Question:
There's a lot of morons out there that think that one gender is smarter, tougher, harder working, or whatnot than another gender. What do you think?

Choices:
Girls are way smarter than boys and better at everything.
No way, just the opposite. Guys are smarter and better.
Gender has nothing to do with brains or brawn.
Girls can be tougher than guys and guys can be smarter than girls, or vice versa, it depends on what they look like.
Boys are just plain stupid. Girls rock!

 

Oliver Cromwell wrote a book called

"hot to socially run a country into the ground, decide which generals make good governors, betray the very parlaiment that supported you when you got the crown (well technically the lord protectorate position).....but be a really sweet military commander"



hardly "common sense"

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Thank you for correcting me on the Common Sense front faerienite.

No problem. My sixth grade history teacher did her job (a little too) well.

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Oliver Cromwell was the moron that wanted to destroy anyone with a drop of Irish blood in them, and tried to make a non-Monarchy out of England...and was just all around touched.

Oliver Cromwell was definatly not a moron. He was one of the most successful leaders England has ever had, the only person who has properly disrupted the monarchy in English history. I count myself as a monarchist, but to say that Oliver Cromwell was a moron is a step too far, I think.

Thank you for correcting me on the Common Sense front faerienite.

Being smart doesn't even concern gender, it's so stupid that people even think like that.

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Originally posted by faerienite:

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Didn't Oliver Cromwell write a book called Common Sense?

Thomas Paine wrote "Common Sense".

Sorry, that just really bugged me.

Who said that Oliver Cromwell wrote "Common Sense?" I want to kill them. Oliver Cromwell was the moron that wanted to destroy anyone with a drop of Irish blood in them, and tried to make a non-Monarchy out of England...and was just all around touched.

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Didn't Oliver Cromwell write a book called Common Sense?

Thomas Paine wrote "Common Sense".

Sorry, that just really bugged me.



As for the issue on hand:

A hundred years ago the question posed would be utterly ridiculous. Now that society has changed and improved, our perception of women's ablities has changed and improved.
Society has more of an influence over our opinion of the genders than the actaul physical, natural advantages (whatever they may be).

Yogore seems to be on the right track.


If you haven't learned already...gender is 98% social construct.

Nah. Well, maybe.

What would be interesting is to compare the number of boys and girls on YN, (ie those who debate on the internet in thier spare time, smarts) and see what it balanced out to be.

Worth, I think that common sense differs between the sexes only in the way it expresses itself. Girls can do certain tasks requirng certain types of 'common sense' better than boys and vice versa. Didn't Oliver Cromwell write a book called Common Sense?

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Originally posted by yogore:
Girls tend to have intelectual curiosity at a younger age than boys, but I'm not sure if that's society or development.

Couldn't it be alittle of both? I mean, couldn't the intellectual curiosity develop from what's going in the person's surrounding (society)?

I think overall, it may be true that - schoolwise - boys are smarter. But, girls are almost always the ones who work harder so, even if there is a guy in class smarter than us, we can make better grades because of that. So you may say we're smarter because we have the brains to know that we need to work hard to succeed. That's up to you.

As far as common sense goes, I'm sorry, but I have not met but one or two guys who had more common sense than me or any of my other lady friends.

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Yogore-If it is all society's stereotypes then gender does matter because if you are a male or female you will be pressured differently.

But there is no biological difference just societal pressure. It doesn't make males better or smarter at math and science.

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the female's brain develops much faster than the males.

True, although soemtimes I think it's over exaggerated. Girls tend to have intelectual curiosity at a younger age than boys, but I'm not sure if that's society or development.

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There are more females teaching math/science at my school than males and there are more males that teach english/history. Just a random fact... sorry.

There are many more female teachers over all. Teaching has been veiwed as a "feminine" career.

Science has proven that in general, the female's brain develops much faster than the males. But that is only in general, many males are much smarter and more advanced than us females.

There are more females teaching math/science at my school than males and there are more males that teach english/history. Just a random fact... sorry.

Yogore-If it is all society's stereotypes then gender does matter because if you are a male or female you will be pressured differently.

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Guy are better in science and mathematics than girls.

I don't think that has anything to do with the actual gender, but more of what society stresses. Women are stereotypically not expected to be good at these things, so not many women choose to go into this field. And vice versa with more "feminine" subjects. I know many girls who are excellent at math and science because they veiwed it as something important and kept on with it despite it being stereotypically male.

iam- Yeah, I totally agree with that.

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Originally posted by noisemaker1321:
There's a lot of morons out there that think that one gender is smarter, tougher, harder working, or whatnot than another gender. What do you think?

I think that some of it has to do with gender. Girls mature up to six months faster than guys. Guy are better in science and mathematics than girls. It's stuff like that that has to do with gender. We are all "tough" to some degree and again "tougher" to some degree than others. But then again that all has to with, I think, how we are genetically and physically made. I think that it's a little bit mental and emotional in the fact of how a person was raised and the situations they've been through. I hope that what I am saying helps and isn't confusing.

ah I see now