Of course people know what they are doing, but is it fair to blame it all on them?? Shouldn't the tobacco companies get a little of the blame??

The tobacco industries can be blamed for their ads and commercials and influencing teens to smoke cuz its cool and wont kill you... But we have free will. We know the consequences of smokign and we know that its unhealthy adn we choose whether we will smoke or not... make the decisoin that is best for you... and ppl shouldn';t judge you if you do smoke... its yor decisoon and yours only. Peace out and dont hate! Violence doens;t solve anything!

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So, yes, let's talk about seat belt laws.

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Inside my car is not public property, without a search warrant I do not have to allow a police officer to look in my car. That is neither here nor there....

Seat Belt laws are a BS scheme for us to pay the police departments instead of the government. They know by raising taxes there will be an uproar so they invent idiotic laws like phoney speed limits and bogus seat belt laws to name a couple. I've got an idea, stop contributing my tax money to moronic funds for the advancement of whoever and give that money to the cops.

I'm not feeling this right now...but someone will get me going....

Barrio, I did a story on MADD Road Checkpoints and I had one of the local chapter presidents tell me this:

"Your car, by law, is not private property. Anytime you travel on a public roadway, it is not private property."

Basically, she said authorities can tell you what you can or cannot do in your own car.

So, yes, let's talk about seat belt laws.

I'm surprised at the libertarian tendencies of a lot of folks on here... *Mr. Burns' exccceeelent*

I think we all feel the same way about asinine 'for your own good' victimless 'crime' regulations that make fenlonies out of activities that are harmless to others, billy...

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If you want to screw up your body, by all means, go ahead; but damn, we don't need the government to babysit every single person and make sure we're tucked in at night and ready to get up in the morning.

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thank you....should I talk about seat belt laws now???

The taxpayer-funded CIA has trafficked tons of cocaine, heroin and other drugs for ages, so do you honestly believe the government gives a rats about the dangers of tobacco?

It's all about money, and it's all about control; Clinton's Big Government Trial Lawyers got what they wanted - a HUGE settlement and fat consulting fees.

You can argue, argue, argue all day long about what is and what isn't good for you, but quite frankly, if someone does smoke, it's none of your damn business!

If you want to screw up your body, by all means, go ahead; but damn, we don't need the government to babysit every single person and make sure we're tucked in at night and ready to get up in the morning.

You socialists are ridiculous.

my pet peeve is people who get millions of dollars from cigarette companies. I saw one the other day that the family was sueing because they said that it helped to cause a member of their family to die from lung cancer. I am sorry but that money wasn't gonna keep her from dying. The problem is that people want to blame the cigarette company for them smoking. I mean people have said for years they cause cancer, look at the writing on the box. If you look at it from that point of view shouldn't a non-smoker sue a smoker because they smoked around them and gave out second hand smoke. Also what about beer companies ,it is more dangerous to drink because it actually impairs your judgement. Just something to think about.

It's the people's fault, so they're the ones who should be blamed, and rightfully so.

Finally, someone (ahem gemini) blames the PEOPLE for their habits and not the substance.


Like I said...accountability and responsibility.

Billy, fattening foods aren't addictive; people just tend to over-indulge themselves when they can, hence America's obesity problem. That's my opinion, anyways

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And if you're gonna tax someone for being fat, why don't you go ahead and go the extra mile and tax someone for having blond hair and blue.

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now you are starting to get it....please read my other posts....

if they can tax one group of people, why can't they tax others?

and higher tax will not stop anyone, already almost everyone I know gets their cigarettes from Sweden for half the price....and guess what? That is tax money the US Government no longer gets, in the long run it is hurting us. If it goes higher and higher like Prohabition Days, well we just welcome more organized crime families back into our lives. In my city people drive cars through the front of gas stations....they don't even go for the money...they take the cigarettes!!! It has caused more crime and has taken money away from all of us by non-taxable importing of cigarettes. It's a lose lose situation...someone needs to get it....soon I hope...


low self esteem is not the answer for everything...textbook maybe....

Actually, people with overeating disorders suffer from low self esteem while anorexics and bulimics are victims of the social pressure to be slim and have low self esteem. We tax somkers in the hopes that the habit will become too expensive to maitain, but people have to eat to live. Besides, we already have a tax on food. And if you're gonna tax someone for being fat, why don't you go ahead and go the extra mile and tax someone for having blond hair and blue.

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The difference between fattening foods and tobacco is that one is addictive.

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eating isn't? then why are there so many people with eating disorders....by the way...if we can tax smokers outragously....shouldn't we tax fat people, they are also a health risk!!

I didn't even see this thread until tonight, and I'm glad it's here.

The Anti-Tobacco Industry was big with Clinton, most of YouthNOISE's acclaimed "hero" (gag).

Anyway, this subject goes back to the MAIN two words EVERY student in school should be REQUIRED to learn about: accountability and responsibility.


I don't care I don't care I don't care HOW many ads you see on TV, or how many I see, my personal self, Joey Dauben, will not pick up a cigarette.

Hence, responsibility. It's my responsibility to make sure nothing harmful enters my body, BUT if it does, then it comes to accountability.

If you get cancer, you are accountable only to yourself for making an irresponsible choice.

Big Nanny Government shouldn't get a dime out of the Tobacco Industry; the states shouldn't get a dime out of the tobacco industry. And of course, people who are dying of cancer shouldn't get a dime of the Tobacco Industry money.


Clinton - a die-hard socialist - loved to go after the big, bad corporate types.

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fattening foods in general are not as harmful as nicotine

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I know they teach you this in school, but nicotine is not harmful, it is adictive. The harmful part of cigarettes is the stuff they put in it to preserve it, called TAR. Among many of the ingredients in TAR is Ammonium Hydroxide, Ethyl Acetate, Phosphoric Acid and Sodium Acetate...they are dangerous!

Why is that, ICM ? Cigarettes cause cancer and various other bits of Bad Craziness, unlike cannabis. ALcohol and cigarettes have about equal risks, more die of tobacco, but generally from related diseases, while a large number of people fatally overdose on alcohol.

The difference between fattening foods and tobacco is that one is addictive. Tobacco causes your body to develope a chemical dependency on it. Fat foods don't. But I'd rather have my friends smoking a cigarrette than drinking or smoking pot.

Billy, fattening foods in general are not as harmful as nicotine.

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fight tobacco. It sucks to die young.

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give me a break!!

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Facts showt hat smoking is unhealthy.

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so is eating twinkies and oreos!!! lets ban them or put $5 taxes on them!!!!!!!!!!