Barak reportedly offered the Palestinians 90% of the Occupied Territories. But with the West Bank "settlement blocs" (10%) and land in the Jerusalem area that Israel would "annex," together with a "security zone" stretching along the Jordan River and southward, over 25% of Palestinian land would remain under Israeli control. (Remember that the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem comprise only 22% of pre-1948 Palestine.) Israel would also supervise all border crossings in and out of Palestine, control its air space and main water supply, and indefinitely retain military and civil control of the "security zone." No viable state could result from this offer: Israeli "settlement blocs" would incorporate Palestinian villages with about 90,000 inhabitants and much of the West Bank's fertile land. These "blocs" would cut the Palestinian state into three separate segments connected only by narrow strips of land. Barak's offer addressed neither the question of the 61 Israeli settlements located within the future Palestine nor the issue of Israeli control over the 300 miles of bypass roads built throughout the Occupied Territories. Barak reportedly offered Palestinians sovereignty over some outlying Jerusalem suburbs and administrative control over other neighborhoods near the city center, but no details were supplied. Israel would exercise sovereignty over Haram Al-Sharif, Islam's third holiest site. Palestinian refugees would renounce the right to return from exile or to be compensated for their losses and suffering.
If I was to reply to your comments I would have to spend my entire life correcting your "facts" & your "information", so for now i'll just ask you to read Nadia, 911, canaanite, peace4justice, kahira, & imightcare's comments along with mine.
If you were reading my posts you'd have realised that none of your arguments was still standing, & that you haven't "proved" anything I said to be wrong. & you'll stop asking me to prove you wrong. i'm really sick of posting things dedicated to you, I don't want to fight, I just want to show you the truth, so stop dedicating your posts to me & then attacking me like this "All you people do is say the facts bushsupporter, proudconservative and I present are false". If you want me to stop attacking you, at least stop asking me to!!!!!!!!!!! & in case you haven't noticed you're the only one I attack because unlike you the rest at least try to back-up their comments even if i dont agree with them, they're not as stupidly bull-headed as you.(even though they're backing you up)
For your information, any OPINION is BIASED. Therefore all of your comments are so [without any exceptions]. As for mine they're mostly facts posted. & All the rest are either to present logical arguments or to disprove yours. & one more thing, stop insulting me, {RESPECT is what you OWE}.
I'm so sorry to hear that, trust me, the last thing I ever wanted was to hurt anyone. I don't know if you're aware of this, BUT: there's nothing to worry about since you're pro-israeli, if a war ever takes place I garantee you that Israel would end-up winner. I also garantee that Palestinians along with all their allies wouldn't last more than a month against them, & that Israel won't suffer much damages. AS for "i thought that everyone thought like you", if this was true then I wouldn't have been here. The media is doing a great job in covering up for Israel, so almost everyone is pro-israeli. Don't worry.
I hope this makes you feel better. Sorry again, but I have to post some facts. Americans should become aware of the other side of the story.
marine16, i wanted to say that i am very proud to know that there are people like you in this world. You dont see all the fake things on TV and support it. You're completely right, most of the news is completely pro-palestinian. I havent written on this board, because i have been so disgusted by it. and im happy to see that people like you are supporting what's right. My entire family lives in israel. My cousins are in the Israeli army. I cant even describe the pain im going through and the fear...i love my family more then life itself..and it does me good to know that there are people who are there and know the facts. Thank you! and keep it up! im very happy to see this. as for the rest of you...you need to stop the crap and you need to learn the facts before you dare write anymore crap on this board.. i went to sleep crying one night because i thought that everyone thought like you..that's how important this is to me.....
you fool. Do you think Palestinians fled just because they felt like it??? duh, the Israelis kicked them out. there have been many well known massecres from that also. And why did they take 78% of the land???? if you do not see that taking someone else's land is not a crime then your brain is seriously disturbed.you need to read more books. don't make up stories and assume they are true. what in the heck are you talking about? " the media is pro-palestinian" i don't think so..even the news anchors say that they are and they will now start to be balanced! ( somebody doesn't watch the news)the whole media is controlled by jews! i know this for a fact. Sometimes i can't see the differance between Israel and America...they are the same. Did you know that all you tax dollars are going to f-16s, tanks, helicopters, etc. to kill civilians, demolish houses, demolish buildings...and so on..????????it's such a shame and a waste! and when the UN voted to send protection to the Palestinan against Israel everyone voted they should except for...OF COURSE...The US. DON"T TELL ME THAT ISN"T BEING PRO-ISRAEL! Do you know what the israelis did to my uncle? the forced him out of his apartment along with the other men who lived in the building, made all of them take off their clothes, blindefolded them, and made them run from 7am-2pm, and if anyone stopped they would shoot them! Horrible! for no point what so ever they did this to them. they think they can do whatever they want and get away with it...and you know what. They Can! cause it has happened. and you know how they sometimes report israeli soldiers getting killed? You know what they were on their way to do???? Kill people, deomlish houses, humiliate them. the martyrs kill them selves because....israelis have killed their families, deomlished their house, killed all their friends, taken away their land, humiliated them, and taken away their dignity. They feel there is no point in life to watch as people die and their land slowly goes to the control of Israel. They want to live side by side with Palestinians you say???? Why are they invading cities? In jenin, Israel killed HUNDREDS of people and tried to hide the bodies!!!! what??? i mean, how low down do they get after lieing and making excuses.Also, they invade REFUGEE camps! and start killing people there after they flee from them after they force them out of their homes! Leave the Palestinians Alone! Get out of their land! They already have 78% leaving Palestinians with only a demolished 22% of the land! what more do they want? And don't say to get the terrorists out because they are the true terrorists.
The Jews kicked no Arabs out when they came to Israel. The Arabs fled on their own accord. they fled because they were afraid of being the minority. No one made them. Some stayed and killed Jews. They even killed defensless Jews on ships who were coming to Israel. You can not dispute the fact that the Arabs started killing Jews before the Jews killed Arabs. And yes, kahira, the Jews did want to live side by side with the Arabs. The Arabs ruined that when they declared Jihad on the Jews. Ar eyou suggesting the Jews shouldn't have defended themselves?
As proudconservative has said, they have graciously given the Siani Pennisula back to Egypt. Dispite the lies you are publishing, Kahira, this proves the Jews are willing to make sacrifices for peace. This also proven when the Jews were willing to give Arrafat a free state and he declined. They had their shot for freedom, and they declined. They simply do not want it. Kahira, you comment, 'Egypt beat them in Sinai.' is ridiculous. Israel has never lost a war.
'you ignore all the facts againstwar, canaanite, 911 have staed'. Well I have news for you, I haven't ignored them. Infact I have proven many of them wrong and bias. At least I am willing to reckognize some of your 'facts'. All you people do is say the facts bushsupporter, proudconservative and I present are false and do nothing to prove us wrong. You people like to hide the facts that hurt you and exagerate the ones that don't.
As for American media. i don't know where you people live but our media is very pro - palestinian. It even seems our government is. the only exception is in the minutes immediatley following suicide bombers. Pick up a magazine or turn on the tv. You can not deny American media is pureley for Palestine.
'You did not respondto the Israeli quotes,' In case you can't read, I will repost what I have twice written, 'Kahira, if you would read my posts you would see I did respond to the Israeli qoutes. I said, you people are fools for being caught up in 'horrible' things the Jews say while the Arabs say worse things and blow up Israeli citzens.' Read my posts before you make accusations. Find me proof Israel does those things. And don't use your ARab papers who only care about the eradification of Israel.
you people call me, bushsupporter, and proudconservative bias and brainwashed. That is sad. We do not live in a country that has government who want to eradicate the Jews and are the sole reason the 50 years war started. We live in a pro-palestine society. We are far from brainwashed and bias. You can not see the forest for the trees.
Who starts this fighting? And you call the Jews racists. Why are the Arabs against Israel? Because they are Jews, not Arab. If Arabs would have moved into Palestine and the Palestinians would have fled, no one would have cared. And you call the Jews racsist. As I have said, againstwar, you anti-semitism scares me and I suggest you seek counseling.
Q + A for Kahira Since England controlled a country, they can do whatever they want with it and the UN agrees. Arab papers are bias because, as I have proven, they despise Israel's exsitence. They want to gain sympathy from Israel's supporters. They want to make Israel the bad guys when they know it is them. Proudconservative allready proved that Arabs lie in their papers. We use geurillas in palce of terrorism in war. That answers your weak Vietnam question. The Jews would let American Christians live in Israel. The UN, not the US allows Israel to have nuclear weapons. The UN does not let other Arab countries because they would use them and have expressed a want to use them. I am sure they let Saudi Arabia have nukes. I know we let Pakistan have nukes. The UN lets stable government has nukes, not unstable one. We couldn't have killed Huessian becuase the UN wouldn't allow. Post your other questions, they are too petty and irrelevant to search for. They prove nothing.
'As you probably read,the Zionists already wanted Israel to spread across more Arab land than Palestine' This only goes to prove me point that all you people care about is words, not actions. Israel only defends, prove that wrong. They have never made any attempt to expand their land. You people are scared of what Israel says but disregard what Palestine does and focus on them saying 'we wan't peace' while that same leader who speaks pays suicde bombers.
Stop asking questions that lead to 'flooding' of this site. Prove what I say wrong, with the whole story, not just the bias-palestinian story.
Only facts are not stated in your perfect media world, this admitted years ago by Palestinians themselves. In order to gain support for themselves Palestinian leaders told those who were fighting the jews in a town to stae that children were lined up and killed and pregnant women raped, all as propaganda, something you all are against the US using. More in a little while.
People are so blind here. How do you think it is acceptable for the jews to kick the Palestinians out of their home land and use the excuse," well, we were here a thousand years ago!" ha..makes me laugh at how they get away with those excuses excuse after excuse ( or should i say lies) People get confused with the term suicide bombers and martyrs. The Palestinians are martyrs! They Are Fighting for their country! Whether you believe it or not..This is War! plus..people always ask why do they do it? because of the occupation!!!!! bye killing more palestinians day after day they are creating more martyrs. then they have the excuse to say that they will go after those families. Eventually they will have the excuse to kill ALL THE PALESTINIANS!! THIS IS GENOCIDE!- the killing of a racial or cultural group. Also, The Israelis are using the excuse " the US is digging out terrorsists in Afghanistan so we are doing the same to Palestinians" NOT REALLY! you have no idea of the crimes the Israelis are doing over there. You want to know why? THe media in the US is so Pro-israel is sickening. not trying to be racsist but the media is composed of all jews. You are not getting the acurate news all the time. if you go to Europe it's more even for both sides. I'll let you know that Europe wanted to trial Sharon as a WAR CRIMINAL! here that? A war criminal! Also...what the Palestinians are fighting for right now is only 22% of the land when they really were supposed to have all of it till 1948 came. the israelis are getting the other 78% of the land! but no..they want it all! don't you see? that's why they are invading the cities. To demolish the homes and buildings so they can rebuild it ALL as Israel!! and America is going to let that happen. Unbelievable!
STOP THE OCCUAPTION AND PEACE WILL COME! HONEST... trust me on this one. Nadia
okay look im sorry if i offended anyone. but i think that both sides are doing wrong..if you choose not to believe it, i cant change that and go on with wat u see on tv (and wat you DONT see). all i am trying to say is that they both are doing wrong things...i saw a picture in the news paper today- men wounded/dead/dying in a huddle waiting to got o hospitals.. (palestinian men) destroyed house, little kids screaming and crying as troop run into thier homes..and thier mother tryin to calm them. Then i see another headline Israelis dead...i see pictures of an Israeli girl standing in street corner next to blown house. THEYRE BOTH DOING WRONG...I THINK THEY SHOULD BOTH COMPROMISE IN A DECENT MANNER..USING BOMBS, ETC...WONT DO ANYTHING BUT KILL MORE PPL. i say they sit down and solve this..maybe this time..all members will be ALLOWED to come to the meeting (ehem)
proudconservative: a)Israelis have shot at churches before;I doubt they have any problem with it b)The point isn't dying for God,but fighting those who oppress us;the suicide bombers need little encouragement ,I imagine,this being the only way they can resist;if Arafat died(as I'm sure Israel and its allies would love,considering he's been holed up with no medical supplies and not enough food),it would be disserving because then the Palestinians would not even have an official leader;they've been denied human rights even under international laws,the Israelis certainly would not allow them to elect another leader and would call any such contender a "terrorist". c)already the Arab countries are reducing oil exports and the prices are rising d)I did not mention Kuwait at all,but now you mention it,the Us "protected Kwait" for their own advantages,not as an act of kindness e)America's taking advantage of the situation in Iraq by buying oil at MUCH reduced prices(stealing it,really)
Now I have to say that you're obviously incapable of justice or even humanitarian emotion,a fact attested by: 1) "the Israelis earned the right to live wherever they want. They fought off egypt, jordan and syria and even took land from egypt in the process. They graciously retuned it to egypt for diplomatic recognition in 1979". What this says about you is that you think it's perfectly legitimate to bulldoze whoever you want to get what they have;you're legitimizing the stealing of land with not only Palestine,but also the other Arab countries that even the UN did not "give "Israel,and the taking of which is illegal even by their laws;the term "graciously" you foolishly used is negated by a.the land wasn't their in the first place,b.they didn't even do it out of "graciousness",but to gain diplomatic recognition,which,and I repeat,did not even occur till Egypt beat them in Sinai. 2) you ignore all the facts againstwar,canaanite,911 and I have staed considering it "biased" and yet admit that the US,being allies of Isael would certainly not show the full story in their media-in other words,"biased";while we,on the other hand have access to all the sides of the equation,and it's obvious that you just don't care about our side because you think that if all the Palestinians and arabs were massacred,well,whoop-dee-do!
Stop calling Palestinians terrorists because your statements indicate that you think whoever's strongest should win all and the rest should just be grateful to being their slaves, and are indifferent to any ethical aspect,so it's obviously not the violence you're opposed to.
The Palestinian parents don't send their kids to throw stones,the children do it of their own volition;they live there,they see what's happening while you do not(and don't care),they'd be abnormal if they didn't hate the Israelis.
Thank you,imightcare(name?).How evil to think that little kids deserve being killed with heavy armor for throwing stones(and,as againstwar stated,not all the kids killed were throwing anything,and the main Palestinian population was killed or hurt in the absence of arms or even conflict.
MARINE: the Jews never planned on living side by side with the Arabs,as their Zionist documents show-if you didn't read that it's your own fault but I'm sure you did and just use the same old arguements because you have nothing solid to support your blind opinion and weak arguements. If the Arabs screamed war they have evry right to;their agreement with England was to get their land back,not have it given away,and not even content with that,the Israelis attempted their planned "extension"into neighboring Arab lands that were not at all part of even their agreement with the UN.The Jews do not kill to save their lives as the facts staetd by againstwar show.I really don't see how you can deny them.Even proudconservative admitted the US media is biased and wouldn't show the bloodthirsty side of the Israeli occupation to the voting Americans(who I hope have more humanity than you). For the record,I no longer think you 2 and Bushsup.are brainwashed;we showed you the facts and you refuse to see them;this is deliberate ommission on your parts.Again,we see both the CNN and Arab news and are thus awrae of both views.If we hate the existence of a free Jewish state it's because it's not free;not with the true people have been massacred and denied human rights by all standards,not when the crimes committed towards them in the prisons,refugee camps,etc are denounced even by the UN,not when they legalise torture in prisons against all humanitarian laws.
You did not respondto the Israeli quotes,and I REPEAT ,it's not just what they said,it 's what they did and contine to do;reread all the messages and you'll see that the Palestinians could not come up with half the things the Israelis have done;I repeat,the suicide bombings are recent and a last resort;do you really think that's worse than murdering people in refugee camps?All your questions have been answered several times,if you can't see them it's your own fault.
I also have to say that many of the questions I posted have not been answered(do you pick and choose what you want to reply to?)
Also,againstwar has given very little in the way of personal opinion;most of what she says are facts.
Actual statistics from 29 September 2000 to 29 September 2001 for PALESTINE (Gaza Strip and West Bank, incl. East Jerusalem), population approximately 3 million.
Total killed 686 Children (18+under) killed 196 (29% of total figure) Older people (50 years+over) killed 43 (7%) Total killed when no clashes were happening 403 (59% of total figure) Total killed in unarmed clashes 246 (36%) Total killed in armed clashes 35 (5%) Total killed by live ammunition 431 (63%) Total killed by shelling 151 (22%) Total killed by injury to upper body 349 (51%) Total killed by prevention of medical treatment 23 (3%) Total assassinated 35 (5%) Total killed while driving 14 (2%) Total injured 15,969 Crippled for life 1,500 (approx 10% of total)
1-I'm an arab not a palestinian. 2-You're American (allies of Israel). 3-I'm actually not pro-palestinian but your statements obliged me to defend them. 4-everything i've been posting were simple facts. 5-I live here & therefore I know what's going on. 6-Hezballah is in Lebanon TRUE. But most Lebanese (if not all) DON'T want trouble, & don't want them to be here. The Lebanese gouvernment doesn't have weapons to kick them out. & it's the Hezballah that have allies not the Lebanese gouvernment. Plus our country is controlled by Syria... don't get me started!! 7-If anyone have the right to speak bad things about Palestine it's us Lebanese9you don't want to know how many of my family died under THEIR hands), & yet... look at this messageboard, don't you wonder why we're not?! BLOOD ONLY LEADS TO BLOOD. 8-As Kahira already said, our newspapers are very well controlled. Only facts are stated. & btw I watch the CNN(pro-Israeli) just as much I watch the jazira(pro-palestinian), unlike you, I have access to the world's best medias & I've seen the situation from all sides. 9-Proudconservative, The questions you've asked are very interesting, I'm glad you thought about them, ask them to yourself & you'll see that your information can't fill the gap you need to understand this situation. (I'm serious)
As for this question, "If the Jews are racists, than why do they let Arabs live with them in Israel? If the Jews are racists than why do they let Christians live with the in Israel? " I've been showning you all along that they don't, & you're still insisting on this!! (this is why I didn't answer your question) " If the Arabs aren't racists then why do not let Jews live with them? If the Arabs aren't racsists than why do Arab groups have the sole goal of deystroying the nation of Israel?" It's all over my posts, & you still can't understand!! Palestinians want their land back that's all. Israelis are the ones who are being desgraceful towards Palestinians as you can see from my posts... wait i have more facts I want you to check...
Againstwar, whent he Jews moved into Israel they said they would live side by siide with the Arabs in peace? but do you know what the Arabs did, they declared Jihad on the Jews. The Jews wanted peace and the Arabs screaemd war. That is why the Jews killed Arabs, in defense of their lives. Jews offering peace and the Arabs crying war seems to be a recurring factor, prove me wrong.
Againstwar, you still insist I am brainwashed but you are are and Arab living in a couintry that hates any exsitence of a Jewish free state in the near East.
Kahira, if you would read my posts you would see I did respond to the Israeli qoutes. I said, you people are fools for being caught up in 'horrible' things the Jews say while the Arabs say worse things and blow up Israeli citzens.
You, Againstwar have still not answered my questions, 'If the Jews are racists, than why do they let Arabs live with them in Israel? If the Jews are racists than why do they let Christians live with the in Israel? If the Arabs aren't racists then why do not let Jews live with them? If the Arabs aren't racsists than why do Arab groups have the sole goal of deystroying the nation of Israel? If the Jews are racists and hate Palestine so much, why have they made so many peace proposals so the Palestinians and Jews can live side by side in peace? Answer those questiong and you will find that the Arabs are racists, not the Jews.'
You people still refuse to reckognize that 90% of what an enemy asks for, who blows up Discos, out of Israelies own pocket is generous.
Approximately 3,000 Palestinians are imprisoned inside Israel, of whom 1,500 were arrested before the al-Aqsa Intifada. The incarceration of Palestinians from the Occupied Palestinian Territories in jails inside Israel violates international humanitarian law.
Torture against Palestinian prisoners remains common during interrogations by the Israeli security forces. Such practices include: beatings, violent shaking, shining a hot burning light into the eyes and face at close range, sleep deprivation, solitary confinement, and forcing prisoners to remain in excruciating positions for long periods of time. Torture techniques are often designed to inflict maximum pain while minimising physical marks. The UN Committee Against Torture reminded Israel in November 2001 that there can be no justification for torture under any circumstances.
On 6 September 1999, the Israeli Supreme Court found that physical pressure was not permissible during interrogations, but also ruled that the Israeli government can legalise torture if it wishes to do so. Moreover, the Israeli Attorney General officially stated that he reserved the right not to prosecute interrogators who used “physical pressure.” Torture is a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention (Articles 31-32, 146-147) and is thus a war crime under international humanitarian law.
Prison conditions for Palestinians fail to meet minimum basic standards. Palestinian prisoners are kept in overcrowded jails, often exposed to extremes of temperature and provided with inadequate nutrition and poor hygiene. Access to medical care is also unsatisfactory. Palestinian minors are sometimes confined with Israeli criminals, exposing them to physical and psychological dangers.
Due to Israel’s closure policy, Palestinian lawyers have been unable to visit their clients in Israel since 1996, and visits by families have been made almost impossible, despite the efforts of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC).
Israeli military courts do not meet international standards for judicial procedure. Palestinian lawyers often cannot visit clients in Israel, and few prisoners can afford Israeli lawyers. Lawyers are often not informed of the time of their clients’ court appearances, sessions are delayed without appropriate justification, and evidence extracted through the use of torture remains admissible.
Dozens of Palestinians are being held in administrative detention, which is often implemented in a manner that fails to meet minimum international standards for judicial process, including rights to a fair trial, adequate legal representation, rules of evidence, and knowledge of charges. (PCHR)
During the al-Aqsa Intifada, Israeli occupation forces and settlers have killed at least 998 Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). This figure does not include Palestinians killed while attacking Israeli targets. The vast majority of these were unarmed civilians, while 195 (20%) were children under age 18. Some 18,000 Palestinians have been injured. Most of these killings fall into several categories:
Demonstrations and “clashes.” Israeli occupation forces have killed hundreds of Palestinians during demonstrations against Israeli military positions in the OPT, especially during the first months of the al-Aqsa Intifada. In the vast majority of instances, demonstrations are either peaceful or involve throwing stones at Israeli soldiers in well-fortified positions hundreds of meters away. Israeli soldiers frequently respond to demonstrations with live ammunition or rubber-coated metal bullets, even without a threat being posed to their lives or the lives of others, and without first using other means at their disposal. Such excessive use of force is illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention. In most of the handful of cases involving Palestinian gunfire, gunmen were separate from demonstrators and opened fire after Israeli troops used live ammunition against unarmed protesters.[3]
Indiscriminate shelling, shooting, and aerial bombardment. Palestinian communities, especially those located near Israeli settlements and military bases, are frequently subjected to indiscriminate shelling and shooting of residential areas, in some places every night. Heavy machine guns and tanks fire into Palestinian villages and refugee camps, while Apache helicopter gunships and F-16 fighter planes bombard Palestinian National Authority (PNA) office buildings in civilian areas. Such use of force is disproportionate and often indiscriminate, resulting in deaths and damage and destruction to many homes.
Assassinations. Using helicopter gunships, undercover units, and booby-trapped explosive devices, Israeli occupation forces have killed dozens of Palestinians in operations designed to eliminate Palestinian activists, including both political leaders and militants. These assassinations are a form of extra-judicial execution. They take place without any evidence, trial, or opportunity for appeal. In almost all cases, arrest is not even attempted. Moreover, Israel carries out assassinations in ways that show complete disregard for bystanders; dozens of bystanders, including at least 9 children, have been killed in such operations. Assassinations are strictly forbidden by the Fourth Geneva Convention and have been universally condemned, even by allies of Israel such as the United States. Incursions. Israeli army units frequently launch massive invasions of areas under the jurisdiction of the Palestinian National Authority, including major cities and densely populated refugee camps. Tanks, armoured vehicles, and bulldozers, often backed by combat aircraft, surround and invade communities, overwhelming any resistance. Israeli soldiers seize homes, conduct house-to-house searches, destroy homes and property, and have carried out mass arbitrary arrests.
Willful killings. Dozens of Palestinians have been killed in circumstances of complete quiet, while walking down the street or waiting to pass through checkpoints, without any violence nearby. Such willful killings constitute grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention, and are thus considered war crimes under international humanitarian law.
Settler killings. Israeli settlers living illegally in the OPT have been linked to a number of acts of violence against Palestinians since 1967. During the al-Aqsa Intifada, several Palestinians have been killed by Israeli settlers, and dozens more injured or beaten. Israeli authorities, who provide generous economic incentives to settlers as well as automatic weapons for their “protection,” have failed to adequately investigate such acts and punish those responsible.
In the hundreds of cases of Palestinians killed by Israeli occupation forces or settlers since the start of the al-Aqsa Intifada, the Israeli government routinely fails to investigate and prosecute those responsible for killings, and in none of these cases has compensation been paid to Palestinian victims or their families. This has created a climate of impunity amongst Israeli soldiers, settlers, and police.
According to the United Nations Children's Fund, UNICEF, 261 Palestinians have been killed in the ongoing clashes between Palestinians and Israelis, including 97 children under 18. Spokesperson Lynn Geldof also said that 9,802 Palestinians have been injured in the clashes, including 4,116 children (AFP).
MARINE: It's not the words of a brainwashed that are going to change facts or history [especially not diprove them]. I maintain what i said. Check the UN reports [their men are on our borders].
BUSHSUPPORTER: I'm not telling you to look at MY newspaper, in the contrary, I'm asking you to see diffenrent points of views. Start by reading the history of this situation, then check the American-Israeli, arab & european news. It's easier this way to realise what's TRUE & what's NOT.
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