and physically, and they call them derrogatory names like they hear on television and in rap songs. i'm sorry, but i have a name, and that's the only thing i answer to. i am not a female dog, and i don't sell myself, so i don't want to be called names that reflect such an attitude. also, i think that boys learn to disrespect women from the media and all the stuff that they hear around them.
to make a long story short, misogyny needs to stop, and the only way it will is for our generation to put a stop to it ourselves.
(females seeking eye candy) ladies! marvel at the half naked male body. females, one and all, watch videos of men and their swinging menhood! so sexy, no? I say females because YOU- yes females- are the target audience! So call in and adore, drool and converse at the lunch table about the gorgeous physic of the testosterine blessed body!
(males) do you feel exploited and used? sold as a piece of beef? ugly and cheap? Sell your body to MTV now and demand respect! take off your clothes than demand respect for your mind and soul, and say more with your pecks and abs than your dull brain could ever say!
(unisex) have something important to say? take off your clothes and discuss it? others will listen and contemplate your message with serious reverence and thoughtfullness! especially if it concerns sexism!
Ironically, I think Feminism is to blame in many ways for some of the misogyny we see in American culture. Chivalry, Sexual restraint and other aspects of our society were rejected by the Women’s Liberation movement. At the same time, many feminists began to preach Sexual Liberation, that Pornography was “Empowering” to women, and that Men were not different than Women outside of their Gender (despite the obvious psychological and mental differences between Men and Women*). As a result, many men became promiscuous, rude or confused around women. That isn’t to say that Feminism hasn’t helped end rampant Sexism towards women in the Workplace or Schools, but it has caused its own set of problems unintentionally.
*This is not to imply that either Gender is better or worse than the other. It’s just that there are obvious differences in the way Men and Women act, think and behave that have been shown to be increasingly the result of nature rather than society.
i think the way women are portrayed on television is bad, and its only going to get worse. but for now the best thing we can do is make sure we are ourselves are not acting like idiots. show men that they are wrong about women,dont give them the idea, reason or chance to bring us down.
I am also extremely frustrated. I was appaled when Snoop waltzed into the MTV Video Music Awards with two big busted women on leashes. What is he trying to say? What message are we showing the world? That women are merely subservient pets? I am so tired of men calling women "accesories." I am so tired of sexist remarks. For goodness sake, we are living in the 21st century. People need to wake up and realize that they cannot continue to treat women like they are second-class citizens. It also doesn't make sense that the tv networks can cancel Banzai after like two episodes, yet they can't cancel The Man Show, that's been airing since who knows when. Just the other day, I was in the company of my friends younger brother and his buddies. They were watching Titanic just so that they could get a glimpse of Rose's breasts. They were talking about women like they were a piece of meat. Sexism is so primitive.
I agree...I think for a certain group of people who listen to that type of music it is setting women back. I listen to rap and I joke about stuff like that...because I don't see how anyone can take it serious. But yes some people do...and it's sad.
In media, degrating woman is often done as comedy. However, this is generally not a part of real life. I dont know of one person who would treat a woman differently...as an object for sex, or any other reason. Sure, men DO have hormones that are going to act up occasionaly, but its not intended to be negative. As far as being negatively influenced by media, I think the person already has that idea in their minds. I watch a lot of TV and see a lot of negativity, but it doesn't ware off on me. I know what my thoughts are and some retarded show isn't going change them. When women are being put down, this is a chance for them to rise. They come back and show that they dont have to go down the the level of putting someone down for any reason. Women have advanced over the years as stronger individuals through stereotypes and negativity.
I agree with both sides of this issue. I agree completely that the image that most Tv, music, and movie stars portray is one of female sexuality. However, I do respect these women's(and young girls actually)choice to do whatever they want. But you have consider the fact that they are in public eye. This SHOULD make them think about what they're are going to wear and how they are going to behave. No matter if they should have an affect on teen girls or not...they do. I also agree that perhaps the movie business higher ups or the TV producers should consider making a female character who is attractive physically, because it is true that less would people would want to look at them if they were bad looking, but also has some kind of moral and ethical values and strength. I think that they have attempted to get this across with the manifestation of this into female physical strenth in things like Alias or Trinity in The Matrix. This is a step, but I think that teen girls would relate to a female character, who would be strong in the face of a situation they themselves may once run into, better then they could seeing a woman simply beat a guy up. Teen girls need to know that they can be independent, wonderful, and totally kick-butt women without wearing tight leather and knowing how to shoot a gun, but instead by having a strong sense of self and knowing that they can do anything they put their minds to.
It'd also be good to actually pay attention to who makes up most of our mainstream media to figure out why there's this "hatred" of men, values, family units, etc.
Much of the maintream media, beit newspapers, TV networks, are filled with leftist gay, pro-feminist, pro-choice, gun-control, welfare state proponents. This is a fact and it is evident by our society.
A journalist is a very powerful tool. They can shape, craft and mold public opinion.
And unfortunately, society has taken a nose-dive into the left-wing side of everything.