I only hate those that offer no solutions to any problem except for faith. And Jehovah's witnesses. I once got clubbed with a bible by a jehovah's witness who found out I'm bi. It was pretty funny, to tell the truth.

Christians can't say what is wrong and what is right. I am a Christian, and saying something is sinning and that everyone that does that sin is going to the bad place(sorry) is just being hypocritic. Only God can say what is right and what is wrong; I will ask you one question: What did you hope to achieve? I know it was in your best of interests, but you need to know that God is the only one to say what's right and what's wrong. You sound as if you believe in God, you are just a little off. That said, you go.

P.S. I DO think that Homosexuality is wrong, I just don't shout it out so that every Homosexual will run away from Christianity.

also, icm, you're on here telling ppl to accept....yet you're dissin christians. i'm a christian, but i'm not all about 'we're the only right ones' or anything. we dont all think the way you have us pegged.....dont be so stereotypical. i mean, i usually agree w/ you, but come on. be logical. luvya!! peace&godbless

my opinion on the topic is kinda weird. i mean, i'm a christian and i beleive in what the bible says.....but i dont really see the wrong in homosexuality.we cant prove anything about it on either side, unless we actually ARE homosexuals, so who are non-homosexuals to talk?? how do we know whether or not people are "born gay" or whether or not they arent?? i dont think that it's as big of an issue as a lot of people are trying to make it....why can't everybody just love everyone?? i mean not in that special way, but if we just accept everybody for who they are, isnt that what the bible says to do anyways?? i'm confused and i'm sorry you all had to listen to this. peace&godbless, erica

I agree with Billy....though i've this to add:
a big reason people may think homosexuals are "predators" and that stuff that makes it to the news is ALWAYS bad stuff...you know, the priests raping the boys, the homosexuals raping kids, the guy found with porn on his computer and that forms a stereotype. That's like people thinking all priests are bad because of the select few that made headlines.

And thinking like that is just stupid. plain and simple.

-rito

Gatorade replied again:

just stop e-mailin me cuz i dont wanna hear ur bullsh*t and to say ur about peace and love is a load of crap because if u were about love why would you send me hateful e-mails. dont respond, its just something to think about.

My last comment on that email was a joke. My point is that no matter how hard we try, there is still hate inside of us. I do infact hate gatorade, but I'm trying to get passed this in my argument. However, there's a difference between our hate. I hate him for his blind hate. He hates me for who I love. I hate him, yet I don't say he's spouting nonsense. I give reasons, he gives "i'm right". He's claiming that I'm wrong in my assertions. despite, you know, being bi. I know I did not choose this. I did not choose this ridicule. All I chose was to try and defend it. And that is all that I can do.

But now for the fun part: everyone in this thread, please email and yell at gatorade. I will now show him what it's like to be the subject of ridicule for having the "wrong" idea.
Don't call me mean. You know you want to. I'm just giving him a taste of his own medicine.

I can't feel
the way I did before.
Don't turn your back on me
I won't be ignored.

love,
Poncho

Hi. This is monica. I just got back from the hospital. I still have cancer but am fighting it. I would like to say that I just heard of what the president is trying to do (make homosexuals not be able to marry). I have to say that this DEEPLY saddens me. You see, having cancer has tought me many things about life. I feel that not letting a person to marry who they want basically takes EVERYTHING america stands for and ruins it. President Bush is HORRIBLE for doing what he is doing. I vow that if this law is passed I will NEVER have any American pride again. I can not believe that this is happening. I would also like to say sorry for my posts before. I have not read any other posts yet and do not know if someone has already made a thread for this but oh well.

people shouldnt be judged on who they love. god made everyone his children. just love one another and forget about lifestyles. we all need to realise how great life is and respect eachother.

YES Umopepisdn,but he didn't instruct them to go out there and propagate the stupid pleasure they think they get from being homophobics.

A conservative jerk...

He pisses me off. But *he* is not the issue. It's the issue of homosexuality, here. That is what angers me.
Disgusting..


eternal enemy of dubbed/cut anime,
logos

I so have something for you....

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People fear gays because of their stereotypes as sexual predators, but this is almost always not true.

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what I am about to post is from another board I was on...you should like.

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http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/6351333.htm

Here is a link to the KC Star about two more gay guys raping a 13 year old boy and forcing him to watch them have sex. Sorry if I seem obsessed with pointing this out, but I truly believe homosexuals are sexual predators and must be stopped. They are not only abnormal, they are dangerous.

Tevis

ps. If this were not so serious, it would be amusing
how easy it is to find these stories.

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my response...

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Tevis,
no matter how I feel about gays, I believe you are blinded by hate. I could hate them, but I still could not dispute facts. The facts are for every story of homosexual molestation you post, I could post thirty about the horror of the heterosexuals. Whether it be a recent case of a man who raped his own daughter from the age of 1 until the age of 15. Or it be the story of a guy found with 141 thousand pictures of little girls being molested on his computer. Or the stories of girls as young as 12 being "turned out" to prostitution in our very New York City streets. Maybe that isn't your thing, maybe you want to hear about "white slavery" and the trafficing of young girls to places such as France, Russia and Albania. Maybe you don't know of the legal magazines in Europe where it is legal for girls as young as 16 to pose nude. Maybe that just doesn't cut it either, maybe you need to see the "snuff films" from the Croation war where soldiers rounded up every teen girl they could find and filmed their rape and murder. Right now as I type this I could easily find and down load kiddie porn involving young girls who are not even teens. Am I saying girls are sexual predators, gays are, heterosexuals are? See a trend yet?

Humans are sexual predators, and not only are humans sexual predators...they are predators period. Everything which disagrees with us we destroy. If something is in our way, we move it. WE fight over difference in color and argue over the opinions of pion superstars. We fight over sports figures and teams. We take advantage of the weak and lock away the old.

My point is if you can only see the bad because something doesn't agree with you, then open your eyes pal, because there is a whole world to be
affraid of.

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and that's about how I feel on the matter.

Call me bored, but I want to see this thread reach 400 posts.

you didn't afend me but you did offend me...

if god made adam and eve then we must also remember that he made all the gays lesbians and bisexuals out there today.

is that it's not even me. When my brother came out, he was in high school, but I'm in middle school, and everyone at my school was talking about it. And this was before I realized I was. And still, Takeda's mom wouldn't let him sleep over because of my brother. If we were girls and I had a straight brother I doubt this would've happened. Hell, Takeda is the reason I realized I am, and because of this in itself he is no longer my friend. People fear gays because of their stereotypes as sexual predators, but this is almost always not true.

I know Poncho personally, and he is a great guy. Being bi does not make him evil or sinfull, but people discriminate and fear him. He almost lost one of his friends when he made it known. Several of his friends parents won't let him in their house. Homosexuals and bisexuals are normal people with different points of view, and anyone who discriminates like that is ignorant.

Me and gatorade had a mail conversation when I couldn't log on to the boards for some reason, and let's check how it went. I'll be updating this as it goes on.

First, I inform him I'm bisexual and that I know I did NOT choose to be this way. Couldn't find the actual text. I know I said that rap is bad music, though.

Gatorade:dont judge my music, and i dont care what u think because i know whats right. the way you feel is sad and wrong. people choose to be gay. and thats all there is to it.

Me:I can't believe this. To claim that someone with firsthand experience knows less about homosexuality than you? I know that I did not choose to be this way, both me and my brother are. It's genetic. And no, before you say so, there is no incest. I, myself, am buddhist. I don't preach god, I only try to make people happy and eliminate hatred. To find any form of love as wrong because you are loving the wrong thing is a surefire way to just spread hatred and discontent. Me? I'm extremely hateful of you, and yet I try to use more logic than just " i dont care what u think because i know whats right." There is no absolute truth in this world ethically, any type of love can be false or for personal gain. And I feel sorry for you, not because you haven't been saved by jesus or some ****, which you probably think you have, but because you have started hating a form of love and claiming that the people in this catergory know less about it than you? Please, I ask you, try not to hate love. That will only lead to unhappiness and me possibly telling people to send you viruses.

So... uh... yeah.
Back me up, Spooch.

Now now icm, let's not being to discriminate this christian religion. Those who believe in it chose too because it's their faith, not yours. No matter how much you think christians are irrational thoughless morons, they don't think that of themselves because that's their faith. Besides... what am i saying? This topic is about homosexuality being wrong, not about how narrow-minded christians. Right?

For all you Christians out there who hate homosexuals, you're not Christians at all. Christians are supposed to be people who care for everybody regardless of who they are. So PrincessMonica12 and sweetNkrazy4U, don't call yourself Christians because you obviously don't know what being a Christian means.

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nevermind icm91, im'ma pray for all of ya'll. ya'll some crazy lil *******. i hope ya'll get ya'll facts right before judgement day. peace!!!

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Here my friends we have the perfect example of the typical christian: Can dish it, but can't take it. A christian telling me to get my facts rights. Hah! Being Christian means, pardon this expression, giving up your god given reason. What do the following two people have in common: Someone who believes that a man can walk on water and be born from a virgin and someone who claims that little men with pitchforks live in the center of the earth and little green men live on mars? They're both irrational, thoughtless, morons, who are cruely depriving a village somewhere of their idiot.

[This message was edited by YNLissa on July 27, 2003 at 04:59 AM.]

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aww, man...im'ma pray for you.

nevermind icm91, im'ma pray for all of ya'll. ya'll some crazy lil *******. i hope ya'll get ya'll facts right before judgement day. peace!!!

if ya'll never hear from me after this, it's because i'm tired of provin' ya'll wrong and it not getting through.

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O-okay. I'm sure God doesn't really want his children calling each other names like "*******" (thought that's actually spelled incorrectly). And I have a funny feeling icm, and many of us, don't care to ever hear from you again.
Maybe you should pray to God, asking him to bestow a bit of tolerance in your heart.


eternal enemy of dubbed/cut anime,
logos

[This message was edited by YNLissa on July 27, 2003 at 04:57 AM.]