Pandora, sweetie, you didn't "choose" to be heterosexual -- you just are. You can't help how you feel or control it. That is a point enough for why your sexual orientation is not a choice. Argument closed.

Now Pandora please stop while you're behind before you begin to sound like even more of a closet case..

Ok Elton John is not one of the greatest muscians and what does that have to do with me anyway. Ok sexual orientation yeah that's a choice. Yeah why would GOD chose certain people to go to hell? No gays don't keep to themselves or then we wouldn't have to hear about it 24/7. Ok have you seen that new show that's coming on about five gay men trying to change the world one straight gay at a time. If that's not sick then tell me what is? They are promoting gays and it's disgusting.

The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals.. it's just that they need a little more supervision.

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So if it's not a choice or a sickness then what is it?

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It's a sexual orientation, you dumb ****.

how are gays bad for america? terrorists are bad for america. child molesting priests are bad for america. racists are bad for america. murderers are bad for america. what do gays do? they keep to themselves.

you know Eminem is ok with Elton John, one of the greatest musicians ever

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that's not a gay people thing...that's a guy thing...

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Ah! I am still laughing about that.

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Ok Nik then you give me reasons then that's not a choice.

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Say homosexuality is a choice. A choice that will most likely shame your family, make you lose contacts with some of your idiotic, close-minded friends, make it harder to be accepted in society, make it harder, possibly, to get a job. You can't get married, or you would at least have to go to another state (isn't it Vermont? sry, I'm not sure) to get married. If you watch The Laramie Project it says that there were no gay bars in Wyoming, that they had to leave their state just to go to a bar. And I live in North Carolina, and I can't think of any gay bars here. All those hassles go along with "choosing" to be gay, not to mention the threat of death lurking over your shoulder ALL THE TIME. Now you tell me why anyone would CHOOSE to be homosexual.

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Don't give me that why would people want to get harassed, b/c that's the oldest argument and it's stupid.

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Yeah why would people choose to get beat up and harassed well you tell me since yall know absolutely everything.

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Read those two quotes.
Now I am in a huge dilemma because I don't even know where to begin making fun of you and razzing you on your incredible contradiction.

Ok Nik then you give me reasons then that's not a choice. Don't give me that why would people want to get harassed, b/c that's the oldest argument and it's stupid. Ok Earthgoddess I never said gays was like the KKK or that they needed abortion pills. I said the KKK is bad for America just like gays are. Also I'm not a mini Eminem, b/c if I was America would hear all the stuff I have to say just like you guys do. Ok Amaris 10 couples not people. Yes AIDS is bigger in the gay community especially among gay men. Yeah it's alot harder for a man to get AIDS from a women so they formed a study to see where all the men was getting AIDS and guess what they was gay. Ok gay men. This world is not overpopulated. China would be considered overpopulated. We have people killing children so our population will drop and especially since all these people are becoming gay. So if it's not a choice or a sickness then what is it? Yeah why would people choose to get beat up and harassed well you tell me since yall know absolutely everything.

How can anyone with even the meager intelligence of an ant compare the gay population with the Ku Klux Klan? Seriously, you all need to enlighten yourselves on world affairs before you make any more eccentric indictments.

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Gay people shouldn't get married either. They shouldn't be allowed to get married. America shouldn't support it at all. It's like America supporting the KKK.

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It's not like that comment was made for attention of anything.. Spare us, Mini Eminem.

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Well you do make a choice. So who wants to say it's a choice or a sickness? It has to be one of those and I believe it's a choice. Why people chose to have sex with the same sex is beyond me, but people do.

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I'm stil curious about how it's a choice. I could make plenty of points as to why it's not but as for it being a choice the only argument I've hear so far is "because it is." I'm still a bit confused. Enlighten me!

I just want to clear up something about people saying that gay people are not monogomous and all that...umm...that's not a gay people thing...that's a guy thing... it only makes sense that guys who love other guys would have sex more because that's what guys do...it's not because their gay...it because their men....and lesbians also are quicker to form long lasting relationships...because that's what women do...it doesn't go for everybody... but just want to clear that up

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Well you do make a choice. So who wants to say it's a choice or a sickness? It has to be one of those and I believe it's a choice.

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No it doesn't have to be one of those... how about it's a sexual orientation...

I do not beleive being gay is a sicknes, an affliction, a fault, a mistake, an abnormality, or any of those things. I am proud to be gay and I'm not sick.

WHAT?!?

First of all, the KKK used to hang blacks from trees, or drag them through the streets from behind their cars, the KKK HATES gays. i dont remember hearing about gays doing sh** like that in history class.

Second, WHERE THE F*** did you get the idea that AIDS is bigger in the gay community?? its a myth that has been disproven years ago. its far more frequent in the heterosexual community.

and since when do gay guys/girls need abortion pills? why do we need more children anyway? we're already over populated! no matter what you friggin say there is going to more and more people coming into this world. by the time you're done reading this there will at least 100,000 new babies born.

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Gay people shouldn't get married either. They shouldn't be allowed to get married. America shouldn't support it at all. It's like America supporting the KKK.

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And how the **** is America supporting gay marriages like America supporting the KKK? Where is the logic?

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And so what you can find homosexuals that are monogamus. Number one I'm sure you can find some. Number 2 you cant find 1,000. Probably not even 10

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Actually, there is no mention of homosexual couples. You said I couldn't find ten homosexuals that are monogamous, not ten homosexual couples.

Amaris I said couples not people. 10 couples is different than 10 people. I never said I didn't believe you I never said you was lying.

Well you do make a choice. So who wants to say it's a choice or a sickness? It has to be one of those and I believe it's a choice. Why people chose to have sex with the same sex is beyond me, but people do. Gay people shouldn't get married either. They shouldn't be allowed to get married. America shouldn't support it at all. It's like America supporting the KKK. The AIDS virus is bigger in the gay community. And know with the abortion pill we may not have as many children being born. That reduces it by alot. Thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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i think homosexuality is wrong, on many levels, and if i think so, i will say so. that is not harrassing you, that is just saying what i think. you chose to be gay, no matter what you say, no matter what you cite to prove how it's "not your fault", you chose to take those steps into becoming gay, the same way a girl loses her virginity. it's not her fault that she had those feelings, but it is her fault that she slept with the guy.

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Well, I do agree with you in a sense. You're right...it is your choice to act on those feelings...but what does it mean to be gay? Does it mean to just have those feelings or to act on them? If it just means to have those feelings then it is not a choice...if you define it by acting on them, then it is...But don't we all have a choice in everything? We always have a choice...Most of the time one option is just a whole lot better than another...and about how you said "not your fault" ...I don't think it is a fault at all...I'm not ashamed of being gay...however you define it...and I choose to act on my feelings because if I didn't I would be miserable and would not be living the way I wanted to...

Well... I'm a lesbian and I'm totally behind you, andrew. One of the things that gets me is people who are against allowing gay people to get married...I can understand that people don't agree with homosexuality or don't understand it, but I can not understand why someone would want gay people getting married to be illegal...Because whether or not gay people get married, does not do anything to affect those people who choose not accept homosexuality...it does not do anything to them or the choices they make in their life...not allowing gay people to get married is just like censorship...I mean who cares...you don't have to do it if you don't want to...it's incredibly selfish and narrow minded and inconciderate for people to beleive that gay people shouldn't get married.

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i think homosexuality is wrong, on many levels, and if i think so, i will say so. that is not harrassing you, that is just saying what i think. you chose to be gay, no matter what you say, no matter what you cite to prove how it's "not your fault", you chose to take those steps into becoming gay, the same way a girl loses her virginity. it's not her fault that she had those feelings, but it is her fault that she slept with the guy.

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I think you're confusing a predetermined choice with action. Obviouly, you knew you were straight before you had sex (or any physical activities with the opposite sex) you *can't* argue that. So that rules it out as being a choice. I mean do you honestly think if homosexuals didn't enjoy activities with the same sex the way you do with the opposite sex they would do it? Do I even have to say "give me a break"? I'm just totally lost on how you can still think it's a choice. Please elaborate

besides the fact that it says in the Bible. I'm not saying anything because voiced opinions always come back to haunt you.
But i can't help noticing how similar some of your comments

ex: it's only wrong because the majority of people think it's wrong

are a lot like psycological problems. OCD is only wrong because most people aren't afraid of contamination by little things, or needing to skip every 4th step or little things like that. Most people have little or no fear of germs in everyday things, so it seems to the average person that that person needs help. Sure it's painful for that person to handle money or turn a door knob without decontaminating it first, but they get over it.

i'm not saying that homosexuality is wrong, i'm DEFINATELY not making fun of people with conditions like OCD.
I'm arachnaphobic, but big deal, because no one makes fun of me. The average person sees this as ok. It doesn't impair my everyday life so big deal. Some things are bigger deals, and maybe this is why a lot of people see homosexuality as a problem, or even a sin.