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Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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I read this somewhere, and it made me think. I'd like for you guys to discuss what comes to mind and what you think about this and your reasons.

"Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?"

Discuss.


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
Picture of re23magic
Registered: June 18, 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by ampmaster:
Has any one ever considered that we all have two hands? why can't I hold a gun while a I hold hands with someone?


I totally agree with you. lol
Picture of spooker23
Registered: July 19, 2008
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I think society ahs kind of labeled gay mariage as being wrong and that is why two men usually don't let people see them holding hands. I have two friends that are gay and I'm totally okay with it but they will not tell anybody else.

They are terrified of what people may think. I think it's easier to get your head around the fact that someone is holding a gun becasue we see it on T.V and in movies.
Picture of LEK2129
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Its seen more often.
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Registered: June 09, 2008
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I am totally for gay marriage and dating and whatever else involving that..and just the other day I saw a gay couple holding hands..two men.
It didnt bother me..but my brother just stared.

But I think most people are comfortable with seeing two men holding guns than hands because society sees men as manly, bold, and just
the man stereotype and being gay demeans that.


-gaby [There are two great days in a person's life - the day we are born and the day we discover why. -William Barclay]
Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
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you rarely see any one holding hands (gay or straight)


Interestingly enough, I saw a gay couple holding hands in downtown Seattle the other weekend. I thought it was pretty cool, since it is pretty rare.


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Registered: October 22, 2007
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in america like most countries you rarely see any one holding hands (gay or straight) but you can see some one walking down the street holding a gun and no one thinks anything of it unless they pull it out and i am proud to say that (other than hunting) i would rather hold hands with a girl than a gun


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Has any one ever considered that we all have two hands? why can't I hold a gun while a I hold hands with someone?


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Because this is America, where 9 times out of 10, you're born with a gun in your hand, ready to shoot the doctor if he spanks you too hard.

I think the masculinity argument explains it. I'm too tired to think of exactly why.


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Picture of Miller315
Registered: June 06, 2007
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I would like to see more peace less guns but its going to be a hard battle to make it that way. First of all refering to the quote. In the literal sense two men holding hands. There is not much more to say about that seeing all the news about gay relationships. However i dont think that the quote was meant to be translated literally. I think that it is too hard for most humans to go against the crowd especially when the other crowd is holding guns. Its like the game red rosie or something where theres two lines of people facing each other both sides linked together. one team calls another person over and that person tries to break the link if they dont they have switched teams. one team is liked and is carrying guns and the other team is carrying tie dye peace signs. Everyone wants to be on the side that wins, the gun side.
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Registered: October 18, 2006
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Actually a few weeks ago I visited France, and it was completely common to see two guys walking down the street with their arms linked or holding hands as friends or as a couple. It seems that here guys have to fit this idea of masculinity exactly.

Although many times it's constantly talked about how much pressure our society has on girls (which it does too). There are also pressures on guys who always seem to be expected to do well in sports, be strong and overal viewed as tough. The strict sterotypes make it so that anything like hand holding would be "shocking". Its amazing that compassion can be viewed as not tough or manly... and sadly most people probably would be more used to seeing with guys with guns.
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