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Originally posted by Ilive4Him:

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Originally posted by Shade:
Honestly, people like you confuse me. Why and by whom will they be judged? Surely not you or I, dear mortal.

no, not me, not you, not my best friend, boyfriend or grama will be the judging these people on judgement day, God will, as we have been trying to tell you.....and chill out about the "one post" thing....i get it.....k???but i dont feel lyk doin that...

But DO YOU KNOW, aside from the bible, that God truly exists? That he will judge the living and the dead? And, no offense meant, please don't give the I just know HE's there, I can feel it" or the "Because I know God is with me" excuse. I give full props to anyone willing to believe in something higher, but what really angers me are people who refuse to critically think that there might be even a smidgen of chance that there might not be a higher power, because despite what we've read and have been taught, WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING

Right I know, I should just accept that most people on the internet seem to be from the US. But I can't

I never let myself get into these conversations about homosexuality because I know I don't have politically correct views, and I also know that I have never met an openly gay person and so I really cannot judge. But what the hell? Deep down, I feel homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe that you can be born gay because I don't think that sexuality even exists for a person before they hit puberty. I think it's a choice, and I think it's wrong. But I also think it's wrong to treat people differently based on their life choices or their preferences, and I also don't think that a growing gay community is really inflicting any sort of harm on society. So basically, I'm against denying anyone their rights no matter what (or who) they like to do but I personally think that it's not natural. And maybe that's just because it's not natural for me, I am completely open to that possibilty. Who knows?

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone. That's not my intent. I'm just in the mood to say what's on my mind.

I would like to point out that there are other religions out there who don't care. What a concept.

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Originally posted by Sphinx:

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The bible should be used as a guideline for SOME moral judgements

Well, the bible isn't the only divine scripture to condemn homosexuality - there's also the Qu'ran and the Torah right? It's not a specifically Christian concept... just thought I'd remind y'all about that. Carry on.

True, I do conceed to that. However, christianity has been the most outspken about it in the US...a constitutional ban!

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Originally posted by Shade:
Honestly, people like you confuse me. Why and by whom will they be judged? Surely not you or I, dear mortal.

no, not me, not you, not my best friend, boyfriend or grama will be the judging these people on judgement day, God will, as we have been trying to tell you.....and chill out about the "one post" thing....i get it.....k???but i dont feel lyk doin that...

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The bible should be used as a guideline for SOME moral judgements

Well, the bible isn't the only divine scripture to condemn homosexuality - there's also the Qu'ran and the Torah right? It's not a specifically Christian concept... just thought I'd remind y'all about that. Carry on.

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Originally posted by YouthVoice:

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Their day will come when they are truly judged.

According to the Bible, the day will come when ALL will be judged. Why is it necessary to point fingers as if you were completely righteous and say "Oh, the day will come when you will be judged." I don't get people who do that. If God will be the true judge according to their beliefs, why are they trying to do His job? Some people really amuse me.

Also, no offense to any religiosos, no one ever said the bible was the absolute truth. It's assumed that the bible was based on actual "assumed" events, but after so many revisions and ABSCENCES of different Gospels, it is an incredibly unwise decision for blind faith in such a text. The bible should be used as a guideline for SOME moral judgements, but the personal path of finding faith, or the lack thereof, is a journey only you can take.

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Their day will come when they are truly judged.

According to the Bible, the day will come when ALL will be judged. Why is it necessary to point fingers as if you were completely righteous and say "Oh, the day will come when you will be judged." I don't get people who do that. If God will be the true judge according to their beliefs, why are they trying to do His job? Some people really amuse me.

What would happen if they weren't judged? Wouldn't that be a twist? People say stuff like that with such conviction, but do they really know what God thinks? Mere mortals can't know what God will and will not do.

Honestly, people like you confuse me. Why and by whom will they be judged? Surely not you or I, dear mortal.

bisexuals have the right 2 do as they please but i think it's wrong but 2 be honest i really don't care what they do or when they do it. Their day will come when they are truly judged.

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but as christians, we read the bible, which tells us that same-sex marriage is wrong, and that we are not to do it

It does not! Would you quote your damn sources??

Also, we've told you before. Post once, not twice.

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Originally posted by Ilive4Him:
ok....i'll try Jaymeister.....here goes....

i honestly don't think that bisexuals are any less human than people who like the opposite sex....i believe that we are all equal....and you are right-giraffes are proven to be bisexual.....

and i don't believe that that homosexuals don't have the right to marry, they have the right to do whatever they please-am i right?? that is their choice..what they do with their life, and who they spend it with just as well....do you agree??

was that good???....no religion in there whatsoever.......just how you wanted it.

ok, thank you. I'm not trying to attack, it's just that from my experiance, most religious people I know have a very strong lack of critical thinking. And yes, I do agree with you in that to each his own. I just wasn't sure whether you were condoning it or just saying like you did.

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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:
I stopped lying a long time ago. Anyway, I'm not Christian and I have no reason to be.

ok...chill out...i never said you have to conform to christianity, or i'll shoot you in the head-did i??? if you don't want to be a christian...then that's your choice....so be it...no one is going to force you to do anything...

ok....i'll try Jaymeister.....here goes....

i honestly don't think that bisexuals are any less human than people who like the opposite sex....i believe that we are all equal....and you are right-giraffes are proven to be bisexual.....

and i don't believe that that homosexuals don't have the right to marry, they have the right to do whatever they please-am i right?? that is their choice..what they do with their life, and who they spend it with just as well....do you agree??

was that good???....no religion in there whatsoever.......just how you wanted it.

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Originally posted by Ilive4Him:

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Originally posted by Jaymeister:
So, why do you care about them being married? Judge not lest ye be judged.

i personally don't care..that's their choice....but as christians, we read the bible, which tells us that same-sex marriage is wrong, and that we are not to do it.....if they do then so be it......God will deal with them on judgement day.

What you're not getting is that the bible, specifically Matthew 1, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20, haven't been that way the whole time since it's original print; in fact since 100 years ago. They are changed according to the times. Also, the fact is that you shouldn't take everything that you read in the bible as fact. If that was true = no fossils, no Lucy, no Pangea theory, no VESTIBULAR ORGANS. The fact is that, since none of us were around at that time, the bible could have been the Harry Potter of its time. I personally believe that's a longshot, but in all probability it could be true. I admire your steadfastness in what you believe, but for goodness sake, we're in a forum for "ending the isms." Answer me these questions from a critical, NON-religious stand point. Plese try.
What makes homosexuals any less human that they are attracted to the same sex? Some animals are proven to have bisexual, if not homosexual tendencies.
How do you believe that homosexuals don't deserve the same rights as heterosexuals, like marriage which is NOT a religious institution unless you make it so?

I stopped lying a long time ago. Anyway, I'm not Christian and I have no reason to be.

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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:
God will judge self-righteous liars too....

you are right that is why i have confessed my sins, and He has forgave me, and don't even start with me....i know very well that you aren't innocent, and have never in your whole life lied......am i right??? just ask God for forgiveness.....and live for Him.....He's amazing, and he will work miracles in your life....if you give your life to Him....I'm sorry..............

God will judge self-righteous liars too....

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Originally posted by Jaymeister:
So, why do you care about them being married? Judge not lest ye be judged.

i personally don't care..that's their choice....but as christians, we read the bible, which tells us that same-sex marriage is wrong, and that we are not to do it.....if they do then so be it......God will deal with them on judgement day.