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Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
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the ethics of reporting


they have ethics! O_O


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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The fact is that ALL news has a degree of bias to it. People will both Consciously and subconsciously form oppinions. Yes, i understand the ethics of reporting, but you cannot write or presently 100% factual w/o an oppinion.


Y to the V to the licious ... YVlicious....
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but there are only a handful of major media corporations in the West.


true but there's even more coporations controlling the media than 5 and many of them are run by boards of directors instead of a single CEO


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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hes probably your next president.


Oh God, please let that not be true. I like McCain's stance on torture, but that's it. I'd even support Hilary Clinton over him.

And the bit about a few people controlling the media isn't too far off base. I doubt it's a number as small as five, but there are only a handful of major media corporations in the West. I think. My info might be a bit...wrong. Meh.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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McCain. Ha!


draft beer not soldiers...
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send a letter to the white house they will tell you that is true


No they'll send you a form letter with a printed presidential signature on it

and just because McCain might end up president doesn't make his crackpot bullshit any less of a conspiracy theory.


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Originally posted by ampmaster:
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FIVE PEOPLE. they own ALL of it. 3 are isrealis..


OMG T3H JOO CONSPIRACY10110101010!!!


conspiarcy theory?
send a letter to the white house they will tell you that is true
guess who told me that?
McCain, my senator- i met him at a dinner meeting. he told me that. hes probably your next president.
thats no conspiarcy theory.
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FIVE PEOPLE. they own ALL of it. 3 are isrealis..


OMG T3H JOO CONSPIRACY10110101010!!!


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Originally posted by Curare:
Are you Islamaphobic?

Is terroism the first word which comes to mind on hearing 'Islam' or 'Muslim'?

Does the media portray Islam as it really is?

Why are all Muslims held ressponisible for the crimes of Bin-Ladin? Why should they suffer discrimination and hate on his behalf?

Do you think Islamic women are oppresed?

I'll let you get on with it then...


media does not portay islam how it really is. but tells the media the explantion of islam for a terrorists point of view.
media is sooo f-ed up. guess who owns the media? FIVE PEOPLE. they own ALL of it. 3 are isrealis..

and muslims are held responsible cause people always like to blame someone.. like to hurt someone.. its stupidity.. buts that how it is hear in this coutnry. if you cant get osama back, get anyone else who looks like him.

and islamic women are not oppressed.
im a muslim women. i put the hijab when i chose. i get to do whatever i want. i just can't date, drink, smoke, or flirt..
i just have to be pure. and respect my body.
thats why i love islam so much.
its about respecting yourself as a women.
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Why u think osama bin is responsible for that?

What is HISBOLLAH group of lebonan, HAMAS of pilistain, So many such group in pakistan and other muslim country etc?

Why a muslim mejority area require muslim nation as pakistan or other muslim country?

Why muslim of britain destroying the openness
of society of britain? Don't give cause as Iraq

Why indian muslim running parellel rule among muslim in india?

Today population is a major cause of every problem( Natural or human made) But muslim is increasing population. Why? See the population groth in muslim society.

Why not muslims are able to give any sant like mahatma gandhi, Mother teresa, Budha, mahabir? Only gives like osamabin, Ourangeb etc.

U tell Mosque is place for prayer. But It seems this is place for meeting and ignite violance against other religion. Why?



Being an Indian i honestly cannot believe your saying stuff like that .

Agreed it seems as if the Muslims are the coz for some of the bad stuff but are you honestly blaming a population of 1 billion for something that was probably caused by 1% of that .

Osama was built up during the cold war trust me back then it had nothing to do with religion .

If they are losing the openess of society in Britain its only coz some people think like you .Its a blind fear with no basis .

How many mosques have you been inside ???

Atleast get the spelling of Aurangzeb right!!
And about the population part .....its their culture as much as a man of any other religion who is unaware . The answer is not to blame them but give them education .

And who doesnt have a parallel system in India . What about all the reservation fights that have been going on ??

And if you feel like this imagine a Muslim who had zilch to do with anything but is still questioned just coz he has a religion in common.
Im sorry i dont mean to sound rude its just that when people talk like that i think about all the people around me who are Muslims and face this same prejudice everyday . And they are such decent human beings . They dont deserve that .



11% HAHAHAHAH
you guys are way off- there are BILLIONS OF MUSLIMS. thats more than a million.
get your numbers straight and dont make up numbers.
i have lived all over the world, i go to mosques wherever i travel, i meet many muslims.
in of all the billions of the muslims- i can tell you about 10,000 agree with terrorirsts. and only .001% of them will ever attack.

get over yourselves..
you guys make muslims to be sooo scary.
hahha like there is a cheerleader who runs away from me every time she seems me because she thinks im going to kill everybody. what do you think about that? hahahah
there are nooo terrorists- just a few. it was 19 people who attacked the US on 9/11/2001.
19 people make up the entire islamic community?
thats just plain genius
good job using your brains
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Originally posted by koyalkoyal:
Why u think osama bin is responsible for that?

What is HISBOLLAH group of lebonan, HAMAS of pilistain, So many such group in pakistan and other muslim country etc?

Why a muslim mejority area require muslim nation as pakistan or other muslim country?

Why muslim of britain destroying the openness
of society of britain? Don't give cause as Iraq

Why indian muslim running parellel rule among muslim in india?

Today population is a major cause of every problem( Natural or human made) But muslim is increasing population. Why? See the population groth in muslim society.

Why not muslims are able to give any sant like mahatma gandhi, Mother teresa, Budha, mahabir? Only gives like osamabin, Ourangeb etc.

U tell Mosque is place for prayer. But It seems this is place for meeting and ignite violance against other religion. Why?

There are so many question in my mind. Any one can give their answer.

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osama bin ladin is a mystery.. i dont think anybody knows who he really is, if hes alive or dead, etc..
hizoballah was creatd after the war between israel and lebanon about 20 years ago. hezebollah was done to rebuild lebanon and defend it with their lives if there are any other attacks aganist lebanon.
Hamas was created as an army aganist israel. yet they are doing many things WRONG, like letting children fight or suciide bombs...

i do not understand your third question. please rewrite.

because britain has completele control over the muslims that they have no rights anymore and can't even breath (metaphorically). you say a word in britain about politics, your in trouble. you wear the hijab expect to get yourself to be beat or shot in the head.

number 5 question- again i dont understand the way you write. you need to fix up on your grammar kid.

muslims are increaing in population for the following:
after 9.11 happened, many people began to convert to islam creating islam as the fast growing religion in the world. more people convert to islam than any other religion.
9.11 was bad- but people converted when they began to study islam and see what it was about. before 2001, barely anybody knew what islam why. correcT?

muslims have the Prophet muhammad. what creates a muslim is if do what the prophet did and thats called sunnah. we have written down in detail what the Prophet did exactly. like he was traveling and he saw a family without any food- he invited them for dinner and helped support them till they were able to get back on track.
that there is something we must do.
again, thats called sunnah.
we've also have others- salah al din,omar al khattab, i forget what the guys name was- but he was assinated back on 9/11/2001- he was fighting aganist osama bin ladin BEFORE the attack ever happened. we have queen noor.
we have many people, but we all care about Muhammad. we must follow and be the best we can like the Prophet.

the mosque- in my mosque we have NEVER talked about violence whatsoever. islam is about peace. your listening to terrorists good job kid- these terrorists use islam ,then twist it, brainwash other muslims, and get their power that way. thats not islam.
in my mosque, and every mosque ive been to.
its always peaceful.
just cause you heard what 10 mosques did- it doesnt mean all talk about violence.
example,
i hear some churches support the KKK- speak of violence and plan to do violent things- im smart off to know thats not ALL churches.just a few. that these people arent following the true religion of christanity .just as these radical muslims arent following the true religion of islam.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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The fatwas are totally unfair but thats something that they have to fight


Not really. A fatwa (or religous proclemation) is the equivlent of a statement from the pope and I can't remember the last time I paid attention to what he was saying in regards to the catholic churches policy (and therefore for those follow the pope to the word their policy) on any number of subjects. but your still free to ignore the old dude completely


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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I am not satisfy with ur answer. But it seems it hurt u sorry for that.
Certainly broblem created by 1% but suppoted by 10%. I am leaving 89%. But this 11% are creating threat to society, nation and world as whole.
U have not tell any thing about muslim majority area.
U have corrected the spelling of Auranzeb Thank u for that but does not tell any thing about him. What has done by this type of people with non muslim especially hindu. Most of indian, pakistani and bangladeshi mualim are converted from hindu. can u relise this?
U are comparing reservation fight with parellel rule. It is not justified. I want to say about fatwa. Try to understand. fatwa about palspolio, fatawa about family planning, fatwa about taslima and khurshid, fatwa about vote etc. Is it only flown, not followed? what is this?
I am sorry if it hurt u or any one but try to understand me. I am not so good in english to express myself.



11% is still not 100 % right!!

You know something I go to Hyderabad a lot I live there in a Muslim majority area . I go for Iftar every year . And i love it . I never find anydifference out there . Same goes for Mumbai and Pune . If your talking about a Muslim majority country u cant possibly take Pakistan as an example because it has a egoistic Army General for a ruler who cant even articulate his own book properly .

Aurangzeb was a long long time ago . its what the Roman Catholic Church did too in those ages. Forced Religion upon people atleast Aurangzeb was at a small scale .

Agreed reservation fights and the kind of parallel rule that the Muslims have established with separate schools , separate laws and , fatwas and rules unto themselves is not nice . It doesnt exactly endear them to you .

The fatwas are totally unfair but thats something that they have to fight . Theres nothing you and i can do about it . And again thats by the same 11% so.....

Im sorry too . Didnt mean to sound like that . And dont worry bout the English at all .

The thing about Muslims is that the religion is inherently good . Their customs of Rosa and others are exemplary . The Quran does not preach violence , its interpreted in a violent way . The Muslim children are traditional , from the clothes they wear to obeying parents and all thats more than can be said for us .


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Registered: December 08, 2006
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Originally posted by notneo:
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Why u think osama bin is responsible for that?

What is HISBOLLAH group of lebonan, HAMAS of pilistain, So many such group in pakistan and other muslim country etc?

Why a muslim mejority area require muslim nation as pakistan or other muslim country?

Why muslim of britain destroying the openness
of society of britain? Don't give cause as Iraq

Why indian muslim running parellel rule among muslim in india?

Today population is a major cause of every problem( Natural or human made) But muslim is increasing population. Why? See the population groth in muslim society.

Why not muslims are able to give any sant like mahatma gandhi, Mother teresa, Budha, mahabir? Only gives like osamabin, Ourangeb etc.

U tell Mosque is place for prayer. But It seems this is place for meeting and ignite violance against other religion. Why?



Being an Indian i honestly cannot believe your saying stuff like that .

Agreed it seems as if the Muslims are the coz for some of the bad stuff but are you honestly blaming a population of 1 billion for something that was probably caused by 1% of that .

Osama was built up during the cold war trust me back then it had nothing to do with religion .

If they are losing the openess of society in Britain its only coz some people think like you .Its a blind fear with no basis .

How many mosques have you been inside ???

Atleast get the spelling of Aurangzeb right!!
And about the population part .....its their culture as much as a man of any other religion who is unaware . The answer is not to blame them but give them education .

And who doesnt have a parallel system in India . What about all the reservation fights that have been going on ??

And if you feel like this imagine a Muslim who had zilch to do with anything but is still questioned just coz he has a religion in common.
Im sorry i dont mean to sound rude its just that when people talk like that i think about all the people around me who are Muslims and face this same prejudice everyday . And they are such decent human beings . They dont deserve that .


I am not satisfy with ur answer. But it seems it hurt u sorry for that.
Certainly broblem created by 1% but suppoted by 10%. I am leaving 89%. But this 11% are creating threat to society, nation and world as whole.
U have not tell any thing about muslim majority area.
U have corrected the spelling of Auranzeb Thank u for that but does not tell any thing about him. What has done by this type of people with non muslim especially hindu. Most of indian, pakistani and bangladeshi mualim are converted from hindu. can u relise this?
U are comparing reservation fight with parellel rule. It is not justified. I want to say about fatwa. Try to understand. fatwa about palspolio, fatawa about family planning, fatwa about taslima and khurshid, fatwa about vote etc. Is it only flown, not followed? what is this?
I am sorry if it hurt u or any one but try to understand me. I am not so good in english to express myself.
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At least someone understood what he was talking about. I try, but there are times when I can't figure it out.

Anyways, notneo explained it well. Violent fundamentalists don't make up the majority of Islam.


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Why u think osama bin is responsible for that?

What is HISBOLLAH group of lebonan, HAMAS of pilistain, So many such group in pakistan and other muslim country etc?

Why a muslim mejority area require muslim nation as pakistan or other muslim country?

Why muslim of britain destroying the openness
of society of britain? Don't give cause as Iraq

Why indian muslim running parellel rule among muslim in india?

Today population is a major cause of every problem( Natural or human made) But muslim is increasing population. Why? See the population groth in muslim society.

Why not muslims are able to give any sant like mahatma gandhi, Mother teresa, Budha, mahabir? Only gives like osamabin, Ourangeb etc.

U tell Mosque is place for prayer. But It seems this is place for meeting and ignite violance against other religion. Why?



Being an Indian i honestly cannot believe your saying stuff like that .

Agreed it seems as if the Muslims are the coz for some of the bad stuff but are you honestly blaming a population of 1 billion for something that was probably caused by 1% of that .

Osama was built up during the cold war trust me back then it had nothing to do with religion .

If they are losing the openess of society in Britain its only coz some people think like you .Its a blind fear with no basis .

How many mosques have you been inside ???

Atleast get the spelling of Aurangzeb right!!
And about the population part .....its their culture as much as a man of any other religion who is unaware . The answer is not to blame them but give them education .

And who doesnt have a parallel system in India . What about all the reservation fights that have been going on ??

And if you feel like this imagine a Muslim who had zilch to do with anything but is still questioned just coz he has a religion in common.
Im sorry i dont mean to sound rude its just that when people talk like that i think about all the people around me who are Muslims and face this same prejudice everyday . And they are such decent human beings . They dont deserve that .


To save the environment , plant a bush back in Texas.
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Why u think osama bin is responsible for that?

What is HISBOLLAH group of lebonan, HAMAS of pilistain, So many such group in pakistan and other muslim country etc?

Why a muslim mejority area require muslim nation as pakistan or other muslim country?

Why muslim of britain destroying the openness
of society of britain? Don't give cause as Iraq

Why indian muslim running parellel rule among muslim in india?

Today population is a major cause of every problem( Natural or human made) But muslim is increasing population. Why? See the population groth in muslim society.

Why not muslims are able to give any sant like mahatma gandhi, Mother teresa, Budha, mahabir? Only gives like osamabin, Ourangeb etc.

U tell Mosque is place for prayer. But It seems this is place for meeting and ignite violance against other religion. Why?

There are so many question in my mind. Any one can give their answer.
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Originally posted by Curare:
Are you Islamaphobic?

Is terroism the first word which comes to mind on hearing 'Islam' or 'Muslim'?

Does the media portray Islam as it really is?

Why are all Muslims held ressponisible for the crimes of Bin-Ladin? Why should they suffer discrimination and hate on his behalf?

Do you think Islamic women are oppresed?

I'll let you get on with it then...


coming from an Islamic country, Malaysia. alot of controversy comes around especially ever since that 9/11 incident. However, despite the fact that alot of these blames went on to the Muslims, society still unites and no one was discriminating. What the media convey about the Islams isn't all true. There are always two sides of a story and the media isn't always true. I believe that the decision of the leaders affect how people see the society as a whole. They start generalizing. Its a pity that the decisions of leaders of countries are affecting the society and how they see them.
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I'm going to stick with famous. Makes me feel better about myself.


What would you give for your kid fears?
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