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Your Lord told you He sees homosexuality as a sin? Really? When?

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~outspokenme

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it says in the bible, "no man shall lie with another man."

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~SnoopyD

... need he say more.

I'm interested in which religion you place your faith snoopy. I also find it amusing you do not capitolize "god" because for a believer, that seems rather, well unreligious.

Your Lord told you He sees homosexuality as a sin? Really? When? And I'd be interested to see the other parts of the Bible that condemn homosexuality.

To add to it all, does it not say in the Bible, in the Ten Commandments, no less, "Thou Shalt Not Kill" but yet, people kill in the Lord's own name...To me, this is a greater offense than something you cannot help.

I highly recommend you straighten a few things out in your own head.

hey guys and gals... homosexuality is down right wrong... i say this not only from the perspective of a strong believer in attraction to the same sex, but also from the standpoint of a devout christian. i love the lord and i try my best to uphold his commandments and instruction for my life. it says in the bible, "no man shall lie with another man." that's enough for me to know that homosexuality is wrong because it's forbade by god... other places in the bible comdemn it too. i totally agree with the first person who wrote about this in saying that god didn't make adam and adam or eve and eve... he created adam and eve and it was then that he made the mold... man and woman. and why do you think it is that a man and a woman have sex and children are created... it's because if we are to reproduce, it has to be that male/female combination... not a "****"genous mixture... it is not normal... whoever said it is has a few things to straighten out in their mind... not saying you yourself are a homosexual... don't be offended... i'm just implying that there is only one way and that is god's way... homosexuality is evil and impure... the lord sees it as a sin... if you are a homosexual, then please read the new testament about jesus and what he can do in your life... if you know him and accept him into your heart then you will be changed... it says in the bible that you'll be a brand new creation in christ... let that encourage you... please turn away from your evil ways and just let them go and accept christ... signing out... this is snoopyD... later gators

Birdy, it's actually normal - yes, NORMAL - for kids, boys and girls, at young ages - to have an affection for the same gender.

It's not only scientifically true, many religious (i.e., Christian) leaders think it's natural.

However, that doesn't mean someone is "born" gay.

And no, gays shouldn't be killed, or thrown in jail, or assaulted because of their sexual orientation.

You claim that Jesus made us in a different way, which is absolutely true.

But if you think Jesus made people gay, or believes in Political Correctness, then you've gone too far.

The Bible is absolutely clear; God's laws and message hasn't changed - and homosexuality, according to the Bible, is a sin.

Sin is sin. You can't be homosexual and expect a worse "judgement" over someone who kills someone - sin is sin.

But you preach tolerance, yet there are people on here that would just like to see the Christians and "right-wing" types thrown in jail too; I read that a couple of times now.


I can meet a homosexual person and not even say anything about them being gay - I know (personally) several gay people.

But when they start DEMANDING acceptance and DEMANDING we Christians, or anyone else, to tolerate what they do, then they've crossed the line.

I obviously have an opposing view towards PCness, but that doesn't me that I - or any other Christian - should be thrown in jail.

PrincessMonica12, in a parallel universe, how would you like to be imprisoned because you are attracted to the opposite sex when the rest of the world is homosexual? Based on the ferocity of your previous posts, I would say you'd raise all the he11 you could.

And speaking of love and attraction...as a little girl, did you up and decide one day to be attracted to little boys? I sure as he11 didn't. I liked little boys because...well, I just did. I love the 'Apple Jacks' commercial for this topic. "Why do y'all like Apple Jacks?" "We just do!" I mean, that answers so many questions. Homosexuals are homosexuals because they just are. Heterosexuals are heterosexuals because they just are.

God made this world, and He made us all different and special and wonderful in our own ways. Perhaps the reason God made people predisposed to homosexuality is because He was trying to teach us all the value of tolerance. I mean, if we're going to survive as a species, we've all got to learn to live together as a big (VERY big), happy family. We can't just go killing off our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters or putting them in prison because we are uncomfortable around them. Basically, I think homophobes are just plain uncomfortable around homosexuals because they're different. If we locked up everyone who's different, we'd all be in prison for the rest of our lives. That would be quite a sad world indeed. I mean, who would generate the tax dollars to pay for our meals if we were all in prison? <<a little joke there...

Tolerance is the way of the future.

Peace,

Birdy

Sex is a part of any relationship, Joey. What's your point?
And how long have you been straight? Have you ever been gay? Do you know how it feels? How do you know it's not something you\re born with? You don't, so please shut up unless you know what you're saying.

Yes, and all the intolerant things and insensitive statements is somehow worse than calling me or anyone who shares the same views as me "biggots."


Practice what you preach.

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All the homosexual posts on YouthNOISE mention the love and attraction and the "I was born this way" lie

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How do you know it's a lie? Joey, I am assuming that you are not homosexual (if you are then you must have real trouble living in your own skin). Anyway if you have never been attracted to a member of the same sex then how can you possibly know whether those feelings are 'real' or not?

I am getting so sick of homosexuality discussions. Round and round we go. Spare me from the biggots of this world…

Jenny, I didn't state anywhere that homosexuals couldn't feel love or lust or anything like that.

I have not once said that they couldn't.

However, the "garbage" was in fact, the stuff about homosexuality is just about love and lust and what not.

All the homosexual posts on YouthNOISE mention the love and attraction and the "I was born this way" lie, yet people don't discuss the overall act of being a homosexual.

That's what I meant to say.

I like how you people circumvented the original meaning of my post.

Of course, if someone were to look at what you guys put, which was the "up the butt" quip, they would think, "OMG that guy is SO rude and insensitive!!!!"

Yet, you people have a very good way of taking the WHOLE meaning - offensive or not - and using bits and pieces.

Come, on people. It's like quoting someone in an interview - mention the other stuff before you hammer me on one little part.

Therefore, my explanation:

The comment, "isn't the(a) big purpose of homosexuality an excuse to ram someone up the butt?" was meant to include the sexuality of the lifestyle.

Granted, the thing was highly offensive if you were to just read it like it was - until you read further on when I said:

"...if we're going to talk about the 'love' and 'attraction' and the other garbage the YouthNOISE liberals spew out about this lifestyle (notice I didn't say 'race'), the sexual characteristics is a given and should be discussed as well."


There.

If love for homosexuals is bull****, then so is love for hetrosexuals. I mean, why not just anaylize what love is? And what about bisexuals? Are you saying that someone who is bisexual can love a woman, but his attrraction to men is just an "excuse to ram someone up the butt"? How do you know, anyway? How many homosexual and bisexual people did you talk to? And you do realize hetrosexuals have anal sex, too, right? There's huge gaps in your logic, Joey, however you might try to make us think you know what you're talking about. Or maybe you should just stop using 'liberals' as a dirty word.

Homosexuality as an excuse to "ram someone up the butt". Damn. I've never even heard that one before. Let me be the first to say that's the most idiotic statement I've ever heard on the subject of ethics and sexuality. And this discussion of love and attraction being garbage? Urg.

I've said it before, and I'll probably end up saying it again. You don't know what you're talking about. I know this is supposed to be a debate with countering views, morals, yadda yadda, and I'm fine with that -- but how dare you tell me and other *****s that we can't feel love and lust just like everybody else.


Love, Jenny

jstar, isn't the(a) big purpose of homosexuality an excuse to ram someone up the butt?


Seriously, if we're going to talk about the "love" and "attraction" and the other garbage the YouthNOISE liberals spew out about this lifestyle (notice I didn't say "race"), the sexual characteristics is a given and should be discussed as well.


I know, I know - the topic did trail off.


But seriously.

And hey, would you, if you get time, e-mail me or IM me sometime? I'd like to talk to you more.


joeydauben@hotmail.com
AIM: joey75154

I love this:

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i am not gay, but

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Why do people feel the need to preface they're "tolerance" with a clarification about their own sexuality as if it was something to be protected against or otherwise disclaimered.

Your personal sexuality is not at question, your opinion is.

I agree that it was a weird turn for the discussion, but I also think it can be a productive one. How can we have a discussion about homosexuality without discussing heterosexuality? Isn't what really upsets people the thought of two people having sexual relations that deviate from what we consider "normal?" I think it's good that we're establishing and challenging our conceptions of normalcy in investigating the way we feel about ab-normalality. Where do we draw the line of what makes us uncomfortable...if it isn't at missionary, where is it? If it isn't at fetishism, where is it? If it isn't at b i-sexuality or swinging from chandeliers or whatever floats someone's particular boat, where is it? This is important stuff to think about and have formulated opinions about if we're going to continue a discussion started by the suggestion that people who make us uncomfortable should be put in jail.

I find it interestind that a discussion on homosexuality has turned into one on sex positions.

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I'm confused...are you being sarcastic RockGirl? Cause if not, good luck ever having an orgasm.

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Haha, yes, I was being sarcastic. I'll try not to be so subtle.

Right,
I suggested neither acrobatics from a chandelier nor toys of any kind. All I'm saying is that a large percentage of women fail to reach climax from intercourse alone, fewer still from run-of-the-mill missionary bumping and grinding.

I hesitate to speculate on your own experience. Maybe you've rounded the bases a few times when the pitcher was tired, but if missionary is it for you, you'll never be Babe Ruth or even Craig Paquette. There are lots of things infinitely better for all parties involved. If all you do is swing away at every pitch, you're not being a team player and perhaps should work on your own technique or lack thereof.

This is a response to brook35 and her reply about making love. I dont know who you are with but if you cant have the big-O in the missionary position then I believe you both need to work on your techniques. The last time I checked you didnt have to have toys or even swing from a light to have the ever elusive big-O in the bedroom or what ever room you have it in.

I'd just like stick up for the majority of Christians who are against homosexual lifestyles...because those I know are not as close minded and brutal as princess, here. (I thought it was sarcasm at first.) I may be against the homosexual lifestyle (please don't try to debate this...I've heard the arguments and we just need to agree to disagree) but I would never suggest ostracizing gays or throwing them in jail, or harming them, etc. etc. etc. To be honest, this was the first time I've ever heard somebody seriously suggest jail time for homosexuals.