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Picture of listenup
Registered: November 10, 2005
Posts: 44
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Yeah im new at this but so what my problem is teenager guys. we are such a bunch of loser there are alot of guys that i know and despise cause all they want is sex and they wont stop at nothing to get what they want. They dream sex wish for sex and all the care is about sex they strip girls in there minds and they think dirty all the freaking time. As a youth educater/Counseler I hear some pretty weird stuff. But seriously guys we need to put a stop to this. why do you honestly think girls like gay guys more then straight it is because they are not undressing them or being perverts and wishing to get in their pants. Girls if your reading this and you agree hit me back with what you think guys if you know guys like this then tell me that to. I have learned one thing God counts every tear a girl crys so make sure none of them are from you, Guys and Girls alike Men have the power to stop Rape..................................
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Registered: July 20, 2008
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yes i do consider that rape, guys should have enough manners to know the girl is drunk and he should respect that,

and i agree, its too much trouble to go to the police, but i had to because it got to the point where i thought he was going to kill me,

she should just have to say no and that's the end of it, but most guys are jerks and don't get that 'no' really means 'get the hell off of me and leave me alone' and Wolfie is right most of them are unreported i bet that if everyone reported rape it would be 600,000 or above


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Registered: December 18, 2005
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Well, do you consider it rape when a girl goes out with a guy and gets drunk and he has sex with her even though she really doesn't want to?

A lot of girls experience date-rape and for some reason a lot of people don't think of it as rape because of the intoxication of the girl... but it is.

Now that I think back on it, I was raped... but back then I just thought I was partying hard so I excused it. Now I realize what really happened, but wtf am I going to do? Go the cops, yeah okay. And say what? Oh this person had sex with me when I really didn't want to... To much effing work, I'd rather just move on with my life.

I think that's how a lot of girls feel. They feel like they were stupid for 'allowing' it and not putting up much of a fight. Then when it's over, they'd rather just forget about it than deal with the police and the courts and having everyone know what happened.

I don't know what the hell your talking about 'romance in rape' or girls using rape as an 'excuse' but you really do not know what you're talking about until it's happened to you.

So tell me, is it rape, if a girl gets messed up on booze and drugs and three different guys take advantage of her in this state? What if there was a guy who got girls drugged on purpose and made money off of them while they were in this state? What if the girl said "Nooo I really don't want to do this." And the guy just carried on anyways because the girl is too drunk to try to fuss about it?

Why should the girl have to make a huge fuss anyways? Shouldn't she just have to say no once?

Rape happens a lot. 300,000 women report rape each year and mind you, most rapes go unreported.


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Registered: July 20, 2008
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i don't understand why girls lie about being raped, i agree it's not funny,

one of friends hadn't known i was raped, and so she told me she was, and i asked her 'are you serious?' and she said of course not but that she felt like a whore..
i haven't talked to her since people think its funny.. but when you experience it its not something to joke about, after i had my first daughter and it started happening again i went to councilling, it ate away my life, and i had even considered suicide its something i wouldn't even wish onto anyone.. but in a way i'm glad it happened, or else i wouldn't have my boyfriend or my daughters, or have an amazing friendship with Beca


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Registered: December 05, 2007
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Sometimes I wonder...

What is the fascination with some women and rape? There was a time when I seemed like all the girls I knew where raped and all the guys I knew didn't rape anyone or knew anyone who did. It almost seemed like the same rapist is out there racking up some pretty impressive numbers.

I don't know what the romance in lying about being raped is. It isn't glamorous or funny. And I know it can't possibly be happening as commonly as I hear about it. I tend to believe it happens more like:

"I had sex with a guy I don't know. I feel like a whore. I was raped. All better."


"Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD... -Isaiah 1:18
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Registered: July 20, 2008
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she "loved him too much",

but i did, and then he got out on bail and commited suicide..


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Registered: December 18, 2005
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okay.

So basically, there was a serial rapist and neither of you decided to call the police...


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Registered: July 20, 2008
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there is a typo in my first, he committed suicide after i had his child, and then my boyfriend corey and i had one, she's a month and a half now,

but beca todd's old girlfriend is having a worse time, he had raped her, and she had triplets, they'll be one on thanksgiving, and after she had them, she got pregnant again from him and had them prematurely and they are now a month old.. and doing wonderful,


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Registered: January 15, 2003
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there's alot more that i'll post later



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Registered: July 20, 2008
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okay so from what my boyfriend told me, well actually let's start from the beginning,

in July of '07 i went to basketball nationals and met a girl named Beca, she lived and Michigan and when nationals were over we still kept in touch, after awhile me and her brother started talking, and we eventually dated, her boyfriend came on to me and i told Beca although her boyfriend "Todd" threatened that he would make my life hell if i told her, but i did anyways b/c she was a good friend and i thought she should know. after that my her brother and i broke up, as did Beca and hers and her brother commited suicide, todd was pissed, and he had an ill sister that was living around my area, so he came down to "be with her"

as for my bf now, he was abused and had to start taking care of his younger brother and sister and had rented the house next to todd's sisters, todd's sister was in the hospital, and he had the run of things around her house, and one day when my boyfriend, Corey, was about to head out looking for a job, when todd said "hey i have a job for you, i need you to rape this girl so i can watch, b/c i swore i'd make her life, and i'll pay you for it", Corey was desperate for money, and he accepted, so they found out where i lived and came and raped me in my house (my parents work nights) that's about it, but eventually todd raped me b/c he wanted me to hurt from him and not someone else, i got pregnant and he started beating me to make me lose the child, corey couldn't stand to see anyone abused, after he and his brother and sister were so he told todd to back off and stop, and he began to, and corey and i started to hang out, and as you guys should know were now together, with two children from todd, although he committed suicide after i had his second child.. there's alot more that i'll post later


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Registered: December 18, 2005
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this guy payed him to rape girls.


Care to go into the details?

I mean I've heard of guys, who drug girls and then sell them to their friends for a night, but never a guy who pays another to rape women...

That just sounds fishy and a bit untrue.


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Registered: April 15, 2003
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it is the worst possible thing


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Registered: July 20, 2008
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is that a good thing or bad thing EarthGoddess? lol


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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Damn basketballer, you're like the new Sunset on this site.
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Registered: July 20, 2008
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its not just in teenage minds either, so if your taliking to guys don't just point out the teenage ones, you have to think of the younger ones and the adults that are like that too..

i was raped by a guy that didn't even want sex, he did it b/c he needed money and this guy payed him to rape girls. the only reason he did it was to help pay for finances, since he was only 15 and was trying to raise his younger brother,

i'm now with him and i love him to death and im really glad that i found him, especially since my daughter will have her real dad in her life

so don't think that guys rape girls because they're always thinking about sex, there are many other reasons too..


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Registered: August 01, 2009
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Sex is probably in most teenagers minds. It is perfectly natural. Teenagers are at that age where they become sexually aware of themselves. So guys are more open about it- big whoop. If I could read minds, I will gurantee you that girls think about sex as much as boys do. Rape is about forcing and asserting power- not by thinking pevertedly.
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Why do you honestly think girls like gay guys more than straight guys it is because they are not undressing them or being perverts and wishing to get in their pants.
Sorry, I pick friends because of their personalities, not sexual preference.


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Registered: June 09, 2009
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okay dont you think you are being a little harsh on the guys? seriously. Im a teenage girl and have plenty of guy friends and know many guys and yeah I agree some perverts ar elike that but not all guys are. you have to be comepletey honest, that not all guys are like that. Most of my friends are guys and most of them dont always think about sex. And I dont care what you think about me but seriously give the guys a break!

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Registered: March 07, 2009
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lol boys will be boys afterall especially when they are teenagers and their hormones are all over the place. alot of my friends are guys and i know for a fact that quite a few of them are not concerned with sex. and to be fair i know a few gay/bi guys who are more concerned with it than the straight guys. I must say that i think the guys who can supress those thoughts though are really good guys. I'll still be friends with the ones who can't supress it though cuz i understand that sometimes they really can't help it. but whats annoying is when i meet a guy who knows hes obsessed with sex and insists on making it a part of every conversation. then i just wanna slap him upside the head (lol but i'm not a violent person so i wouldn't actually do that)


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Registered: November 23, 2008
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Here's how I look at it:
Teenage guys are horemonal, they can't help it really, but the difference between a good guy and a bad one is that a good guy will override that desire with rational thought and emotion. I have lots of guy friends and they know that life isn't all about sex, it just happens to be in the back of their minds alot, and I say kudos to them for supressing it. Smile


sometimes there doesn't even have to be a reason...no matter how much you turn things in your head, trying to make sense of them, some people just defy all logic
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Registered: May 16, 2007
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Hey! No haters here. Guys may not always be trustworthy, but that doesn't mean that they're evil incarnate!
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Originally posted by listenup:
And yet even though quit a few ppl made good points i still hate men


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