Only a misinterpretation of the Bible could lead one to believe that it condemns loving homosexual relationships.

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I have been told that God loves us all, no matter what race, age, religion, etc. It doesn't matter, he loves us all the same. Yes, he loves us just as much as he loves his devoted followers, so why can't we just accept people as they are? God does it, so why can't you Christians, who are supposed to be Christ-like, do that?

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Yes god loves everyone the same, but he does not condone a sinfull lifestyle. the verse is slipping my head, ill find it and post it in here.

I do not know why, they're making such a big deal out of this. What people want to do with their lives, is nobody's business but their own.

I don't see anything wrong with homosexuality, you're just the same as the next guy, except for the fact that you prefer to be with people of the same sex. That is in no way, to my understanding, dirty or unclean.

You say it's in the Bible, but can anyone tell me exactly where? No, I have yet to see proof of what some of you are saying.

I have been told that God loves us all, no matter what race, age, religion, etc. It doesn't matter, he loves us all the same. Yes, he loves us just as much as he loves his devoted followers, so why can't we just accept people as they are? God does it, so why can't you Christians, who are supposed to be Christ-like, do that?

*Star*

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Though I don't agree with homesexaulity because I think it's unclean

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Unclean? I think that's a new one. What exactly is so dirty about it?

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(God did make Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, or Even and Beth a man and women

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This, unfortunately, is not new at all.

Though I don't agree with homesexaulity because I think it's unclean and goes against what God teaches us to do, (God did make Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, or Even and Beth a man and women though I believe this I am not going to judge anyone who is gay, because who are impefect ppl. to judge or condemn anyone else when we are imperfect just as the next guy! If we don't want to be judge, let's not judge others.

~Mela
~*Luv to all!*~

Not at all, avenger, I was just making a point.

Solemn--thanks for the apology, I appreciate it.

Now im hoping you just did not call me insane...

Now, now, Avenger, you're being harsh. I do not thrive to bring people down. Nor do I take the blame for it. I just prefer to be logical (at times anyway). If I were to go around saying that I've been spoken to by a being, (not mentioning it was God) I'd be considered insane. Undoubtedly. I'd probably be taken in for a psych exam, which I would most likely fail, and either be put on large doses of drugs, or committed. Yet, because you label the being who talks to you "God" it's just fine and dandy. This, frankly, strikes me as rather odd.

And thank you, for that compliment on my mind. No one really knows how it works, which was/is my intent.

Now, it's time for me to fill my head with rather useless knowledge (school).

I'm sorry Jstar. I didn't mean to offend you. Truly.

~Yours,
Solemn~

Well, it's been fun debating - and this time, I'm seriously leaving.

My work here is done, and hopefully, with the help of some of the other Christians, we'll have more Gospel spread throughout these boards.


Of course, everyone probably knows my stance on the homosexual lifestyle and other immoral acts, but hey!

God's directing my resources elsewhere - I've had four (with the fifth coming) Dallas TV stations do stories on articles I've written - so yeah, more concentration on the newspaper.


The "liberals" and conservatives alike - it's been cool, take it easy, and maybe one day you'll see it from my perspective.



joeydauben@hotmail.com
http://www.joeydauben.com

Solemn--No need to be rude. Please don't treat our faith as if it is a mere joke...there are many ways to get a point across and be civil at the same time.

Teddy--Don't worry, I'm not gonna go into a schpeel on homosexuality, you can read my other posts if you want to know my view. You said that "God will take you as you are." I completely agree...but you're leaving out a crucial part. Sure, anybody can come to God no matter what their life has been like...but after becoming a Christian changes should be seen! While I would never be 100% positive that a murderer who claims to be Christian (yet continues to murder) was going to heaven or not, I would have serious doubts simply because a sign that God is working in a person is that the person "bears fruit." (meaning to produce fruits of the spirit...love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control)

Ha! That's a good one. God is fictional to me. I do not believe there is one right way. People choose their paths. Not God.

~Solemn

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Unless snoopy heard it *directly* from Jesus/God whatever, it's not valid.

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I dont understand how your mind works, really. Its almost like you thrive on trying to bring other people down...

God does speak to us, its just not in an audible voice. You see its hard to explain.There are so many different aspects to it. You see it can be an Extreme emotion, a feeling, When suddenly you can understand something you would usually be able to not understand, A song will burst into your head and it will sound like you have headphones on, Ive personally had visions so vivid, i could feel the breaze in my hair. He can do it through words on a page of a book... The list goes on and on.

I know God is real, And i know what he said in the bible is real. No I cannot give you any hardcore proof of it being real, But i dont need it, or care for it. cause i have never been happier in my life and i will not change what go has given me for the world.

First off, to Avenger and snoopy: You know when you tell a story, you change it, just a little bit, but the more often you tell it, the more it changes. Unless snoopy heard it *directly* from Jesus/God whatever, it's not valid.

Now, this statistic business. Fine, if you choose to accept it, fine....HOWEVER: how many partners do heterosexual men have per year? (But yeah, I'm not saying anyone believes the stat, as I'm rather skeptical of it...)

Um, needless to say I believe homosexuality is ok. I mean it's not like they are having feelings towards the same gender just to get everyone upset and annoyed. They can't help it, Some try at first, to lie to themselves about their truth feelings but they just can't help the feelings they have. Like you can't help the feelings you have for your girlfriend or boyfriend, you can't just drump them because of a problem ,right? Well, it's kind of the same with this, not really, but kind of, if you really think about it.
Please, i beg of you, don't say to me that I'm wrong for thinking this, that God created man for woman, not man for man or woman for woman, please don't say it's a sin.
Beacause some of you in here that are writing the posts, wrote other posts saying that the Bible wasn't written by God, but instead by other men who were trying to explain the mysteries of life at that time. So in other words, we don't know if really God believes it's a sin, we don't know if God created Eve for Adam, it just says in the Bible that God first created Adam and then he created Eve(Or maybe it's the other way around, I'm not sure, sorry) Point being, people say God will take you as you are and I believe that.
I don't know what to believe in but that's what I think.
Bye Have a nice day Everyone
Signed NobodyImportant

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Okay, I've got a question. I read somewhere about a survey given to some large number of homosexual men that ended up saying that most homosexuals have almost 50 partners a year.

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Whenever you see a statistic or the results of a survey or anything like that, always ALWAYS check the source. Some are incredibly biased and flat out wrong.

I'm not saying that statistic is wrong because I haven't done a lot of research. But I just found that same statistic on a web site that also described homosexuality as evil, homosexuals as sinners and promiscuous, and the world as having "bought in" and "been fooled" by the gay community.

I'm thinking that's not a source I'm going to take completely at face value.

http://www.gayscribe.com/fortworth/gay101/reactions/partners.htm

Okay, I've got a question. I read somewhere about a survey given to some large number of homosexual men that ended up saying that most homosexuals have almost 50 partners a year.

Now, please please don't think that I'm stating this as truth, in fact I very much doubt it. I was just wondering if anybody knows how true this is. As for those of you who are homosexual who are involved in this topic, I'd really appreciate your input in particular, seeing as how your information would be a bit more firsthand.

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You do realize that in the time the bible was written, it was not accepted by anyone to love another person of the same gender, so yeah, of course the bible would say it was wrong. It was a way of life. Since then, that way of life has died and a new way of life has erupted into view. Take it, I'm not saying love it, mind you, but just take it. It will not change.

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huh, do you believe in what the bible says? if you dont, dont tell me (or anyone else for that matter) what the things said in it mean...

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You also say that there is "only one way and that is God's way." If that were the case, we'd all be Christians, which thank heavens (pun intended) we are not.

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I hate to alarm you, but the only "right" way is Gods way. Granted there other roads you can fallow. And i do not think any different of you for the road you take, But only one road leads to heaven, The straight and narrow.

Let me explain the evolutionary theory of homosexuality that I described on another board. It's in response to your assertion below:

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man and woman. and why do you think it is that a man and a woman have sex and children are created... it's because if we are to reproduce, it has to be that male/female combination... not a "****"genous mixture... it is not normal...

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Very early humans (nomads and those involved in hunting and gathering) probably didn't have a significant amount of time to devote to child-rearing, given the stressful nature of day to day life. The line of thinking is that homosexuality provided extra adults who were not producing offspring of their own to help with raising the children, the archetypal "Gay Uncle", if you will. So not only is homosexuality not "unnatural", but it is a necessary evolutionary trait, designed to help with the propagation of humanity.

You also say that there is "only one way and that is God's way." If that were the case, we'd all be Christians, which thank heavens (pun intended) we are not. There are many ways and it is for each person to choose her path.