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Picture of gayrights16
Registered: January 07, 2004
Posts: 12
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Because we seriously need to stand up..be proud..and fight for eachother snce half the people on the site are homophobic!!!!! Cool
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Registered: May 22, 2007
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Hear hear!


"Sanity is not statistical." ~ 1984 (A book that everyone should read)
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Registered: June 12, 2007
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What will happen to you, not anybody else but you, if gay people are allowed to get married?


Seriously. This is a really good point. It's not going to hurt anyone else if gays get married. I am a lesbian and I think that we should be allowed to be married - we are still people too. They let people who are blind, deaf, or have physical and mental problems, - people society considers to be "different" - get married, so why not the gays?


Li sempre essera le domande, non importa cio che la lingua.
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Registered: May 22, 2007
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Willywilly, You my friend have the voice of reason.

Oh and I'm 17, a guy and yes gay


"Sanity is not statistical." ~ 1984 (A book that everyone should read)
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Registered: June 06, 2007
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The church is the last bastion of discrimination...

Although, I agree the bible is rather clear on homosexuality being a sin, it also would have women living in the dark ages, never actually mentions the modern concept of marriage suggesting even that men should have multiple wives, children should be disciplined with brutal physical punishment, etc...

I'm not suggesting that its followers shouldn't take it literally, but rather that anyone who is a follower must have some confusion over a book that opens with a wrathful God, has a loving sacrificial redemption in the middle based on a father letting hi son die and then finishes up with a horrible judgment at the end wiping how most of the world.

Meantime, "judge not lest you be judged" and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" - if the Christian God, or many other religious deities, were human beings leading a nation, they would be considered bipolar at best and completely insane at worst. Being all-powerful and omnipotent, but leaving humanity to its own destruction would not be a question of "moving in mysterious ways" - it would be considered completely evil.

I seek not as a gay man to be loved, respected or understood by the average religious person (or conservative secular individual), but thankfully, after a difficult time with my own religious mother and sister have found that it is possible to live in peace and learn to love as a non-Christian without the grace of God, those who seek to judge me, or anyone else in the name of someone who has done little good beyond the kindness that exists in all human beings to help one another in times of trial and tribulation.

To the idiot who can't understand transgendered issues, I say what difference does it make to you. I'm guessing you've never understood quantum physiques, nor do you really know what makes a seed start growing after being dormant in the ground and yet you accept these things as part of reality. I don't know, despite being brought up straight and seeing more breasts on TV than I care to remember, what makes a man only love a woman, but obviously it's part of life. I wouldn't be here, if it wasn't, but that alone doesn't make it more understandable, or right.

To those who naively think marriage is anything more than a tradition, it isn't mentioned very often in the bible beyond the bride of Christ passage and in fact, in the Old Testament, merely lying with a woman made her your wife. To death do us part and a pledge before God and man has more to do with rules regarding old contractual law than it does with true love and commitment. You were bringing the wealth of two families together, not uniting two loving souls for eternity in past marriage law.

Finally, my rant must end with "go forth, be frutiful and mutliply" - again, is God so moronic that He wouldn't see that there are beginning to be more people on this earth than resources support? Ever think of the fact, that both the Jews and the early Christians, were such religious groups that sought to exclude outsiders, so needed to grow in numbers within just to survive? As far as I'm concerned, reproduction is far too often man's, or woman's vain attempt to leave behind a legacy in an otherwise meaningless life. Too often the unloved seek to create love by having dependent offspring that they then expect to be grateful (albeit independent) for the rest of their lives for the gift of life, even if that is supposed to come from God not your parents.

If there is a god and he (or she) is truly just, I have no fear since being queer is not a question of being right, or wrong anymore than being tall, or preferring the color green over purple is a controllable choice... If god is unjust, then I would rather suffer eternal damnation, than to waste one day of this earthly life that I know I have, living a lie in the name of being right, rather than truthful, or as happy as humanly possible. Christians always assume that non-believers simply don't believe, but some of us, don't think that the Gospel promotes a truth worth following.
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Registered: April 14, 2007
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Well i think that gay people should be able to get health care and marrage rights because they are people too. Thats not right just to say "well your gay so you can't get married and health care.
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Registered: April 14, 2007
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Hey Emily (oosneezyoo) I think that gay or lesbian marrige should be ok because I think the world would be beter off that way..
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Registered: April 14, 2007
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I am a BI i am a male. I love my GF very much. But some times i have gay fantasys about this hot boy in my class Razz Eek
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Registered: March 01, 2004
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to conflictingzest and anyone else who doesnt support gay marriages:

What will happen to you, not anybody else but you, if gay people are allowed to get married?

Just a question that I think everyone needs to answer.

My answer is that my moms cousin will be able to get married and that would make me happy. Because nothing makes me happier than to see peoples dreams come true.

Just my thoughts,
Emily
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Registered: June 06, 2004
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I'm straight, as far as I know, but it could also be too soon to tell.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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but I don't think gays and such should get special rights like marrage and health care stuff.


Those are not special rights.
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Registered: July 08, 2003
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I'm strait, but I have many bi friends. I have nothing aganst them, but I don't think gays and such should get special rights like marrage and health care stuff.
-Froda
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Registered: July 21, 2004
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Gay Straight Alliance


I'm in that too veritaslateo at my school. My best gay friend started it at my school and I of course backed him up about it. Oh, and I'm straight. Smile
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Registered: July 12, 2004
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i'm a lesbian. Smile
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Registered: June 17, 2003
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I'm bi, and more than willing to **** any homophobes off!

-Nicole (bisexual and politicallyINcorrect)
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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oh well then my mistake
Registered: March 20, 2004
Posts: 66
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I'm a straight ally (sp) in my local Gay Straight Alliance.
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Registered: February 20, 2004
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earthgoddess, There's a difference in the bible between moral laws and ritual laws. Moral laws such as obeying God and not being a homosexual, or Ritual laws such as not cutting your beard. When Jesus came he created a new covenant with everyone that allowed a direct link to God and Heaven without all the rituals. It also says n the new testament that God would wrie his moral laws on our hearts, showing that the moral laws still exist and are important.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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Woah. let me stop you here, conflictingzest. Civil Unions grant only 400 or so rights where marriage grants over 1000. That is not "almost equal" rights.
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