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Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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How? how can we ID a terrorist before he strikes? Unless there's some form of tip off we won't know until the guy makes his move at which point the plane is airborne. I suppose we could just shoot any adult male we see with a turban or a beard...


By Nephs logic ANY Muslim is more likely to be a terrorist than any one else. So I suppose he'd go for your idea Amp. :P


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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And that specific group contains tens of millions of people so it is not a small group.


try tens of thousands and you'll be closer (this is not counting the nation of Iran which doesn't fall under the defenition of terrorist because they are actually a country)

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Which I why I said that we should shoot the terrorist before they get on the plane.


How? how can we ID a terrorist before he strikes? Unless there's some form of tip off we won't know until the guy makes his move at which point the plane is airborne. I suppose we could just shoot any adult male we see with a turban or a beard...

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I'll try and be nice when Neph stops being stupid.


never is a very long time love


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Also muslims in general don't hate the US, a specfic group known as "extremeists" hate the US this is no where close to either the main stream or the majority of islamic culture

And that specific group contains tens of millions of people so it is not a small group.
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which has a 99.9% chance of never going through. it takes a while to ID an aircraft as a threat and get interceptors in the air and usually by that time well it's to damn late. Listen neph your not going to win here my best friend is in homeland security and they've done full analysis on every plane vs. building scenario possible and guess what? we lose everytime.

Which I why I said that we should shoot the terrorist before they get on the plane.


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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I'll try and be nice when Neph stops being stupid.


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Registered: January 16, 2003
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Let's try to be nice, guys. Wink


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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Neph, either say what you mean or keep your mouth shut. Preferably the latter because everytime you open your mouth more stupidity enters the world.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Actually if you read what I posted, I was referring to Muslims in general, not a specific group. Americas support for Israel is one of the biggest reasons that Muslims hate us.


you just said "their" that doesn't idetify anyone so since you had bitched about Al-Qaeda in that same post it required a minor leap of logic to connect the to. Also muslims in general don't hate the US, a specfic group known as "extremeists" hate the US this is no where close to either the main stream or the majority of islamic culture

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Actually I never said by a foreign power, if you are going to quote me at least quote me correctly


right but it was the same damn thing so why get wrapped up in minutia? unless *checks bottom of own last post* yep he's doing it again.

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And secondly the idea would be to shoot down the plane before it reaches it destination.


which has a 99.9% chance of never going through. it takes a while to ID an aircraft as a threat and get interceptors in the air and usually by that time well it's to damn late. Listen neph your not going to win here my best friend is in homeland security and they've done full analysis on every plane vs. building scenario possible and guess what? we lose everytime. (except one but that requires the aircraft to be starting from a good distance away like 1000 miles distance)


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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OMG My name means princess too! High five!


Wohoo!

*high fives Sphinx*

Smile


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Registered: February 10, 2007
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then say that you moron and your jet fighter would still have little to no effect except to fly around the rubble of the target and make for good photo ops

It was kind of implied; I said I will meet you there. And to explain again what I meant. I said that I would shoot her before she got on the plane. And secondly the idea would be to shoot down the plane before it reaches it destination.
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Nope do some reading on Al-qaeda and try once more.

Actually if you read what I posted, I was referring to Muslims in general, not a specific group. Americas support for Israel is one of the biggest reasons that Muslims hate us.
Secondly, you are correct about Al-Qaeda. One of the reasons that they hate us is because of our prescience in the Middle East. A presence that is at the Request of the countries.
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biggest attack on US soil by a forgien power"

Actually I never said by a foreign power, if you are going to quote me at least quote me correctly, and don’t add on your own words.


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I meant before she got on the plane. If I was talking about after she had control of the plain, I would be using a fighter Jet, not a high caliber weapon.


then say that you moron and your jet fighter would still have little to no effect except to fly around the rubble of the target and make for good photo ops

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As I have repeatedly stated, that is not the big reason for their hatred. The biggest reason is Americas support for Israel.


Nope do some reading on Al-qaeda and try once more. While some of the extremist front have "supports the nation of israel" at the top of their beef list it's not really a primary. The whole reason Osama set up his terrorist orginization which is so far the largest and most lethal is because of the enduring American presence in Saudia Arabia and Kuwait. Kinda funny thing is that we were given him funds to fight the russians during the soviet occupation of afghanistan. Hind sights a bitch huh?

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I meant the biggest terrorist attack


then say that when you say it, I hate to inform you but when you just make statements like "biggest attack on US soil by a forgien power" it's not specific and makes you look like a complete dodo

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Prediction: Neph will post again only further proving he is an idiot.


MY GOD! ltr do perhaps have latent psychic abilities? because you were absolutely right!

Oh an notice how nephilem whenever someone makes a good point or debunks one of his points either ignores said point or "corrects" his mistaken verbage or what not.


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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I hope to whatever gods exist he doesn't I mean honest to the heavens, because they hate freedom? try "because we intervene in their affairs and they view our presence in the holy land and on their sovergien soil to be highly offensive"

As I have repeatedly stated, that is not the big reason for their hatred. The biggest reason is Americas support for Israel.
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idiot you can launch a full SAM at a 747 and it stull won't have an affect if it's on it's final attack vector. ever hear of "momentum" and "gravity"?

I meant before she got on the plane. If I was talking about after she had control of the plain, I would be using a fighter Jet, not a high caliber weapon.
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wrong sir! read up on Pearl Harbor and look again

I meant the biggest terrorist attack. Pearl Harbor and 9-11 are not in the same category because one was an attack by a military, and one was an attack by terrorists. Also Pearl Harbor was an attack on a military instillation, while 9-11 was an attack on civilians


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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Mine means Hebrew princess or my little princess. Sorry, I had to jump in because I felt left out here. :P


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Registered: October 28, 2005
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what? it's really what it tranlates to from it's slavic root. Eric=Ervikar which translates to "Ever Ruler"

*nodds*
*smiles*
What ever you say.

My name only means mother of gods. Frown

Edit: I lied. Appearently it also means "God has judged, God is judge, or God will judge" Scary.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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what? it's really what it tranlates to from it's slavic root. Eric=Ervikar which translates to "Ever Ruler"


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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and I don't just win at life I like my real name says rule

Now, now. Lets not have this go to your head. Wink


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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when dealing with high caliber fools some times artillery is required Wink

and I don't just win at life I like my real name says rule


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Recap: I squabble with Neph all day and Amp comes in and wipes him out with one post.

Prediction: Neph will post again only further proving he is an idiot.

Conclusion: Amp wins at life

Oh snap


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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This is why I love you.


as well you should my dear

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Do you honestly, HONESTLY, think people want to kill Americans because they "hate freedom


I hope to whatever gods exist he doesn't I mean honest to the heavens, because they hate freedom? try "because we intervene in their affairs and they view our presence in the holy land and on their sovergien soil to be highly offensive"

It's kinda like the Brits messing with colonial America and I seem to remember the colonies having a war over the matter...
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You would only succeed if some one like me did not pump you full of high velocity high caliber rounds.


idiot you can launch a full SAM at a 747 and it stull won't have an affect if it's on it's final attack vector. ever hear of "momentum" and "gravity"?

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Alright you tell me the time and place and I will meat you there with a Whetherbary 454, or perhaps a Desert Eagle.


hmmmm large caliber pistols that tend not to work... compensating much?

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Oh, so after the biggest attack on American soil


wrong sir! read up on Pearl Harbor and look again


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Maybe not, but they will certainly back down when they are dead.

*slaps forehead*

Have you learned nothing?


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Registered: October 30, 2005
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Originally posted by Nephilem:
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My point was that violence doesn't end violence. People don't back down when they are threatened.

Maybe not, but they will certainly back down when they are dead.


It is like the whole concept of don't fight fire with fire. And what do you suggest, dropping another atomic bomb?


When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace
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