I have never been prouder! I looked at some things on this bored and i must say! Britta,icm91,burgermeister,Amaris,caramelapple,Dante,earthgoddess, I am glad there are people like you in the world. I have alot of gay and by friends and tho i know it is a lot better in CT then in alot of other places in the world including the USA...there is still jerks who don't understand. They say it just isn't right. I am staight and i think it is just fine! My friend Jess (who is by) is with me right now and says thanx to you all. It really brings up your spirts when you see other people supporting sexual freedom! Thanx! ttyl
Well I hate to tell you but I do know homosexuals and they know exactly how I feel. We talk about it all the time and they respect my opinion. They understand where I come from and they don't give me that crap about being ignorant. As far as giving you a reason why it's wrong that doesn't come from the bible why should I? That's where I get my thinking from, the BIBLE. If my beliefs come from the bible then why is that such a big problem with you. If everyone in this world was christians then it would be a better place. Like I said love the person, but hate the sin and my friends completly understands me. They still ahng out with me and talk to me. It's not like I don't talk to them. So like I said that's what I believe and it's not changing. Earth Goddess if you dont agree with me then that's fine, but I still have my own opinion and I can express it any way I want to.
quote: most of the people who dont have a problem with homosexuality are the people who actually know homosexuals personally. you should get to know some before jumping to any conclusions, because they are people too.
Yeah, basically. I know someone who's gay. If he didn't tell you he was gay you'd never know. He doesn't go around flipping his hand or anything like that. Before he told everyone he was gay, he seemed like the straightest person on the planet. He's just like everyone else. I have to say, that personally, I've never felt uncomfortable or threatened when I was around him, he's just like everyone else.
quote: but I don't hear ya'll talking about bringing up other races.
Well maybe you're not looking hard enough. This topic is about homosexuality, so it's obviously going to be talking about homosexuality. But I can promise that if you go to Ending the Isms, you will find lots of posts on racism. So don't even give us that bull**** that we aren't talking about other races.
pandora, most of the people who dont have a problem with homosexuality are the people who actually know homosexuals personally. you should get to know some before jumping to any conclusions, because they are people too.
and if you really have so much of a problem with them that you cant get yourself to know any, you should probably ignore them. if their lifestyle is so disgusting to you, you should just turn the other way instead of telling us homosexuality is wrong because most of us dont even agree with you.
okay everyone gets mistreated. Blacks, latinos, whites, and yes homosexuals. We can't change that, but I don't hear ya'll talking about bringing up other races. My eyes are open and no I don't have to agree that homosexuality is right. Amaris it doesn't matter what you say to me my mind is made up. It's wrong!!! Just get over it. Not everybody will have the same opinion and that's that.
quote: So don't make it look like they are getting mistreated so badly in this country.
Well, they are being mistreated, and you would probably realize that if you would open your eyes. Does Matthew Sheppard mean anything to you? Are you saying murder isn't mistreatment?
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (KJV): Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Co 6.9 and 1 Tim 1.9-10: In these passages we are given the distinct impression (in English translations) that homosexuality is sin. However, the Greek words used here do not refer to the homosexual proper. The first word, malakoi, is translated numerous ways: effeminate, male prostitute, catamite (a boy kept by a child molester) in other Greek literature. In fact, the literal translation of this word is "soft" and we have no idea what it means in this context (especially, since we find this word in a "list" format, there is no real "context" from which to derive a meaning anyway). It could just as easily have been translated malleable, coward, sickly, lacking self-control or morally weak (in a general sense), none of which have any specific homosexual connotations. It is found several other times in Scripture, being translated as soft or fine referring to clothing in Matt 11:8 and Luke 7:25, and infirmity or malady in Matt 4:23, 9:35, and 10:1.
The second word, arsenokoitai, translated in the NIV as "homosexual offenders", is actually best translated as sexual aggressor (with the connotations of a rapist or slave trader), or male prostitute. This word is found in no extant Greek literature prior to Paul's use here, which complicates our understanding of the word.
The strongest argument that leads one to believe that Paul was referring specifically to general homosexuality is the possibility that Paul coined this term himself. If this is the case, then he probably created this compound word from the Septuagint (the ancient Greek version of the Old Testament) translation of Leviticus 20:13 (kai hos an koime:the: meta arsenos koite:n gunaikos...). However, this passage refers specifically to the holiness codes and thus probably implies some kind of ritual uncleanness (and again, this assumes both that he coined the term, and that he intended the term to refer back to this passage, neither of which have strong evidence).
Moreover, one wonders why, if Paul is going to go to the extent of creating a novel word to prohibit male homosexual behavior, why doesn't he, in the same verse, create a complementary word prohibiting female homosexual behavior. The conspicuous absence of such a prohibition implies one of two things: 1) If Paul is using the term arsenokoitai to refer to homosexual behavior at all, he not prohibiting all homosexual behavior, only some type of male homosexual behavior that produced ritual uncleanness in the mind of the first century church (unless he is allowing for female homosexual behavior, prohibiting only male homosexual behavior), or 2) he is, in fact, not referring to homosexuality at all in these passages. In either case, neither arsenokoitai nor malakoi are justifiably translated as homosexual in any other Greek literature, which makes one question why they are translated that way here.
homosexuals are being treated quite horribly from what i've seen. death treats, being told they're going to hell, being told that God is going to order his people to stone them to death, and some unfortunate people have been killed because of their sexual preferences.
not only is it hard for homosexuals its hard for their families and friends. if someone was threatening to kill my friend because he was gay, they would have to answer to me first.
1 CORINTHIANS 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of GOD? Do not be decieved: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders.... will inherit the kingdom of GOD.
It tells us also to love the person and hate the sin. Well I love everyone, but I don't have to believe homosexuality is right. I don't have to condone it no matter what any of you people say. Yeah the Bible was written by mortal hands, but those hands was told what to write by GOD. Hey some of you people may not like it and some may think I'm wrong, but neither one of you are the person I have to answer to in the end so it doesn't matter. I think it's wrong and you can agree or disagree, but that's you.
Yeah people do think it's cool to be gay, because they always obsence stuff like that. Yeah America have screwed yp our ten year olds into thinking that it's right. And yeah adoption is a special right, getting a job is also. Not everyone can adopt right not everyone can get a job. Bums on the street can't so it's a privilage. And about the Bible it's not following it blindly. The bible was written by men of God and God told them what to right. Like I said just because America has twisted your perception into thinking it's right it's not. Yeah let me know
quote: man... i just saw some anti-gay demonstraters today and they held up signs that said "Thank God for AIDS" and "AIDS is God's curse" its been bothering me all day.
it makes me wonder how those people would feel if one of their family memebers were gay.
I wonder how they would feel if they got AIDS. AIDS is not the "gay disease." Regardless of sexual orientation, you can get AIDS. I can't believe that sign!! So crazy. Think about Africa and the billions Bush is planning on helping their AIDS crisis.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. I'll have to ponder that for awhile.... hummmm....ignorant people....hmmmmmmmm.
I think its great that you just came out and said that you were gay. I think its wrong to discriminate against homosexuals and even more wrong to kill them. I actually have a close friend who is gay. And he is a great guy! Some people will never know how great he is because they are afriad to get to know him. Basically, I think gay people are just normal people and its none of any elses business who whether the are straight or gay. It makes me happy to see people take pride in thier beliefs. Thats just my opinion tho...
man... i just saw some anti-gay demonstraters today and they held up signs that said "Thank God for AIDS" and "AIDS is God's curse" its been bothering me all day.
it makes me wonder how those people would feel if one of their family memebers were gay.
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