Staying out of it is different than conforming to their ideals.

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So because everyone is sticking to their race you must too?

No of course not, i chose to because i cant be fucked with people who have a chip on their shoulder, and i'm yet to meet someone in my community who doesn't. A lot of white people have the same chip too, I feel the best thing i can do is stay out.

So because everyone is sticking to their race you must too?

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It seems like it would be adding to the problem, if the pure race itself is confused then how confusing for a child would it be to mix them?

Adding to the problem would be following these crazy social laws that people made up. Race shouldn't matter. You are making it matter.

I dont often speak about it, argue about it, the groups make themselves, i dont mix in the groups. I'm sorry but I'm not part of the problem and I never will be, I love my race and I dont see that I'm doing anything wrong sticking to it. But i've been racially attacked before and its totally ironic, i did nothing to cause it, once i was buying a sandwich. And when i have to feel victimised in my country because of my race, that's not cool for me, because of some stupid fad amongst kids who think its gangsta to be rude.

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It seems like it would be adding to the problem, if the pure race itself is confused then how confusing for a child would it be to mix them?

Adding to the problem would be following these crazy social laws that people made up. Race shouldn't matter. You are making it matter.

I think theres a serious catch to every race. A minority race entering into a country where they feel like a complete outsider means they'll always be fighting, and in turn when people exclude them from something and they'll blame it on their skin colour. When sometimes it isn't. I believe it gives one "a chip on the shoulder" and I believe that the feelings have been passed down from generation to generation and it gets progressively more aggressive, so sometimes there is more to it than skin colour.
This afternoon I went to the cinema, and there were indians talking to a security guard about how hard it is being indian (even though I live in a majority indian community)i find it important to note they were fashion victims or, ghettos, basically I find it important to say, this didnt surprise me.
Okay, added to this, the fashion victim way of race here where i live is, you dress a way and hang out with people of your skin colour and try not to mix too much with others. On top of this, dark black people described as "blick" here, dont usually mix with light skinned black people. Mixed-race people are either in one group or the other.

For me, all of this contraversy means I couldn't have a mixed race baby. I have a lot of close black friends, and a lot of them are nice people and attractive, but i couldn't reproduce with them.
It seems like it would be adding to the problem, if the pure race itself is confused then how confusing for a child would it be to mix them?

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i find everyones skin color beautiful

hey thanks youthvoice and im happy to be here

Unless you're the blue man from the five people you meet in heaven.

I find our skin colors exceedingly dull.

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i find everyones skin color beautiful

As do I. By the way, welcome to YN carameloshorty.

i know some ppl may think racism will end but it won't i don't need facts, it's just common sense. when in the world we live in we have african americans who hate caucasian because of slavery even though they were not born during that time they feel they have that right and they do, even though that right is wrong and i am an african americam mixed with alot of other things, then we have caucasians who hate or dislike african americans because they feel inferior, next we have the hispanics {mexican, spaniards, puerto ricans, columbians,cuban, dominicans,ect.} who have hate among each other
for very stupid reasons eaxmple my very close columbian friend hates my mexican friend simply for the fact that he is mexican, he told me that if he were anthoner race any race but mexican he would be alright. my puerto rican friend hated my mexican ex boyfriend{we didn't break up cause of his race we broke up cause he was a two timin cheater}lol but my ex bf had no problem with puerto rican friend they're others examples i have but they're personal. then you have asian women who have self hated who think of caucasians as gods, next you have in the african americans one who think of darker ppl as ugly and vice versa they're so many examples to give but so little time to talk about all of them me personally i think every person as a crayon, none of us are different but the same in a different way, i don't know how many of you believe in God, {i do} but God says he made us all in the image of himself. and for the ones who say they're not racist, but they're just not into race mixing ask yourself why, and whats so bad about it? also no one living today is all one race, everyone is mixed with something else you just don't know it. i find everyones skin color beautiful and besides under that skin color everyones organs are all the same color everyone has red and white blood cells, everyone has the same blood and same bone color so whats so different. yo get at me if you wanna talk more about this other other stuff because i have more to say concerning this issue but it's 3:43am in the morn and im tired, nighty night don't let the bed bugs bight

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I don't know. Why, do you find it difficult to tell if someone is east-asian? Do you find it difficult to tell if someone is Indian? Do you find it difficult to tell if someone is Caucasian? No you don't. But yes, where you draw the line at a race is up to you.

There is no discontinuous absolute in race. It exists on a continuum.
By the way, Caucasian, anthropologically speaking, refers to people who trace their ancestry to eastern Europe, parts of India, or northern Africa. I'm assuming you think it means "white".

As I was saying, regarding genetic differences, variations in humans which we group together as "races" are just regional adaptations. I cannot fathom why you are so worried about them.

I didn't say they were pure. But they haven't been completely wiped out, either.

Ironically, I did look at Wikipedia, just to see if there were any pure Aztecs left. Of course, that's a bit much to hope for after a few hundred years.

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My statistics say otherwise, RD. Apparently, 90% of the Aztec population was eliminated by disease, war, and Spanish extermination. The remaining population was oppressed and marginalized by the Spanish. I highly doubt they were completely absorbed into the Spanish race if they were hated so much.

Sorry, but if you consult good old wikipedia, their entry says most Mexicans are of mixed Spanish and indigenous ancestry. Doesn't seem to fit with a 'no-dissolution' theory, what?

I don't know. Why, do you find it difficult to tell if someone is east-asian? Do you find it difficult to tell if someone is Indian? Do you find it difficult to tell if someone is Caucasian? No you don't. But yes, where you draw the line at a race is up to you.

Isn't race technically an arbitrary classification? Yeah, there are some important genetic differences between people from different areas, but racial classifications are probably as difficult to define as specific and subspecific classifications in taxonomy.

RD - please learn the difference between "their" and "they're". You're irritating me.

If you scroll down, we are indeed also talking about race mixing. The notion that the concept of it being OK for two people of different races to date has nothing to do with race mixing is very perplexing. By the same logic, it would be fair to say that were races allowed to openly hate each other, it would not lead to racial conflict.

Communism was a large ideology, and was not only about the control of the means of production by the people. Assimilation of nations into the one nationless union was definately a part. You will note that on USSR maps, old nation-states like kazakstan disappeared. Nation and race are very close, and I have frequently heard people openly linking nationalism to racism. (Note Australian "One Nation" party).

If society is taught that it is OK to date interracially, (or worse, that it is better than dating intraracially - lets hope that doesn't happen), the stable state is a one-race society. You should note that the Jews exist as a semitic race, and that they have a marital racial separatist policy (jews are told to only marry jews).

My statistics say otherwise, RD. Apparently, 90% of the Aztec population was eliminated by disease, war, and Spanish extermination. The remaining population was oppressed and marginalized by the Spanish. I highly doubt they were completely absorbed into the Spanish race if they were hated so much. As a matter of fact, there still are indigenous people of Aztec ancestry living in Mexico. Not many, but still some.

I also fail to see how this is communism. Even if communism had anything to do with race (which I'm fairly sure it doesn't), it would have to involve forced interbreeding en masse. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about mixed race dating, i.e. two people of different races. Not one race assimilating another one. Two people. An isolated event. And it's especially not meant to eliminate race boundaries for the sake of eliminating race boundaries. I've no clue where you got that idea.

You know, people wanting races to disappear by interbreeding is relatively new, but its broader underlying concept is not: COMMUNISM.
Disolving nations removes wars and imperialism, dissolving races and making us all look exactly the same would eliminate all cultures and nations into the one communist union - therefore no war or imperialism. People who support this racial dissolution are unknowingly supporting the ideas of equality and communes which caused countless millions of deaths. But you'll laugh at this.

Well thats the basis of this crap anyway. I have a question for you all: have you ever met an Aztec? You know why? The spanish dissolved they're race - they did not exterminate them. One should note, however, that the Spaniards still exist. If you aim to wipe out races this way, or with concentration camps, you are only slightly less evil.
Get your heads round that!

A side note: Whos idea was it to equate skin colour with race? As though races only differ by skin colour.

In the end we're all humans, so if doesn't matter whether we end up with someone of a different "race" as long as there is real friendship, commitment, and love that we cannot find somewhere else. In my personal case, I'm completely besotted with a Chinese girl and I'm Latino.