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You empathize with terrorists? Wow. That’s pretty sad.

I want to comment on this, and only this. A few things. LTR is not empathising, she is sympathising. Empathy is not a choice. It is feeling the emotions of a person or group, taking them into yourself and either experiencing them personally or coming damn close. I could empathise with a terrorist. They are a person, after all. But sympathise with them? That means I have to choose to see their point of view. Now carry on, fools.

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Lets se do I:

Believe that people have to believe in my religion or die. NO
Believe that killing nonbelievers will get me a place in heaven NO
Believe that woman are inferior to men NO
Believe that gays should be killed NO

Ok, just no one picks and pick at me, we are comparing the stereotypical gun toting, let's just kill the foreigners before they kill us American to Muslim terrorists right? Right? Ok then.

Terrorists as a whole are not very united in their goals. Yes, they attack people with different religions but they also attack people within their same religion, such as the Amman hotel bombings a while back. Those were Iraqis bombing a Palestinian wedding in Jordan, and all parties were Muslim. Bottom line? It's not about Muslims killing everyone else, it's about terrorists using unethical means to try to force political change. And really, you don't think that people of other religions deserve to die, just harassed and made miserable while they live? How comforting.

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But we are not fighting the war on terror threw force alone, we are fighting it threw other means as well. The military is just one of the important avenues that we use.

Please name one.

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I was comparing your view points and they are a lot more similar than you think.

Lets se do I:

Believe that people have to believe in my religion or die. NO
Believe that killing nonbelievers will get me a place in heaven NO
Believe that woman are inferior to men NO
Believe that gays should be killed NO

I seam to disagree with them on many points. Which points am I so similar to them on?

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Only recently have they figured things out,

Exactly they used to be much better during the cold war and then got lax after it ended. Then 9-11 hit us and they had to spend some time after that getting back on track. But they are back on their feet, and are ready to go. That is a big reason why there has not been a Major terrorist attack on the US since 9-11.

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But it would be incredibly naive to think that terror is something that can be beaten by force alone, if it can be beaten all.

But we are not fighting the war on terror threw force alone, we are fighting it threw other means as well. The military is just one of the important avenues that we use.

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If you will look at the organizations, and see what they have done, what they are doing, and what they can do, your opinion may change.
Also what is your plan to win the war on terror?

I have looked at them, and from an insider's point of view, no less. I got my info about the misnamed intelligence community from none other than Richard A. Clarke, the one who worked in and later oversaw them all leading up to and shortly after 9/11, at which point he quit because they were going about things the wrong way (such as deciding to invade Iraq), even though all evidence pointed down a different road (al Qaeda). Only recently have they figured things out, but now we've stirred up the hornet's nest enough that it will never get settled.

Which brings me to your War on Terror question. Who said anything about winning it? Terror is not something that can be eliminated, therefore the so-called "war" on terror can never be won. The best that could happen would be an uneasy stand-off. But it would be incredibly naive to think that terror is something that can be beaten by force alone, if it can be beaten all.

Extremism from any point of view or any religion is scary and sad.

I was comparing your view points and they are a lot more similar than you think.

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Ah, irony burns deep doesn't it Nephilem, dear.

Well if I was an Islamic terrorist we might be looking at a case of generalization, but I am not and that’s who LTR was comparing me to.

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Ah. Don't like people generalizing do you?

Ah, irony burns deep doesn't it Nephilem, dear.

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Ah. Don't like people generalizing do you?

Well actually you were comparing me to a terrorist,which is not a very good comparison.

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What do you know about my upbringing? My beliefs have actually changed a lot over the years, and I don’t just listen to everything that I hear.

Ah. Don't like people generalizing do you?

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Most of them were raised to believe what they do, much like you were.

What do you know about my upbringing? My beliefs have actually changed a lot over the years, and I don’t just listen to everything that I hear.

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You empathize with terrorists? Wow. That’s pretty sad.

No. I empathize with their point of view. I put myself in their shoes and forget all my biased opinions. Most of them were raised to believe what they do, much like you were. I doubt many of them ever really had a free thought, much like you.

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No. I am merely empathizing with them.

You empathize with terrorists? Wow. That’s pretty sad.

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I wouldn't trust either of those organizations to do the job right.

These organizations are not nearly as insufficient as you are suggesting. If you will look at the organizations, and see what they have done, what they are doing, and what they can do, your opinion may change.
Also what is your plan to win the war on terror?

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The CIA, NSA. In LTR’s case I have a specific tip from the terrorist herself. How easy is that!

I wouldn't trust either of those organizations to do the job right. They received many tips and warning signs regarding 9/11 leading up to the day it happened, yet the heads of those organizations almost completely ignored them. They only reacted after it happened, and then they just went overboard, especially in creating the Dept. of Homeland Security, which is poorly organized and incredibly bloated, not to mention fixated with making airplane travelers incredibly miserable.

No. I am merely empathizing with them.

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Because maybe they don't.

So you are condoning terrorist action?

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But you do know better, so why bring it up.

Because maybe they don't.

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And I repeat:
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If I didn't know any better,

But you do know better, so why bring it up.

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* calling DHS* Well that’s not good. But not all Americans are like me. By the way the fact that you think I am a stereotypical American, is enough to make you want to kill people? It seams that you are a little emotionally unstable.

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If I didn't know any better,

And you don't need to bring my emotional stablity into this.

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I did not say that it was the majority of Muslims; I simply said that it was a large group. Tens of millions of people is not small.

Ok gotcha. My brain isn't working today.