adults give me evil looks when i listen to my music, and they try to teach me a lesson by turning on their classical radio stations.
(they seem to think that if the music doesn't appeal to them its not worth listening to)

i have gotten in trouble for the stupidest things, so now my name is etched in every single desk in detention hall. think of how many desks could be saved if the "responsible" adults understood that not everybody's perfect

don't you hate it when adults (especially parents) compare you to "the perfect kid?"

obviously these adults aren't looking beneath the clothes and the blue hair. obviously they aren't looking back to when they were our age.

they dont understand that being a kid is more about having fun than learning about politics and table manners (does anyone really know why elbows look so ugly on tables?)

its like you are walking down the street, and some lady you've never met before comes up and gives you a speech on how careless you are (she's probably drunk)

i just dont know what to say cuz i don't get it.

never stop being original!!just dont lissen to what others say. some day they will wish that they would have do what they wanted to do, enstead of following what ever the popular person did. being ur own person is the coolest thing ever and it is also so hard to come by these days.

my parents got discriminated against so i guess they think that it's their duty or something to discriminate teenagers of our time we're gonna do it to our kids so i guess it's just a generation thing our parents did things when they were teenagers that their parents discriminated against so i think it's more of what were used to in our generation were gonna think that what our kids listen to is crap what they dress like is crap and what their lingo's are is crap so it's all about generation or whether your a cool parent lol

why dont you stop thinking of what people say about you! just dont care. Some kids dont learned to be open-minded. they are just close-minded. predujice is rude. people need to stop telling people what to be.

I know exactly what you mean! You are to be your own person ignore what other people say to you. It might be hard, but if you believe in YOURSELF you can do anything. If you show people that you care what they think about you, the more they are going to pick on you to get you even more upset. But showing that you don't care and your not listening it will distance them away because all they want is attention and they want to look big on there part. But people seeing that he/she picks on you they see them has having a low self esteem. Just remember it doesn't make them look good. And don't stoop to there level you are a better person and you can show them that by being that.

ArtisticK-
I agree with you as always

Everybody-
I think adults might have prejudice against teens because of what they might have done or encountered when they were teens. They fail to realize that we are different people then themselves,and we are growing up in a different type of world.But they have to put aside their past experiences and trust in us as an individual and trust in the way and they taught us. Am I right people?
-K.

I couldn't agree with you more, Drakai. I've had SEVERAl incounters with adults where they don't trust me. Now I can understand that if they don't know me that they might think that. But they VERY rarely accuse adults of anything. Adults are supposed to be more mature than us which is not true in a lot of cases. My best friends mom will NEVER let her come up here. Neither I nor her know why, but it's crazy. My friend (let's just call her Kate), Kate, SHE'S the one that has to clean the house and SHE'S the one that has to take care of the cats. This is just MORE proof that adults are sometimes less intellegent than us and they think they're so superior that they can take advantage of us!! I don't have a clue of what we can do about this but I'm sure that whatever IS done about it, we get more trust.

I think the media has played a HUGE role in the defaming of the reputations of teenagers. The news, to "stir up controversy" chooses stories that have teenagers in positions that would be that of someone 30 years older than them. But what about the criminals that are actually 30 years older than them and are committing crimes at the same time as the teens? If you look at the court system, there is a very small juvenile branch, and the rest is a massive branch for people over the age of 18. The bottom line is, teenagers are really not the enemy. There are a choice few that have messed up. However, the media takes the few teenage crime stories and blows them up into the national scandals we have, thus making adults believe that to steer little Jimmy in the right path, they should choose all his clothes and never let him make his own decisions until he's 18, and can be tried as an adult. Some parents see past it, and realize that we are human beings with consciences, too, and let us become our own people. And there is nothing wrong with punks. We're different. We're not bad. Stop making generalizations of people you don't know. Saying that punks are bad is very reminiscent of a certain civil rights battle. They looked different, and that was why people hated them, although their intentions were good. We look different, people hate us because of that, and all we want is peace in this world, and just to have a little fun. My rant is over. Buh bye ~alex

It isn't just some, I think that it is most. I am a good teen and so are most of you because you care about your future. However, Most teens don't care and they have the "live for today and go with the flow" mentality. When you grow up you will understand that you have to think about your future in order for you to have any hope. I have learned this at a young age, most teens haven't though and adults know this. That is why they are "predjudice". I think that you need to just deal with it and grow up. It is immature to go around complaining all of the time just because things aren't going your way. Once you grow up and deal with it life will be a lot better. Whae you are an adult you will learn that you don't always have the time to "get to know people" and that you have to make judgements. It is all part of life. The trick is to show people that they are wrong and act mature and lawful always. If you do this people will seperate YOU from the rest of the teenagers.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.

i think adults totally subestimate us. I mean how many of our parents would actually think that we get involved in this kind of discussions daily, how many of them think that we care about the issues of the world and we like to be informed of then. I think that a lot of adults tend to see teens as careless persons, which is absurd. Sometimes i feel like they want to protect us or something but in the end this issues affect us even more because in a few years well have to take care of them, yet at the same time they give us this weight of being the ??relay?? generation.

"the old will die, and we shall be the new old. then all shall be up to us." - Void. Good point there. The cycle will continue, and in time the discriminated will become the discriminators. When that time comes, we can end the cycle of discrimination against people who are "too young to think" . We can change this for those to come, just start the wheels turning now and complete the revolution when you have become what discriminates against you.

It's quite simple, just wait awhile. the old will die, and we shall be the new old. then all shall be up to us. just make sure you don't forget what it's like to be a teen, during the next forty years.

just think, our generation could be the one that ends biais in all it's hidious forms.

why teach an old dog new tricks?
when you have a whole bunch of young dogs to teach?



well...that's my opinion, anyway.

that those teens that are give a bad name to all teens act the way they do because they can do it and get away with it because they are teenagers and suppose. This is an idealogy of many adults I know. It telling teens you dont have to be responsible because you arent going to be anyway. that just makes me want to show them I am wrong. I show them I ahve an oppinion and am responsible at the same time....wow.

whats worng with punks? I'm a punk and i'm just a normal kid. everybody sayz be you be original and by being punk, a lot of people are. you know what i mean? so i mean i get made fun of a lot at school. so just
don't make fun of anyone. its rude and uncalled for usually.

I think that the way you dress can express the person you are in a way because teens now a days pick out most of thier clothes with the supervision of parents at times and whatever you pick out tells what you like and people who wear abercromie and stuff in that class of clothing are not always stuck up but it can show that they like nice things,wealthy things in life. I agree when you say adults judge teens by the way they dress and I do think that sometimes it can be wrong, sometimes it can be harsh and that is really messed up. It will happen for a while , maybe it will never end we never know. But people have thier own opinions and you have to let them think what they want.
Aight 1

first of all, i'd like to reply to goldcoyote and the remark about "punk" clothing. People, adults, AND TEEN AND KIDS need to realize that the clothes people wear don't reflect what kind of person they are. the punk clothing, or goth, or anything other than the preppy, "acceptable" styles of Abercrombie and Fitch, Gap, and all the other overpriced companies, is to make a statement of "I will not be part of your materialistic "money is everything" idealology".
the "punks" are about freedome for all, and reducing hate. just because they have a different way of expressing it doesn't mean they should be discriminated...BY ANYONE.

now, i have been discriminated upon by adults. i feel that sometimes, adults blame teens just because they can. i've been focused on because of my clothing, and because of my attitude and strong opinions, and my grades and smartness. teachers often stereotype me that i will be a wonderful student who always agrees and listens because i am smart. news to them, i'm always ready to openly disagree! for this, i get labeled as "snotty." my parents have had problems with my friends, without knowing them, judging only by the fact we're teens and we talk alot. it's nuts! yes, many teens are poor examples of who we really are, but the good outweighs the bad, i think.

outspokenme (aka Kim)

This is one of those -isms that isn't even recognized: ageism. Teenagers and the elderly are the most discriminated against. I once read a really offensive quote about teenagers in TV Guide... unfortunately, I can't remember what it was, but if the word "black" or "Jew" or whatever were substituted, it would be unprintable filth. (Too bad I can't remember it... sorry... ) And have you seen those Frontline documentaries on PBS?! It's disgraceful... they set out to prove that teenagers are immoral sheep incapable of making sound decisions. True, I know a TON of teens who are like that, but guess what? I know lots more ADULTS who are like that too!! I say that obnoxious teenagers grow up to be obnoxious adults.
I'm not a teenager anymore (turned 20 last Thursday), but I still remember all the prejudices I got when I was younger, and I promised myself that when I grow up, I won't be like those adults that look down on anyone who is between the ages of 11 and 20.

Jill

P.S: One reason I prefer these message boards to others is that you guys act much more mature than the adults on the other message boards I've been on! You all ROCK!

Maybe we get judged because our parents remember how they acted when they were our age. hehe. Just a thought. In my mind, oftentimes if you demand respect, and walk in with your head held high, and not wearing what adults would consider "punk clothing", but wear jeans that aren't down to your knees, without holes, and shirts that aren't black with some death message; you get much better results.

Hehe Just having some fun here

GoldCoyote

That's very true! I have been been faced with predjuice many times..perhaps too many to count! I have had a very difficult life..I have endured many kinds of teenage prejudices, and I wish it would end! But I'm not sure if it ever will!