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Originally posted by ampmaster:

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They're both actually. :P

wrong! the jews as a people are semitic which is composed of a wide vareity of religions ranging from islam and kurdish to small out croppings of hinduism. Being semitic means you come from the area we now define as the middle east (not iran, iran is actually an aryan descendant nation unlike it's neighbors) besides I've actually asked several rabbis and a few anthropologists at the local college (and my jewish buddies family on top of that) and the general consensus of all these learned and respected people was jews = religion

Touche. I'll get you next time Amp! *shakes fist*

If anything, mixed race dating makes the cultures even MORE distinctive. You're more aware of your culture, and your mate's, when they're different.

I am still very Irish and somewhat Italian, and all-around a white chick. My girlfriend is 100% Japanese. She hasn't let go or forgotten about her Japanese heritage, and I know more about it as a result. The cultures will mix, yes, but they'll stay the same regardless.

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Clearly you are not familiar with the demographics of Cuba and Brazil. Clearly you are not aware of the Greenlandic people. Clearly you don't know of the Mexicans. You really think all of that was forced? En masse? All of it? The formation of the Kazakh people by the intermingling of Mongol and Turkic tribes, was that forced?

Not forced, but neither have their respective cultures been erased. Mexicans may have resulted from mixing of the Spanish with indigenous Mexican Indians, but Spanish and Mexican Indian cultures still exist. Your argument rests on the basis that race mixing will ultimately result in the erasure of distinctive cultures. This, however, has yet to happen. Even in the United States, the great "melting pot" that it is, distinct cultures still remain, no matter how mixed into other races people get.

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They're both actually. :P

wrong! the jews as a people are semitic which is composed of a wide vareity of religions ranging from islam and kurdish to small out croppings of hinduism. Being semitic means you come from the area we now define as the middle east (not iran, iran is actually an aryan descendant nation unlike it's neighbors) besides I've actually asked several rabbis and a few anthropologists at the local college (and my jewish buddies family on top of that) and the general consensus of all these learned and respected people was jews = religion

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Oooooo! How you like them apples! I got some backup? on YouthNoise? Wtf?!

No, I was just clarifying a point. You get no backup from me.

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Dude, you creep me out, I don't care if your blind, I don't really want to talk to you. Im sure everyone hates you equally too.

Nope, you're wrong. I'm sorry I can't say the same about you though.

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THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE A RELIGION NOT A RACE YOU MORON!
They're both actually. :P

Oooooo! How you like them apples! I got some backup? on YouthNoise? Wtf?!

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I'm a white anglo-saxon with a Turkish girlfriend...infact i've never dated an English girl.

Ive never met a Black "AngloSaxon"! For that matter, I don't think ive ever met an Anglosaxon full-stop. The Angles and Saxons were old tribes, I find it kind of odd we would still use this phrase. I believe the correct phrase is "Englishman" ;-). And I'd watch those Muslim woman, they want 6+ kids you know.

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We at the Shade Institute of Shadowy Trees are proud of you.

Dude, you creep me out, I don't care if your blind, I don't really want to talk to you. Im sure everyone hates you equally too.

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Clearly you don't recognize the difference between mixed race dating and forced breeding. Your comments don't really stand up unless we're talking about forcing everyone to interbreed. A handful of people dating other races is not going to result in anything drastic.

Clearly you don't recognise the grey area. Clearly you are not familiar with the demographics of Cuba and Brazil. Clearly you are not aware of the Greenlandic people. Clearly you don't know of the Mexicans. You really think all of that was forced? En masse? All of it? The formation of the Kazakh people by the intermingling of Mongol and Turkic tribes, was that forced?
As for in/out breeding, peak outbreeding is achieved with fairly small genealogical separation. Even with all the stigma, even cousins is normally enough to prevent degenerative inbreeding (not that I recommend it!). Selection mechanisms are responsible for the continued vitality of a race of people. Race is not a bad word people, you know. It has been made a bad word.
(And I will say clpo13, however ..er.. 'forcefull' I am in my arguments, and however mad I think some of your ideas are - I think not ill of you, just to be clear. Others - well, yes I do .).

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THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE A RELIGION NOT A RACE YOU MORON!

They're both actually. :P

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Maybe we should attack the JEWS because they think that only jews should marry jews. Maybe those jews should just marry out and destroy their race. That way their race will be dead and we can all cheer

this is the worst example in history. Racecar I'm going to spell this out for you in plainest terms possible. THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE A RELIGION NOT A RACE YOU MORON!

I'm a white anglo-saxon with a Turkish girlfriend...infact i've never dated an English girl.

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You really believe that? Suppose we performed this sicko race mixing until were all the same.

Clearly you don't recognize the difference between mixed race dating and forced breeding. Your comments don't really stand up unless we're talking about forcing everyone to interbreed. A handful of people dating other races is not going to result in anything drastic.

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Maybe NOTHING matters.

You've finally struck the heart of the matter. We at the Shade Institute of Shadowy Trees are proud of you.

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How about, there are no species except the animal species.

A note from the Animals Speak Team at SIST. They would like to communicate to you animals' resentment to this statement. They are many different kinds and many different species. And they would like to thank you for your willingness to learn this. A note from the teammembers in the AST. They would like to tell you that as defined by science, we are one race. Ethnicity is the term used to describe people from different regions.

A personal note from your friendly Shade, though. He would like to tell you that he hates everyone equally, and that no one should marry. It's a disgrace to water down your race like this and live on and on forever. But as an Aquarius, he finds that one of the defining traits of such people apply to him. He doesn't see gender and he doesn't see colour. He sees the individual. In fact, if you ask him if someone he just walked by was black or white, he couldn't be able to tell you. They're just a person.

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A double standard I myself hate. It no doubt results from the fact that whites have always been the advanced, dominant race, so minorities which have been oppressed by whites in the past feel that whites don't need to stand up for their rights, or some similar sort of flawed logic. That's where affirmative action came from, which I loathe with a passion.

I don't get you clpo13. You'd better watch that dominant race stuff! Thats thought crime! We are all exactly the same you know! 2 + 2 = 5 and all that.

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An isolated group will inevitably shrink due to death and infertility and without new material introduced into the gene pool, it will disappear all on its own. Or at the very least, grow horribly mutated from all the inbreeding.

You really believe that? Suppose we performed this sicko race mixing until were all the same. Then where do we get our outbreeding from? Chimpanzees and Gorillias? LOL to the max.
You know sheep and goats can have offspring? True fact, and food for thought. Maybe NOTHING matters.

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We have to learn to fight our own humanity.

I think that officially makes you an evil orwell-1984 style man. Fight yours, ill keep mine.

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to say that your "kind" is going to wiped out is sooo wrong!

Its happened before, 1 case required to disprove.

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seems like no one ever complains when a white man dates a oriental girl.

Ive never heard a complaint about a black-white couple either, people are cowards.

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I dont even see how this is an issue. Black and white people are the same

Of course, there is no race but the human race. How about, there are no species except the animal species.
"Dobermans and Dalmations have 4 legs, both bark, both have a tail, and both are dogs. But they don't have any differences. They are both exactly the same. I just don't get it".

And now for my piece. The idea that racism extends to whom we date is a perversion. Maybe we should attack the JEWS because they think that only jews should marry jews. Maybe those jews should just marry out and destroy their race. That way their race will be dead and we can all cheer. WHAT SICK, DISTURBED INDIVIDUAL WOULD SAY THAT!
But if were just talking about whites than its OK. Death to the beourgeios whitey, may coloured people rise up and crush him.

Some of you don't realise quite how disgusting you are. That doesn't apply to all of you.

I dont even see how this is an issue. Black and white people are the same, both can be 'thuggs' or college graduates. I dont see whats difference between races. They both walk up right, and speak all the same. I dont get how we are all different how there is an 'us' and a 'them', I just dont get it.

In all honesty I come from a small town and a small school with mostly white people. I haven't had a lot of interaction with people of other races so I am awkard around them and watch what I say very carefully so I don't offend anyone. But I don't think interracial dating is wrong. We are all human and we all have feelins and if two people of different races have feelings for each other, they are entitled to that. One of my favorite songs is Long Way to Go by Gwen Stefani (with Andre 3000) about interracial love. It's a depiction of how people don't always consider themselves a 'racist' but they think interracial relationships are wrong.

to say that your "kind" is going to wiped out is sooo wrong! wat is the problem with dating someone from another race! if you like them why not? its no one elses business. well...i have noticed that when we say interracial dating we are always talking about black and white!!! it seems like no one ever complains when a white man dates a oriental girl....OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!

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Adding to the problem would be following these crazy social laws that people made up. Race shouldn't matter. You are making it matter.

EXACTLY

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My worry is that my people will disappear. My kind. I know you like to say "it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter", but being tribal and standing up for the existence of your kind is human and innate.

Yes, tribalism is an innate part of being human. It is also an excellent path towards massive destruction. Our instincts are not ethical and "good" just because they're natural. We have to learn to fight our own humanity.

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My worry is that my people will disappear. My kind. I know you like to say "it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter", but being tribal and standing up for the existence of your kind is human and innate.

It really doesn't matter. We're all humans. My kind, so to speak, is humanity. Bickering among tribes (or races) is pointless. Sooner or later, races are going to have to mix. Either that, or one race is going to have to wipe out all the others. You can't stay separate forever. That's a fact of life. An isolated group will inevitably shrink due to death and infertility and without new material introduced into the gene pool, it will disappear all on its own. Or at the very least, grow horribly mutated from all the inbreeding.

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And why is it that white people always get attacked for racism whenever they stand up for their rights, but not non-whites (or muslims and jews?).

A double standard I myself hate. It no doubt results from the fact that whites have always been the advanced, dominant race, so minorities which have been oppressed by whites in the past feel that whites don't need to stand up for their rights, or some similar sort of flawed logic. That's where affirmative action came from, which I loathe with a passion.

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i find everyones skin color beautiful

Then may we avoid race mixing, which leads to one skin colour.

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So because everyone is sticking to their race you must too?

Well hey, If you don't stand up for your race, the white man will. Unless your white, in which case that would be racist. (well hey, thats how it is in places where ive lived)

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By the way, Caucasian, anthropologically speaking, refers to people who trace their ancestry

...to the caucasus mountains? Yep.

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As I was saying, regarding genetic differences, variations in humans which we group together as "races" are just regional adaptations. I cannot fathom why you are so worried about them.

You are welcome to your scientific stand-back interpretation. My worry is that my people will disappear. My kind. I know you like to say "it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter", but being tribal and standing up for the existence of your kind is human and innate.
I find it interesting that were one to say "I only date people of my race", one gets attacked as being racist. It makes one wonder if so called anti-racists do not want to destroy ALL races. And why is it that white people always get attacked for racism whenever they stand up for their rights, but not non-whites (or muslims and jews?). It would seem to me that anti-racism is turning into some bizzare anti-white racism.
Food for thought. Things seem to be one sided to me.