Damn.

I had plenty of people call me a dyke and threaten me and such last year, but they never followed through on their promises.

Yogore:
I don't think you got my joke. One member leaving equals a 50% reduction, indicating a 2 person GSA. Actually...it was 3 people, plus a teacher, and all 3 members graduated (it was an unofficial GSA and this was like three years ago).

LTR, I feel so bad for you... did you go to the office?

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I don't need my school to have a Heterosexual Alliance, I don't need Heterosexual Pride Parades, etc. I don't need a bumpersticker advertising "Straight Pride" on my car. Why do gays?

Because we need to band together for safety and support. I held LTR's hand the other day and the VERY NEXT DAY some asshole punched her calling her a sinner, a dyke and telling her she was going to hell. ALL WE DID WAS HOLD HANDS. we weren't flaunting any more than any other heterosexual couple. Actually compared to what goes on at my school we were being curteous to others. But this iswhy we need pride. That is why we need to bring it to light. So in the future things like that and what happended at Yogore's school wont happen anymore.

How many times do I have to tell you that that jerk didn't do that because we held hands chances are he didn't even see that. He knew I was gay long before that. Plus you forgot to mention the part where I stood of for my self and hit him back.

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Constantly reminding people of what makes you different is a good way to remind people to treat you different.

I think we should celebrate diversity. We are all individuals afterall.

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but who are a little annoyed as to the fact that it gets brought up so often.

I think how much you hear depends on where you live. It also depends on what you mean by brought up. If you mean people protesting, throwing a parade or something political, I can see what you mean, however if you are counting seeing gay couples as it being brought up, I definitally do not agree.

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but did you ever stop to think that they just wanted to be treated equally?

Constantly reminding people of what makes you different is a good way to remind people to treat you different.

Yogore -

The above pretty much sums up how a lot of us "moderates" feel - that is, people who don't have a problem with homosexuals or the lifestyle, but who are a little annoyed as to the fact that it gets brought up so often. I can, however, understand setting up a GSA in the extreme case you mentioned. Hopefully, whoever was making those death threats got a little attitude adjustment ... or at least wised up.

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I don't need my school to have a Heterosexual Alliance, I don't need Heterosexual Pride Parades, etc. I don't need a bumpersticker advertising "Straight Pride" on my car. Why do gays?

Because we need to band together for safety and support. I held LTR's hand the other day and the VERY NEXT DAY some asshole punched her calling her a sinner, a dyke and telling her she was going to hell. ALL WE DID WAS HOLD HANDS. we weren't flaunting any more than any other heterosexual couple. Actually compared to what goes on at my school we were being curteous to others. But this iswhy we need pride. That is why we need to bring it to light. So in the future things like that and what happended at Yogore's school wont happen anymore.

I dont think Ive ever read anything filled with more hate, hipocrisy and intolerance.

Here in the United States of America we have this little thing that our country was founded. Just something we like to call "FREEDOM AND EQUALITY FOR ALL"

Sound familiar? It should.

Everyone complains and rants about how the gays are parading around forcing everyone to folow their beliefes and "immoral ways" but did you ever stop to think that they just wanted to be treated equally?

Alot of people have made that argument about gays just wanting the equality promised to them by simply living in this country but it cant be said enough.

You cant claim that theyre trying to make us follow their beliefes and at the same time have the argument that homosexuality is wrong because it says so in the bible. Come on now. Say it with me HYPOCRITE.

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I don't need my school to have a Heterosexual Alliance, I don't need Heterosexual Pride Parades, etc. I don't need a bumpersticker advertising "Straight Pride" on my car. Why do gays?

Well, you are welcome to have one, but the majority usually doesn't need celebration of who they are. I think you are interpreting gay pride parades incorrectly. It's not about flaunting homosexuality, but rather, gay pride parades and festivities emerged when trying to get people to accept themselves for who they were. Gay pride parades let homosexuals say in the open that they were gay, and while it may seem over kill now, it was neccessary in order to get where we are today.

As for the heterosexual alliance concept, I founded my [former] school's gay-straight aliance because of major issues my school faced. There were death threats for a gay kid at my school and that was not acceptable. The GSA was neccessary in order to get the word out about homosexuality and give real facts as opposed to the stuff everyone believed.

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I think if more folks like you were running the gay-rights movement, people would put up less resistance to your cause.

Thankyou? But I don't want to be taken the wrong way. I do not flaunt my homosexuality, but I don't hide it either.

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I don't need my school to have a Heterosexual Alliance, I don't need Heterosexual Pride Parades, etc. I don't need a bumpersticker advertising "Straight Pride" on my car. Why do gays?

You don't live in fear every day of your life.

I don't need my school to have a Heterosexual Alliance, I don't need Heterosexual Pride Parades, etc. I don't need a bumpersticker advertising "Straight Pride" on my car. Why do gays?

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but in appropriate situations it is neccessary to mention it.

Good, it's nice to see some more moderate folks in this. I think if more folks like you were running the gay-rights movement, people would put up less resistance to your cause.

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Or where "membership in the GSA is down by 50%" indicates that one member graduated?

I can beat that. our GSA lost 90% of its members due to graduation. Maybe I'll be able to find more kids next year.

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I don't wear my sexuality on my sleeve. Why do gays feel the need to do so?

I son't wear my sexuality on my sleeve. I don't walk around talking about how I want the right to marriage, but in appropriate situations it is neccessary to mention it.

Is the fact that gays exist being shoved down everyone's throats? Am I the only person here who attends a school where the health curriculum has "what is the role of the mother? what is the role of the father?" worksheets? Or where "membership in the GSA is down by 50%" indicates that one member graduated?

Because if gays don't push for THEIR EQUAL RIGHTS IN THE USA, SOMETHING THAT IS NONEXISTENT, no one else will. We have our own interests at heart in this debate. Why shouldn't we be concerned about OUR rights, about OUR freedom?

Very few people are homophobes. It's just a lot of us are tired of having gay rights/tolerance/lifestyles rammed down our throats in the cultural arena.

I don't wear my sexuality on my sleeve. Why do gays feel the need to do so?

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It's a difference between being a Chrisitan and loving all people and also not loving their sin.

I don't believe anyone that says they love all people. How can you love someone that you don't know? Love is far too special to be given out to every single person that you meet.

First of all....woah. What happened to the orange?

And secondly...nothing. I don't have the energy. Even the sacred pineapple-mango smoothie I am drinking cannot make me feel like battling another anti-gay board.

Here we go again...

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"I love all apples, just not the red ones."

If you don't like to red apples though then that's a personal taste. It's a difference between being a Chrisitan and loving all people and also not loving their sin.

It continues to boggle my mind how people can claim to be Christian, yet be prejudice towards homosexuals. That's like saying "I love all apples, just not the red ones."

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I do too. It makes you wonder why some people do feel the need to be homphobes. If homosexuals don't like themselves then why should the rest of the world.

Not all of us fell that way. I would actually say very few do.