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Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6008
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Are you quite done? I was trying to defend you, but if you feel you're better suited to go at it alone, that's fine by me.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
Picture of skamal07
Registered: December 10, 2006
Posts: 9
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quote:
Originally posted by clpo13:
My guess would be because they are forced to cover themselves by wearing veils and burkas and because they aren't allowed to drive or own businesses or any number of things that men can do and women can't.

But is this really oppression? Take the veils for instance. Many people (non-Muslims, that is) see them as a sign of oppression. Yet many Muslim women wear them willingly, using them to identify with their culture.


funny- i got my international license..
i have a job since the age of 15.
and i wear the hijab,
and do not have an arranged marriage.
do not hate a jew.
i am palestinian.
and would never harm someone.
im the real muslim, not what your F-ING MEDIA SHOWS YOU. YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS IF YOU BELIEVE IN THAT SHIT.
ive lived in the middle east, and now i live here in the states. i speak perfectly fine english, dress like an american but with a hijab (scarF)

you guys got this whole thing wrong..
and my fathers has never wore that "white dresS" by the way there is a name Wink - he lived in lebanon and kuwait his entire life.
idiots.
stupid media.
Picture of skamal07
Registered: December 10, 2006
Posts: 9
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quote:
Originally posted by IceQueen:
The 1st thing that comes to mind qhem I hear Islam is men in white dresses Smile
But I do think Islamic women are oppressed.


ok..ok..
now you got me pissed. I WEAR THE HIJAB.
by the way, cause you sound very stupid from the comment above.. hijab is that scarf women put on their head Smile
'
my parents never force it on my head..
i wore it because of ignorant fools like you.
holy shit- in islam it states the hijab is not forced. and you know what elsE? i LOVE My hijab. just cause you dont want to wear it, doesnt mean i have to take it off.
i LOVe my hijab. I LOVE it.
it gives me my own respect towards my body.
im not dressed like a complete whore like the girls around the world are.
i live to respect my body, to become me, and not someone im not. i dont have to wear miny skirts to get a guys attention.
and anyways, i want a guy to like me for who i am and not for my body.
my soul is #1. not my body.
if i dont respect my body and myself, who WILL?
Picture of skamal07
Registered: December 10, 2006
Posts: 9
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quote:
Originally posted by koyalkoyal:
quote:
Originally posted by skamal07:
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in my mosque, and every mosque ive been to.
its always peaceful.
.just as these radical muslims arent following the true religion of islam.



dear skamal07 :
About Osama bin laden you have given very foolish comment.
Few days back ,Hizbollah captrure two israel person from israel region that's why israel attack lebanoan. Is kidnaping ok? leader of hizbollah accept the kidnaping and also accept he has not predictd such impulsive respons of israel.
I am regularly view middle east news from about 7 year back through net, TV news, and paper. How the middle east country behaving with israel. I want simple question - IS Hizbollah and hamash in control of their respective country responsive rulle?. Every muslim blame israel. But i blame nearby muslim country.

about britain: the comment is also foolish.
muslims are increaing in population : the comment is also foolish and misguiding.
we must follow and be the best we can like the Prophet : like u, (not all among u) likes only prophet but not like allmighty allha(god) and their creation. It seems.
islam is about peace : In today world conflict between Muslim-hindu, Muslim-rassian(chechannya), Muslim-christian, Muslim-budhist, Muslim-jews, Muslim-muslim etc. Is it difinition of peace?
Regarding 3rd Question : in other word : Why so many religious muslim country in world ? Very few of other religion.
And where in mejority they fiting for that. why?


sweetheart- your spelling sucks. just by the way- you def know your politics. haha
lets see..hezebollah is shia.
the majority of muslims in the middle east and in the world are SUNNI.
sunni and shia have a history of not well..lets say..they aren't on talking terms.
nobody supports hizbollah. only very few.
and sweetheart, i wont even ARGUE about your views over islam being peaceful. cause.. lets just say i can shit loads about the lovely "peaceful" chrisanity and judisim"
Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
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My guess would be because they are forced to cover themselves by wearing veils and burkas and because they aren't allowed to drive or own businesses or any number of things that men can do and women can't.

But is this really oppression? Take the veils for instance. Many people (non-Muslims, that is) see them as a sign of oppression. Yet many Muslim women wear them willingly, using them to identify with their culture.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13926
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But I do think Islamic women are oppressed.


reasons? examples? give us something to chew on here!


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of IceQueen
Registered: October 16, 2006
Posts: 25
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sorry that was *when instead of qhem


"The President has kept all the promises he intended to keep."
Picture of IceQueen
Registered: October 16, 2006
Posts: 25
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The 1st thing that comes to mind qhem I hear Islam is men in white dresses Smile
But I do think Islamic women are oppressed.


"The President has kept all the promises he intended to keep."
Picture of koyalkoyal
Registered: December 08, 2006
Posts: 3
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quote:
Originally posted by skamal07:
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in my mosque, and every mosque ive been to.
its always peaceful.
.just as these radical muslims arent following the true religion of islam.



dear skamal07 :
About Osama bin laden you have given very foolish comment.
Few days back ,Hizbollah captrure two israel person from israel region that's why israel attack lebanoan. Is kidnaping ok? leader of hizbollah accept the kidnaping and also accept he has not predictd such impulsive respons of israel.
I am regularly view middle east news from about 7 year back through net, TV news, and paper. How the middle east country behaving with israel. I want simple question - IS Hizbollah and hamash in control of their respective country responsive rulle?. Every muslim blame israel. But i blame nearby muslim country.

about britain: the comment is also foolish.
muslims are increaing in population : the comment is also foolish and misguiding.
we must follow and be the best we can like the Prophet : like u, (not all among u) likes only prophet but not like allmighty allha(god) and their creation. It seems.
islam is about peace : In today world conflict between Muslim-hindu, Muslim-rassian(chechannya), Muslim-christian, Muslim-budhist, Muslim-jews, Muslim-muslim etc. Is it difinition of peace?
Regarding 3rd Question : in other word : Why so many religious muslim country in world ? Very few of other religion.
And where in mejority they fiting for that. why?
Picture of LoveTheRainbow
Registered: October 28, 2005
Posts: 5354
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The fact is that ALL news has a degree of bias to it.


Good thing at the moment too. It sure is helping me with my current events. Yay bias and propaganda! Wink

Before people jump all over me I am not serious. Propaganda and bias scare the crap out of me.


draft beer not soldiers...
Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13926
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wow that has completely altered my world view!

say... what ethics are they?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of affanculo
Registered: June 14, 2006
Posts: 956
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Surprisingly, they do!


Y to the V to the licious ... YVlicious....
Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13926
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the ethics of reporting


they have ethics! O_O


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of affanculo
Registered: June 14, 2006
Posts: 956
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The fact is that ALL news has a degree of bias to it. People will both Consciously and subconsciously form oppinions. Yes, i understand the ethics of reporting, but you cannot write or presently 100% factual w/o an oppinion.


Y to the V to the licious ... YVlicious....
Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13926
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but there are only a handful of major media corporations in the West.


true but there's even more coporations controlling the media than 5 and many of them are run by boards of directors instead of a single CEO


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6008
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hes probably your next president.


Oh God, please let that not be true. I like McCain's stance on torture, but that's it. I'd even support Hilary Clinton over him.

And the bit about a few people controlling the media isn't too far off base. I doubt it's a number as small as five, but there are only a handful of major media corporations in the West. I think. My info might be a bit...wrong. Meh.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
Picture of LoveTheRainbow
Registered: October 28, 2005
Posts: 5354
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McCain. Ha!


draft beer not soldiers...
Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13926
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send a letter to the white house they will tell you that is true


No they'll send you a form letter with a printed presidential signature on it

and just because McCain might end up president doesn't make his crackpot bullshit any less of a conspiracy theory.


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of skamal07
Registered: December 10, 2006
Posts: 9
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quote:
Originally posted by ampmaster:
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FIVE PEOPLE. they own ALL of it. 3 are isrealis..


OMG T3H JOO CONSPIRACY10110101010!!!


conspiarcy theory?
send a letter to the white house they will tell you that is true
guess who told me that?
McCain, my senator- i met him at a dinner meeting. he told me that. hes probably your next president.
thats no conspiarcy theory.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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FIVE PEOPLE. they own ALL of it. 3 are isrealis..


OMG T3H JOO CONSPIRACY10110101010!!!


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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