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I don't know how many times I've had to say it. The death penalty is not barbarity.

I say that depends on your definition of barbarity.

I don't know how many times I've had to say it. The death penalty is not barbarity.

It is not excessive. It is not an injustice. To say so is just a thin veil to cover deeper, anti-American rhetoric. "Ooh, the US is just like North Korea because they have the death penalty! Do you know the ..tens of people that have almost been tortured because the chair malfunctioned/veins were bad? Like, omg, the US is just full of barbaric people! There is like, no justice in the 'land of the free.'"

Please.

Why don't you update the burnt-at-the-stake method, and help the enviroment, by throwing them into a biofuel power station. That way, they die, you create somehting useful from them and it is eco freindly.

Or to use a Swiftian alternative, kill them and turn their skin into fashionable clothing?

Only one state in the US ONLY allows electrocution: Nebraska. And they've only had 3 executions since 1973.

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that's why when you execute them, make it in a way that they do not get to reach martyrdom (sp?).

The problem is that many see committing the crime that caused their death as noble. Especially if the execution came snice they wouldn't reveal information.

The solution is to not give them an option of life if they confess.

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It punishes the family as well as the perpertrator

perhaps it should for raising such an SOB

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It can also make matyrs of people like terrorists who want to die

Terrorists normally don't WANT to die. They die because of their beliefs. To them they must die for their beliefs and not be suicidal otherwise it would take the whole meaning of "sacrfice" away from them. that's why when you execute them, make it in a way that they do not get to reach martyrdom (sp?).

I found interesting things on this subject in a school text book...

The state of Nevada uses cynide gas to carry out its sentances.

Electrocution was orignally a horrific outcome of Thomas Edisons attempts to prove the dangers of AC voltage. The prisoner is litteraly cooked internally and death may require multiple shocks.

81% of knowen executions take place in China, Iran and the USA.

Racism is inherent in the number of executions. (I can't remember the statistics)

It punishes the family as well as the perpertrator.

It can also make matyrs of people like terrorists who want to die.

To society, death penalty's are better than life imprisonment. Do you know how much it costs to keep a prisoner locked up? You gotta pay for everything; his/her food, clothes, entertainment, heat, court cases, etc. It gets pretty expensive. Execute them.

for acts of pure evil this includes Rape, Murder, Kidnapping, Genocide, Terrorism and so on

Justice is who decideds who hangs, Justice should be blind though sadly it is not we need a stricter justice system for death penalty cases but it should still be an option

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Originally posted by ampmaster:

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the death penalty is an act of barbarity.

to punish those who do worse

I agree with JP2 when he ais that the death penalty should be used rarely, but Ibelive the option should always be there

The option should always be there? For who? And better yet, who is the one that has the right to decide when and when not someone should die? In which cases should it be used?

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the death penalty is an act of barbarity.

to punish those who do worse

I agree with JP2 when he ais that the death penalty should be used rarely, but Ibelive the option should always be there

To me the death penalty is an act of barbarity.

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Because good people do not disregard the law

That's very relative.

Anyone who claims the death penalty acts as a deterrance is a liar. I've always said and believed that.

However, that doesn't mean it isn't a useful tool in punishing those who proved themselves unworthy of the trust and freedoms that they have as humans, and Americans. I don't believe someone who has such disregard for society, its rules, and its people should be allowed to waste away in a bed, getting meals and such. There are millions of homeless people who just spend their lives on a stoop. They could committ crimes and be locked in prison (where they'd have clothes, a shower, a bed, and food) but they don't. Why? Because good people do not disregard the law and commit acts of barbarity and selfishness.

"The death penalty does not deter crime. Tougher sentences do not deter crime. Roadblocks do not deter crime. Door-to-door searches across America will not deter crime. Any crime control policy based solely on deterrence will not deter."

So says the American Society of Criminology(sp?)...

I really dont believe in the death penalty because the peron really isnt suffering

Civilistation.

33 years of civilistation is better than nothing.

This is not a fucking competition to see who's country is best...

Wow, this topic has been up for a long time.

True, however this God could be Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Zeus, Allah, Ahura Mazda, Dao, Satan, whatever. God is a general term.

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A compass in common with whom? Not Britain, not the EU, not Mexico, not Canada, not Nepal. Then whom? Cuba, Iraq, Sudan, Korea? Interesting....

That there is you fooling yourself into thinking the death penalty is a sign of barbarity or terrorism.

What you must take into account, is that since laws vary between countries, what constitutes violent/serious crime, assault, etc. also changes. So, the terms for the death penalty vary as well. Just because the US and Iraq both have the death penalty, doesn't mean they are enacted for the same reasons.

What I was obviously referencing with "common moral compass" was when our country was founded, and our laws put in place. The framers of our Constitution were of all varying religious feelings, highly educated, and all in favor of a penalty of death. And by gosh golly, do you know where we got our statutes for the death penalty from? None other than Britain itself.

I guess outlawing it 33 years ago makes you morally superior.

No, it couldn't, since Buddha is not a God.