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Registered: February 15, 2003
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Are you Islamaphobic?

Is terroism the first word which comes to mind on hearing 'Islam' or 'Muslim'?

Does the media portray Islam as it really is?

Why are all Muslims held ressponisible for the crimes of Bin-Ladin? Why should they suffer discrimination and hate on his behalf?

Do you think Islamic women are oppresed?

I'll let you get on with it then...
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Registered: November 07, 2008
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I think the Media is actually largely pretty liberal and left-wing and it goes out of its way to ensure political correctness in their messages.

Its just that there's a really narrow focus on acts of terrorism by fundamentalists as minority members of the broader Islam community. And so the major representation of Islam in the media is in association with terrorist acts. I don't think there's any agenda, unless its like the American Renaissance Journal. Now those guys provide some scary media.
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Registered: April 21, 2008
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You have a good and enlightened thesis. I just wanted to point something out. The case isnt that the media judges people as it sees, instead its that the media chooses what to see. The media sets the image.
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Registered: November 13, 2008
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well........ the media judges people as it sees’
I’m a Muslim and I haven't yet finished the Qur'an so I don’t know much about Islam but I know -some- about the media and people; And people judge by what the hear + what they see. So if Islam changes the image or if more people fallow the Qur’an as it is and not as they think. Then it would be different. – that’s what I believe.
*** P.S. – I’m writing a research paper in my English class and my thesis is below so if anyone wants to help or has any facts or ideas or even thinks I’m doing it wrong please write back or e-mail me in -- nadraaden@yahoo.com -- ***
Thesis: Although Islam does not teach the repression of women, some misinterpretations of the Qur’an lead to inequality between men and women; so Muslim leaders should honor and teach the true message of the Qur’an.
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Registered: December 18, 2005
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I know that I shouldn't stoop to their level but I have tried being rational about these things. I then realized that most people are either uneducated or else just close-minded and ignorant. There is no logical way to talk to them so why should I even bother trying? It will never work because most people in America are about as dumb as a sack of potatoes. U.U

I have to admit religious people scare me and I mean uber religious, the type that is convinced that if you don't think like them you will be tortured by their "merciful" god or allah or whoever.

Whatever happened to peace and just saying "well you and I don't look the same, speak the same or act the same so why do we have to think the same?" Muslims and Christians scare me because they threaten me and my lifestyle while I do not go out of my way to threaten them. It's just effed up and I wish that more people could understand that.

I don't try to hurt anyone, convince anyone or force anyone to do anything that goes against who they are or what they believe in. Why can't the majority of this world do the same? Just accept that not everyone will be happy following the same belief system as you. That's why I consider religion the root of all evil. It has hurt so many people.


i stand for love and peace!
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Registered: April 21, 2008
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I understand Wolfie. I myself have athiest friends and we discuss relgions and athiesm all the time.

Its true that people should respect your decision. But just like we've seen previously in history, whenever a new ideology that opposes the set beliefs of a society emerges or becomes more available to the public, it will be negatively criticized and those who believe in it will be look down upon. But since when has fighting back with "their own medicine" won any battles? Dont lower yourself to the level of those who insult you for your beliefs or your beliefs in specific.
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Registered: December 18, 2005
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Well, if these people weren't offensive to me about my lack of religion than I wouldn't be offensive back. Maybe if they respected my choice then I would respect theirs. Maybe if they didn't walk around saying "PRAISE GOD" or "PRAISE ALLAH" than I wouldn't walk around saying "PRAISE SCIENCE" Just giving them a dose of their own medicine... somebody has to. ^.^


i stand for love and peace!
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Registered: April 21, 2008
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In reply to an old post by JoeyDauben, Hitler was not a Chirstian. He was Athiest. He did not believe in religion. He had all churches, sinagogs, and any other religious temples (im not sure if there were any mosques in the area at the time) in the lands he conquered destroyed. Even Chirstian religious officials, like a priest, were executed.

To Wolfie,
Its your choice to not believe in relgion, or in the Bible or Koran. But you shouldnt really call these religions crazy. Its offensive to those who do belive in them.
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Registered: December 18, 2005
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The Koran and Bible are both crazy. Just read it yourself.

Both speak of eternal suffering... I find this insane therefore they are both crazy.

The Koran has some nice poems and stories as does the Bible but unfortunately people over-look kindness and love and they instead focus on being close-minded and ignorant.


i stand for love and peace!
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Registered: December 27, 2006
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I don't like the islamic religion because the Koran is crazy.

Go on.


...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: December 18, 2005
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I don't like the islamic religion because the Koran is crazy.

But I don't think that means I'm an islamophobe

I generally look down upon all those who live their life according to one book written centuries ago.

Oh come on now the illumanati... that's such a load of bull.


i stand for love and peace!
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Registered: September 03, 2008
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The media portrays Islam and misinterprets everything because its a threat to those satanic , you know what, and its controlled by the Illuminati.
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Registered: December 14, 2007
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Originally posted by lucysmusicbox:
we should all become buddhists and taoists. you never hear anything bad from those religions, nor do you see hate crimes committed either.


Thank the media.
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Registered: June 07, 2008
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I think it's silly to be Islamaphobic. A small group of 'fundamentalist Islams' did that, not the whole Islamic world. People are misinformed, because only 1% of the Islamic religious group even does violent things. Islamic teachings are against violence. It's one small group of 'fundamentalists'.

Let me educate. The king (or whatever they're called there) of the Muslim world was sick of people worshipping God, because he wanted to be worshipped. He began the order than innocent people would be killed, so Muhammad would stop the religion. Muhammad ONLY developed an army to defend his people from the killing. He didn't want unnecessary killing, only when his people NEEDED to be protected. People now think this means he supported killing. NO! Islamics don't like killing, and the people who did 9/11 were 'fundamentalists'. Not even people who follow what the Qu'ran really says. People who changed it to fit their needs. As I said, only 1%. Besides, every religion has that. There are even Christian groups like that.

Now, I'm not saying I agree with what they believe (I'm Christian), but I want everyone in the world to be at peace, no matter what they believe. And people need to learn to be educated on things, because it just leads to a world separated. Don't hate based on religion. And get educated before you judge (I took anthropology. Learning about the nature of people is interesting, and we had a huge unit on religion).


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Registered: June 08, 2008
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Originally posted by lucysmusicbox:
we should all become buddhists and taoists. you never hear anything bad from those religions, nor do you see hate crimes committed either.


I AM! (buddhist)
i think you believe what you believe though. it's up to you. well sometimes.
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Registered: April 30, 2008
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Originally posted by JoeyDauben:
[QUOTE] (Hitler was a Christian by the way).


whatthe freak! Hitler aint no real christion.
Unless he repented ALOT
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Registered: February 27, 2008
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we should all become buddhists and taoists. you never hear anything bad from those religions, nor do you see hate crimes committed either.
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Registered: November 18, 2007
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Well ..i believe that muslims today need to re-discover Islam's lost tradition.There are so many issues that muslims have to come to terms with ..such as:
the ill treatment of women by Muslims
slavery in countries ruled by Islamist regimes
Jew Bashing
etc..

As muslisms you ll should stand up for the religion you ll believe in ...unite and fight against people like Osama bin Laden etc..who insult your religion ..who make use of ur religion ..n use it as an excuse to kill innocent people in the name of "Allah"...
I am a non muslim ..but i do believe that there are many good muslims in the world ...and that judging you ll by your religion is wrong ...but you ll should stand up for yourselves ..and show the world what your religion truely is ..As muslims ..you ll owe this to ISLAM..
At the same time ..i do think that ..Islam needs to be reformed or rather muslims need to reform themselves..
Wake up ,unite..and change the way the world look at muslims ..before its too late ...The Sooner the better ..because there are lives are stake
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Registered: February 10, 2007
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Okay, it didn't work, so I will.

I didn’t get any noise mail. If you go to any of my articles there is a direct link to noise mail me.

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You could probably find Christians and Jews who agree with them too.

What who go along with the Islamic terrorists, or terrorism in General? Either way the point is that you don’t see large groups of Christians and Jews from around the world supporting terrorism. If the terrorists are perverting Islam, why do so many Muslims support their actions, or sympathies with them?


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein
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Registered: June 12, 2007
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I noisemailed it you. If that does not work Just noisemail me your email and I will email it to you. I don’t want to post it because it is big, it is 12 pages long.

Okay, it didn't work, so I will.
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The question is why do so many followers of Islam go along with what the terrorists say.

You could probably find Christians and Jews who agree with them too.


Li sempre essera le domande, non importa cio che la lingua.
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