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Picture of rito
Registered: May 06, 2003
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There hasn't been a real democracy since athens. And just because they have a 'democracy' doesn't mean they can take people's land.

-rito
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Registered: July 24, 2003
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Isreal is the only democracy in the whole region which is surrounded by fanatical Muslim slum.
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I really, really can't see why the Jews need ALL of Israel, they're the ones who moved in and took already lived-upon land.
I also don't see why our country supports them.

Can you honestly blame for the Arabs hating the Jews? They moved in and took their homes and land because "God said so". nuh-uh. that ain't gonna work. yes, everyone should just let go and agree to peace, but human nature isn't gonna let that happen soon!

If i had it my way, Israel would be roped off as a pilgrimage zone; there are Christian, Islam, and Jewish landmarks there. If one group can't have it peacefully, no one can.

-rito
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Registered: July 24, 2003
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The Isreali's were there first. If Palestine wants there own country, let them fight for it. We did.
Registered: July 31, 2003
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i seriously am very shocked at some of your comments about the Palestinian people...for some of you saying that Israel is a peaceful nation that is doing only what is necessary to defend itself is completely ridiculous....its sad that some people have been completely brainwashed by mass media like cnn who are completely one sided...i suggest u try to take a look at the other side of the story....how can some people say that all palestinians want is death to Jews, Israelis etc.?!?! my best friend is a palestinian and i can guarantee that those are not his views! the fact of the matter is that as declared in the universal declaration of human rights and in countless other human rights documents..all ppl are entitled to their right to self determination...it is an inherent and necessary right that is refused to the palestinians by the Israelis, the United States and all those that support the supposed "Israeli cause"...Israel is a belligerent nation that wants to bring down the Palestinian people for their own selfish needs...general dayan an Israeli representative to the United States once said "As long as we have the United States as our ally, the Suez Canal as our military border, and the Arabs as our enemies, we should be alright." Is this a statement from a so called peaceful and defensive nation?? NO! it is definitely a statement from an entity that thrives on the conflict and wants nothing but to retrieve power through very deceptive means. Israel has the third strongest military in the world and it is the 13th nation in the world in terms of good living conditions....Israel is a nation that has a greater gnp than the nations of Egypt and Oil Rich Saudi Arabia....and yet everyday the Israeli government is oppressing the palestinian ppl...60% of these ppl are jobless and over 70% are homeless. In the gaza strip alone 1/3 of the land is reserved for 3 million palestinians and 2/3 of the land reserved for only 3,000 Israelis....the Palestinians are caged up in the Gaza strip like animals! Is this any way to treat any human being?? Once Israel stops its reign of oppression only then will there be peace in the middle east....
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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No one truly knows what happened In The Begining. But we all believe stuff. I think what I believe is right but for all I know no one could be right. But since nothing has been proven to make my faith incorrect I still believe it.
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Registered: March 02, 2003
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I'm sorry, this is not the topic, but I have to ask this. Some chick said "JESUS WILL DEAL WITH THEM-AND YOU". Do people who say that not know that there is a possiblity that Jesus and God and all that Christian stuff isn't real? Do they think that is the only thing that could be right? What is it with people who say things like that? Are they so ****ing arrogant they can't think for one second that there is at least a teeny tiny possiblity that God and Jesus and all that stuff isn't real? How ****ing cocky are they?

Sorry, ignore me, go back to Isreal/Palestine.
Registered: July 03, 2003
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I totally agree with your opinion, but if they are living in separate lands and still cant stand eachother...wouldnt you think it would just get worse with them sharing the land...?? good solution, but I dont think it would work...
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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We all came from one Faith: Judaism. Isaac and Ishmael were born: Judaism and Muslim. Jesus came: Judaism, Muslim, and Christian
Registered: June 22, 2003
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Understand this. all three religions are of GOD all have teh same texts, all have their own sides. all are peaceful, radicals on both sides started this battle. dont ever blame muslims for this because they have stuck with the jews thruout history they fought along side eachother in the crusades. when the muslims had control of spain the jews had very many freedoms the christion Reconquesta shoved all non christians out of spain, its only been in recent years that jews and muslims have animosity towards eachother. The Quran teaches muslims to respect christians and jews because they are gods people, they read the holy texts of god.

side note i do not have a belief religously, i just think all people should seek peace.
Registered: June 15, 2003
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Neither side of this argument is innocent. Not the Palestinians, not the Israelis. Both are guilty of "terrorism" (I define that as someone who purposely uses fear to manipulate another party). I think that a peace agreement can only be reached if both parties decide to sacrifice some of their demands with the common goal of creating a peaceful situation. And, in my opinion, neither group has truly done this.
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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My mum believes tht too. I dunno.I just want peace
Picture of lekuche
Registered: April 09, 2003
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l really think that abbas(palestine's prime minister)is just a figure head, the palestine authority is divided with arafat still dictating underground.am sure the recent blasts by hamas was funded and backed by arafat.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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As long as Palestine and the Arab Nations continue to support and defend Hammas there will never be peace in Israel. Everytime Israel brings concessions to the table, and the few times the barabaric government of Palestine does, Hammas does something to set negotiations back. How can Israel be expected to negotiate with a government that supports a group whose leader has said "I want ever Jew in Israel dead."?
Picture of lekuche
Registered: April 09, 2003
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Thanks for the first time geminiangel,l go back a long way superstar.
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Registered: November 22, 2002
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I know what it means??
just doesnt sound right lol
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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They mean the SAME thing, SuperStar. "Israelite" is simply an older, more biblical term.
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Registered: November 22, 2002
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Sorry im an ISRAELI not an ISRAELITE?!
just a correcting you, gee chill
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Israelis shouldn't get any special privilages because some biblical text claims that Israel is the holy land. Give me a break.

The Palestinians and Israelis are both haulting the supposed "peace process."
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