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If I would have said you probably cant find 20 couples you probably would've said I know 20 people so it doesnt matter about that part.

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No, actually I wouldn't have said I know twenty people because I don't. But I do know ten people. You are keeping in mind that ten homosexuals in a monogamous relationship means five couples, right? You just can't accept the fact that someone can prove you wrong. I don't care if you believe me or not, it's the fact that I know you were wrong.

Thank you Calilaw. We all have our opinions and my opinion is it's wrong.Hey Lifeisgood. Prove me wrong then. I really don't care about your gay relationship. That's not my buisness so you stay monogamus if you want. It's still wrong.
Amaris you know ten people. Ok then. If I would have said you probably cant find 20 couples you probably would've said I know 20 people so it doesnt matter about that part. I mean people will lie you know. Like I said before I believe it's wrong and none of yall can tell me otherwise. I don't care how many people you find it's not going to change my opinion on ANYHTING.

I'll just second everyone who said there are homosexuals in monogamus relationships. I know some that do just mess around, but no more than straight people I know do. These days a lot of people experiment; it's got nothing to do with your sexual orientation but your beliefs, personality, choices.

pandora, 100 gays out of some 100 million or more across the world dont represent all gays.

do you know why you hear about all these stories of gays being killed or beat up because of it? because the liberal media wants you to, they want you to think that you are in danger and that they will save you. because if you aren't, then you have no need for them, so they think. so they trick you into thinking people don't like you because of your homosexuality. i have been made fun of for my race, my religion (or lack of), my sexual orientation, my heritage, my political beliefs, and you know how i deal with that? i don't whine about being oppressed, i don't ***** about discrimination, i buck up and deal with it, because you know what, it is a part of life. i'm sure if you weren't gay, people would find some other reason to make fun of you (or your boyfriend). now, i know many gay people, and i love them to death. they are good friends of mine, but just because i love them, doesn't mean i love what they are doing. i think homosexuality is wrong, on many levels, and if i think so, i will say so. that is not harrassing you, that is just saying what i think. you chose to be gay, no matter what you say, no matter what you cite to prove how it's "not your fault", you chose to take those steps into becoming gay, the same way a girl loses her virginity. it's not her fault that she had those feelings, but it is her fault that she slept with the guy. same goes for you, and since you made that choice, you now need to deal with the consequences. you can't force people into accepting homosexuality because they have a right to their opinions, to say what they want and to think what they want and effort on your part to limit that borders on facism. just think about it...

i dont think i can get my friend to join but he's certainly in a monogamus relationship right now.

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Hey Nik see the thing is we are not talking about heterosexuals relationships. And so what you can find homosexuals that are monogamus. Number one I'm sure you can find some. Number 2 you cant find 1,000. Probably not even 10. Look here ok thats what the topic was about. And yeah actually was a scientific survey. They actually got gays to tell us about. Hey they are the ones who are telling all their buisness. Hey the truth hurts doesnt it.
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Okay, I agree with burgermeister. It is very hard to find homosexuals because we are all afraid of comming out because of the taunting that would surely be there and the crazies who would like to hurt us. I say if you are in a monogamous relationship lets tell pandora. If you know someone get them to be a member of youthnoise just to let pandora know she is wrong. There are hundreds most likely thousands of us who are in a monogamous relationship

I am bisexual...I am engaged to marry a bisexual...Come on...I made the first move...now lets see those other love birds prove pandora wrong!!

Did you think that maybe there are fewer homosexuals in monogamous relationships because it's harder to FIND other homosexuals, never mind homosexuals that share the same interests, hobbies, etc...

I know I haven't yet...

*fingers crossed*

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Number 2 you cant find 1,000. Probably not even 10.

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That's not true. I know more than ten homosexuals who are in a monogamous relationship, so what you said is bull****. I don't know how many homosexuals you think there are in the world, but I can say for a fact that there are more than 1000 who are in a monogamous relationship.

Hey Nik see the thing is we are not talking about heterosexuals relationships. And so what you can find homosexuals that are monogamus. Number one I'm sure you can find some. Number 2 you cant find 1,000. Probably not even 10. Look here ok thats what the topic was about. And yeah actually was a scientific survey. They actually got gays to tell us about. Hey they are the ones who are telling all their buisness. Hey the truth hurts doesnt it.

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Yeah see the thing is if gays cant get married then they are committing adultery in God's eyes. Well thats two sins right there. As far as homosexuals being in a relationship for the love. Well the study that I've read asked 100 gay couples if they was in a monogomus relationship. Do you know how many couples said yes. 0!!!!!!
Well that says aomething about the gay community right there.

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I bet that must have been such a scientific survey. Darling, if I wanted, I could find 1,000 heterosexual that are not monogamous. Are you telling me these are unbiased? By the way I could probably find 1,000 homosexual couples who ARE monogamous.

Yeah see the thing is if gays cant get married then they are committing adultery in God's eyes. Well thats two sins right there. As far as homosexuals being in a relationship for the love. Well the study that I've read asked 100 gay couples if they was in a monogomus relationship. Do you know how many couples said yes. 0!!!!!!
Well that says aomething about the gay community right there.

whether ppl want to be gay or they were born gay...its their business. the principal at my school my is a lesbian and shes no different from any other school staff member except for the fact that she lives with a woman. and just because someone is gay doesnt make them a pedafile or pervert, either. It's their business, no one elses. Some people just cant change the way they are and not that its wrong to be gay...its just not exactly normal. Its not against the law, God made humans to be different from each other so i dont see why people discriminate so much against gays, because u never know, you may end up being hurt so much by the opposite sex that you just trust people of the same sex better.

nicely put!

Sodom & Gomorrah
I would like to add, can anyone honestly sit here and tell me that these places weren't destroyed by volcanos and not God's wrath? And of course they went up in flame, if not from the volcano...how bout the tar pits all around? Noah's Arc according to the bible landed on Mt. Ararat(in area of Sodom & Gomorrah)..guess what? Look it up...it's a volcano. God's wrath was used as an explanation of the unexplainable at that time.

These sorts of sexual acts were happening all over according to the bible, yet God selected Sodom & Gomorrah to make an example...riiiighhht! Those people were in the wrong place at the wrong time!

Oh Lot's wife turning to a pillar of salt you ask? Do some research on the dead sea(where Sodom & Gomorrah are) and you'll learn about it's world famous salt pillars formed even to this day. In fact school kids in that area refer to the funny shapes as "Lot's Wife". Is it because of God or is it because the dead sea has 7% more salt in it's water then anywhere else in the world?

Hey I agree with the whole 10 yr olds shouldnt be saying they're gay and stuff....it's kinda psychologically damaging for them...

But I stand firm that homosexuality isn't wrong. The Bible, although inspired by God, was written in pre-scientific times and in a different culture and whatnot. It can't taken word for word (how many hands have your parents cut off every time you 'dishonored them)and I feel many of us ***selectively choose*** the parts we want to believe...and disregard others

Throughout history many Bible verses were used to condone slavery and racism as well as the oppression of women. These things were the norm back then, these things were "ok". Now, you tell me, do we allow these things today? No...

Ok ok, and you say, just because some parts of the Bible don't apply to our modern day society it doesn't mean we disregard the whole thing. The "anti-gay" passages I've seen in the Bible don't condemn homosexuality, they condemn homosexual acts and promiscuity, as does the Catholic Church. But then again I'm a little iffy on it because people should be able to express their love in some way that goes beyond hugs and kisses like straight ppl do...it's kinda like a catch 22. Homosexual acts r condemned bc they r outside of marriage (fornication) yet again, homosexuals can't marry...nor can the Church allow for this bc it would go against the foundation of marriage set up in Geneis, where a man and woman become one.

I'm not sure what to think about the whole homosexual acts thing...but I do stand firm homosexuality is ok so long its not promiscous and not done for solely vice and pleasure. I don't think people choose to be gay, I don't think they choose to grow up in a hostile environment and face the threat of death and I don't think they choose to be beaten up and called names and left to die in the cold like the long departed rest in peace Matthew Shepard.

Sure, I'm not saying homosexuals are saints...but then again, neither r heterosexuals. Whether they go to hell or not, I don't know. If I said "no" then I would be ***Selectively choosing*** what I want to believe. No one knows who's right. Only God knows.

I mean aren't there people out there who show compassion towards gay people? If so, isn't God the ultimate example of any human virtue, therefore having more compassion Himself?


My belief is, and this is in the Bible, that everyone who believes in Him and Jesus's saving sacrifice will be saved...since He will not look upon the size of our actions BUT the size of our faith in Him.

why do you care so much about what they do sexually? and why are you going to gay clubs anyway?

i have no problem at all with gays, but im not thinking about what they do to each other at their clubs. the same goes for heterosexuals.

oh so gays are having sex in the streets now? whether they say they are gay or not they're still gay.

Okay.. The last thing I am is a homophobe. I have NOTHING aginst gays or lesbians.I hate how people just feel like they should beat homosexuals up. I mean they are human beings too!! I have alot of gay friends.. and they are as sweet as can be! But when people make fun of them.. I feel hurt..then I start yelling at the people who are making fun of them. They have no right to make fun of a person that is gay. It doesn't matter if you are bisexual,lesbian, or gay, every person is a living, breathing human being. I am bisexual, but noone realy knows. I am only 13 and I don't want to be made fun of.

At my school, there was this gay kid.. and everyone made fun of him.. a couple of weeks later he moved because of people making fun of him. I could of stopped everyone from making fun of him.. but I didn't.. and I really regret it now. He was soo sweet. But yea.

Stay safe..

- Skate

Yeah people are going to accept gays whether we like it or not thats where the peoblem is. The problem is they arent keeping it in their bedrooms. When people didnt come out back in the day it was so much better. Thats how they shouldve kept it.

if its so hilarious to you then why are you going into "Defense mode". you're starting to act like a child. and i dont see any hilarity in this situation. people are being brutally murdered because they choose to be gay and all you care about is what they do in the privacy of their bedrooms and then you start to laugh at us for no reason at all. yes you are a sick person. and if you'd sit down and THINK for a while you'd see that. our society is going to accept gays whether you like it or not. america isnt going to turn out the way YOU want it too, its going to become what the majority of the population wants it to be.

only hate what deserves to be hated. if gays were the meanest people in the world then i'd probably hate them too. but thank goodness they arent. there are black christians in my old church that even forgive the Ku Klux Klan of all people.

so maybe you should cut the "oh this is hilarious" bull**** and do some legitimate discussion. but if you cant say anything even vaguely thoughtful you should probably leave this topic alone.