Wait I thought he loves all?

Why should God teach you to spell, what have you done for him?

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but can you explain to me why it was just taking the africans land

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Because of the uber land value..

What are you talking about? is there a Christonpia in Africa? Are not most Africans Muslim?

The Christians are taking my sand! Help!

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I'm sure God could even get a penguin or two in Israel. He might even teach you spell.

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ok i'm praying to God to help my spelling, we'll see what happens.

but can you explain to me why it was just taking the africans land?

Numbers 25 is about Moab women seducing men into converting to their pagan cultures. Again it is a Jewish thing, and at the time a way of enforcing the law. Weak.

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But of course you cant take everything the bible says litereally right?

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Name once when I have said that.
But of course facts are important to you, right?

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If God is love, and if God is also omnipresent, then the Devil cannot exist. If the Devil exists, God cannot be love and also be omnipresent. Yet, an omnipresent God of love and the Devil are both said to exist. so whats wrong here?

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God can choose where he wasn’t to be, and where he doesn't. He isn't obligated to be anywhere.

Can God dig a hole so deep he can't get out?

God can be around the devil if he wants. He is around us, and we commit evil. God can things that are impossible, he's God. What can God not do?

I'm not God, but God is around me and in me, that doesn't change God.

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Sorry I'm not as eager to bring on a fight as you, oh placid Christian

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I am only defending my belief. I am not picking the fight, I am just trying to put an end to it.

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Yeah you are right, it is too complex for me, I don't understand how Noah found pengiuns in Isreal.

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I'm sure God could even get a penguin or two in Israel. He might even teach you spell.

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What do you mean?

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Despite the psychosomatic, antireligious bigots on this thread, I'm still rootin' for you.

I believe in evolution and in early abortion, and I am not anti-Christian or even anti-relgion.

You were explaining Christianity from your point of view and I agree with almost everything you said.

Sorry I'm not as eager to bring on a fight as you, oh placid Christian.

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Ezra 9:2
I suppose this is your "racism" argument..
Weak.

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you forgot numbers 25.

8 And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel.

sounds pretty racist and and violent to me.. how does that teach peace and tolernce? Go other races for sleeping with your own? mixed children are bad?

But of course you cant take everything the bible says litereally right?

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I could make the argument people don't follow religion, only because it is to complex for their understanding, and be just as right on as you are.

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Yeah you are right, it is too complex for me, I don't understand how Noah found pengiuns in Isreal.

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If God is love, and if God is also omnipresent, then the Devil cannot exist. If the Devil exists, God cannot be love and also be omnipresent. Yet, an omnipresent God of love and the Devil are both said to exist. so whats wrong here?

Ezra 9:2
I suppose this is your "racism" argument..
Weak.

For one, these where Jewish people, not Christian, if you where looking for a Christian argument about this, you should have picked 2Corin 6:14-18. More than likely thought, your copying and pasting from a Anti-Christian Website.

It's about religion, The Jews where not allowed to marry outside of the Jewish faith.

Numbers 25

What's your point? I don't understand.

And your argument about wives, asked and answered. But again your more than likely coping and pasting.

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Ive also compared God to Santa and most of you didnt get it... The Santa myth is one of the most effective means ever devised for intimidating children, eroding their self-esteem, twisting their behavior, warping their values, and slowing their development of critical thinking skills.

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God- Good, Devil-Bad right?
Another poor argument. Their are many reason why his argument is so poor, mainly one is forgiveness. Another is it is completely unfounded, and largely subjective.

I could make the argument people don't follow religion, only because it is to complex for their understanding, and be just as right on as you are.

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So the bible was writtin by humans so of course its right

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So anything done by humans, is of course wrong...

Go back to coping and pasting.

Ive also compared God to Santa and most of you didnt get it... The Santa myth is one of the most effective means ever devised for intimidating children, eroding their self-esteem, twisting their behavior, warping their values, and slowing their development of critical thinking skills.

When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said let us close our eyes and pray. When we opened our eyes we had the Bible and they had the land.
~ Bishop Desmond Tutu

Oh and dont forget about the Salem witch trials either.


So far Ive pointed out sexism and racism.. but it dosnt stop there.

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What is the Bible?
The Bible is one of the oldest books in existence. Written (literally) thousands of years ago. It has numerous authors, from Kings to beggars, from Generals to prisoners, from doctors to the equivalent of a shoe shiner.

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So the bible was writtin by humans so of course its right

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Christianity teaches and promotes peace and tolerance the way McDonald's teaches and promotes a healthy diet.

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Ezra 9
2 For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass.

Numbers 25
6 And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
7 And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand;
8 And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel.

Ephesians 5
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

1 Peter 3
1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

Oh help us now...

Do we really need to know this?
-Sunset

what age were you brainwashed with all this christianity?

im "anti-religous", religion is for small minds.

What do you mean?

Poor, poor Korith.

And people say that I am evil.

Oh come on!

Where are all the "anti-Christians" when I need them! Figures, when i call for a debate no one speaks up, but when PaintBucket and tallyWhack run their stupid mouths off, you have many witty comments against Christians, and the Bible.

Lets hear them now! Give it to me!
Evolution, Abortion, death penalty, Crusades.. pick something! If not, I don't want to hear your bigotry anymore!