You just quoted the original post.

If you're going to post, say something of your own.

*nods head*

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Originally posted by loudandproud7:

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Originally posted by Hydrok:
Well, your frustration is shared, but not in the way you expect... I posted a thread called Massive Clarification in the "Ending the Ism's" forum... take a look at that and see if you can more closely identify with that.

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i suppose i'm a loose catholic then (very, very loose)

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Same here... you see... If some one cites what religion they are, I can argue a point based on that, but when someone simply states that they are "Christian" it leaves me with no clue.

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Originally posted by Hydrok:
Well, your frustration is shared, but not in the way you expect... I posted a thread called Massive Clarification in the "Ending the Ism's" forum... take a look at that and see if you can more closely identify with that.

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i suppose i'm a loose catholic then (very, very loose)

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Originally posted by Karategirl28:
Not everyone believes in the story of "adam and eve." Not everyone is that type of christian. you can't go against a religion if you aren't part of it to begin with.

"anyone who is should go to prision"
- who you tell that to someone's face? If your best friend was gay would you tell them that?

"It's just NOT RIGHT"
- who are you to say whats right and whats not anyways?

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She's to ***** to answer any of those questions, because she knows it's her own ignorance that allows her these ideas that gay people are bad people... and she wouldn't want to verify that fact would she?

"Better to keep your mouth shut and look like a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it"

Not everyone believes in the story of "adam and eve." Not everyone is that type of christian. you can't go against a religion if you aren't part of it to begin with.

"anyone who is should go to prision"
- who you tell that to someone's face? If your best friend was gay would you tell them that?

"It's just NOT RIGHT"
- who are you to say whats right and whats not anyways?

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Originally posted by yogore:

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see she wont have the balls to say that I personaly, because I said I was gay, should go to jail... I would verbally beat her down with my lasso of truth.

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You make a good point. Saying things about an unknown is easier than saying it to someone's face. Unknowns are always easier to scapegoat and stereotype.

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"The further someone is removed from personalization, the more curtiousness they lack."

Ever notice that people are rude over the phone and on chat rooms... but see them in person and they arn't so beligerant?

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see she wont have the balls to say that I personaly, because I said I was gay, should go to jail... I would verbally beat her down with my lasso of truth.

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You make a good point. Saying things about an unknown is easier than saying it to someone's face. Unknowns are always easier to scapegoat and stereotype.

I don't think that gays should go to jail. I think that people who think that should go to, well you know where. But yeah, that's all that I am saying.

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Originally posted by iamastar:
Sorry Hydrok. I guess I just misunderstood your post. Sorry about that.

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Well let me also extend some reasoning for wording it like I did... It is easy to say that all gays should go to jail... to no one in particular, like miss monica did, however, when it comes to actually facing someone and telling them that they belong in jail for being gay is a whole other story... see she wont have the balls to say that I personaly, because I said I was gay, should go to jail... I would verbally beat her down with my lasso of truth.

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Originally posted by loudandproud7:
i know i may be beating a dead horse here, but for future reference, don't use religion as a reason for why being gay (or anything) is wrong. it annoys even a newbie like myself. plenty of people aren't catholic here. science is the way to prove something is wrong, make sure you site your sources.
by the way, that isn't directed at anyone on this page, i put it here in case someone else read it.

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Well, your frustration is shared, but not in the way you expect... I posted a thread called Massive Clarification in the "Ending the Ism's" forum... take a look at that and see if you can more closely identify with that.

Sorry Hydrok. I guess I just misunderstood your post. Sorry about that.

i know i may be beating a dead horse here, but for future reference, don't use religion as a reason for why being gay (or anything) is wrong. it annoys even a newbie like myself. plenty of people aren't catholic here. science is the way to prove something is wrong, make sure you site your sources.
by the way, that isn't directed at anyone on this page, i put it here in case someone else read it.

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Originally posted by yogore:
My apologies Hydrok. You don't need to use yourself as an example. it is fine to say "a gay person" instead. But whatever you feel like saying, I guess.

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Nah is ok... I was kinda looking for a reaction anyway

My apologies Hydrok. You don't need to use yourself as an example. it is fine to say "a gay person" instead. But whatever you feel like saying, I guess.

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Originally posted by iamastar:
First off, I am going to start this post off by giving my props to gayquestionnare and Hydrok. For your courage to be open with others abut your sexuality when we are living in a time and country that can be judgemental. For being a good person to not let close-minded, idiodic, ignorant people get in your way or to get you down. And for having a heart that understands and is caring and kind to others. I know a few gay people and I look at them with so much respect. Don't change for anyone. Now on to the nitty-gritty part.

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Don't call it a lifestyle. It is not that.

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But in the lifestyle that one chooses to lead isn't his/her sexual orientation included because that is how he/she chooses the partner they will spend the rest of their life with? If so, then being gay/lesbian/bi/straight is a lifestyle because you incorporate it into your everday life.

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lifestyle
n : a manner of living that reflects the person's values and attitudes

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No matter if you are straight or not the lifestyle that you lead involves the belief you have and what your definition of what marriage and a family is about to you because it affects the way you live and therefore affecting the set values and attitudes of you and the people around you in your family.

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Umm everyone.... I'm not gay... I was using myself as an example so I wouldn't offend anyone... I am happily dating Karategril

For a while I had an icon that said "gay pride" on it. People must not have noticed. I've mentioned it on the boards acouple times too, but they were pretty missable if you weren't thinking about it. But I assumed since Ikki knew that almost everyone did. ^^;;

HeH LoL. I'm like the YN gayness. Gotta say something. I also want to say congrats to the other gay people on this site. Ice I don't know like if I am just stupid or don't read your posts but I had no clue you were. Hydrok I just started reading your posts but hey. Linkinparkgurl more poewr to ya mad luv. Hotgayguy newbie or not props. Just, I know a lot of people think that oh those ******s are shoving their lives in our faces but we're really not. The few of us who aren't afraid to stand up and say I'm gay (typical We're here and we're ***** LoL) and you are just gonna have to deal with it are the ones who are fighting for the rest of us. If we don't shove it in your face then it will never get dealt with! We are going to change it regardless of whether or not you like it. The sooner you get used to it the better. So all we're doing is desensitizing. Yogore you too? Once again I must be daft to no know all of you are gay. In real life I can spot a gay person a mile away though with fairly decent accuracy. =)

Ciao

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First off, I am going to start this post off by giving my props to gayquestionnare and Hydrok. For your courage to be open with others abut your sexuality when we are living in a time and country that can be judgemental. For being a good person to not let close-minded, idiodic, ignorant people get in your way or to get you down. And for having a heart that understands and is caring and kind to others.

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:::Feels leftout::: There are tons of gay people on Yn. I guess you can't name all of us. GQ, Sleeprocker, Ice, Linkinparkgirl, Hydrok, to name a few.

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But in the lifestyle that one chooses to lead isn't his/her sexual orientation included because that is how he/she chooses the partner they will spend the rest of their life with?

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The gender of the partner is all that is changed. The actions aren't.

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No matter if you are straight or not the lifestyle that you lead involves the belief you have and what your definition of what marriage and a family is about to you because it affects the way you live and therefore affecting the set values and attitudes of you and the people around you in your family.

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Does that mean my straight friends are living a gay lifestyle because they support gay marriage and gay rights?

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And no, if the US was founded on christian moral doctrine the ten commandments would be in our constitution.

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GQ pretty much summed up my thoughts. The constitution was influenced by the bible and christian values.

First off, I am going to start this post off by giving my props to gayquestionnare and Hydrok. For your courage to be open with others abut your sexuality when we are living in a time and country that can be judgemental. For being a good person to not let close-minded, idiodic, ignorant people get in your way or to get you down. And for having a heart that understands and is caring and kind to others. I know a few gay people and I look at them with so much respect. Don't change for anyone. Now on to the nitty-gritty part.

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Don't call it a lifestyle. It is not that.

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But in the lifestyle that one chooses to lead isn't his/her sexual orientation included because that is how he/she chooses the partner they will spend the rest of their life with? If so, then being gay/lesbian/bi/straight is a lifestyle because you incorporate it into your everday life.

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lifestyle
n : a manner of living that reflects the person's values and attitudes

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No matter if you are straight or not the lifestyle that you lead involves the belief you have and what your definition of what marriage and a family is about to you because it affects the way you live and therefore affecting the set values and attitudes of you and the people around you in your family.