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Picture of caerat3
Registered: November 27, 2002
Posts: 1381
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I know how you feel about Killing. I'm sorry.I would rather hear the F word every 5 minute than a bomb. Killing has nearly destroyed my life.
Registered: May 24, 2003
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What the hell are you talking about???Im sorry to tell you guys but you're fu**ing out of your minds!!!Israelis are dying toooo!who cares about stupid palestinians?It pisses me off because you dont see the native-americans killing us americans because we won their land!And it's been Israel for generations, they just got fled out of their country and came to clame it back!
If i was arial sharon id f***ing blast them away by now! and i can say whatever i want so shut up!
Picture of SuperStarAngel
Registered: November 22, 2002
Posts: 45
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it is clear that Isreal has benefitted most from the violence so far, the violence they used to occupy these territories in the first place

EXCUSE ME?!?I think it's time you shut the F up and lay off cos what your saying is a load of CRAP!Where the hell do you get off??Why would occupying the territories be a benefit to Israel??
It's our country and all we're doing is stopping them from coming to kill us!I dont know if many of you know this but as in Israeli, ive seen a lot of horrifying things and suffered alot! Im sick of some of you lame a** people telling me your ppl are better than mine! I dont agree with any of the killing but as ive said once before:"IT TAKES TWO TANGO DAMMIT!" so stop making yourselves out to be angels cos ur THE EXACT OPPOSITE!!!
I can be stupid and arogant like some of you and put hate related quotes that palestinians have said, but i wont because i have no need to prove myself to you people. I know what i know,and that is that palestinians kill my people daily and expect nothing in return, sorry,it doesnt work that way dumb a**es.
I am fairly safe because ive lived in Canada most of my life, but for the times ive lived in Israel and for the stuff i see on TV, ive seen and heard enough!
Picture of Bravo
Registered: March 22, 2003
Posts: 24
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Donald Rumsfeld refers to the "so-called" Isreali occupation of the Palestinian Territories.
He should listen to what Sharon has recently said;
"I think that the idea of keeping 3.5 million Palestinians under occupation is the worst thing for Israel, for the Palestinians and also for the Israeli economy," the website of Israeli daily Maariv quoted him as saying.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2939552.stm

I wonder if he has only just noticed. And I wonder what he is going to do about it. He has up until now used Palestinian terrorism as a pretext to do what he likes in the occupied territories. But now he admits that they are occupied, it is clear that Isreal has benefitted most from the violence so far, the violence they used to occupy these territories in the first place Frown Confused
Picture of peaceofmind
Registered: March 08, 2003
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Both of them are killing civilians,but who started it in the 1st place,the palestinian resistance didn't come from no where & to your knowledge occupation is much more worse than terrorism

Here are some quotes from Israeli leaders that illustrate the deep and pervasive racism that characterizes the zionist state.
‘There is no such thing as a Palestinian people.’ – Golda Meir,Isreali prime minster

‘There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighbouring countries… all of them; not one village, not one tribe, should be left.’ – Joseph Weitz, 1967.

‘The only good Arab is a dead Arab… When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches." – Rafael Eitan, Likud, 1981.

‘It is forbidden to be merciful to them… Evil ones, damnable ones. May the Holy Name visit retribution on the Arabs’ heads, and cause their seed to be lost, and annihilate them…’ – Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, Shas, 2001.

Israeli Interior Minister Eli Yesha’s response to Yosef: ‘They reflected the overall state of thinking of the Israeli Jewish society.’
Picture of BillyBarrio
Registered: March 08, 2003
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(actually, most of the Jews I've met did not believe Palistineans should die, some were shockingly pro-Palistinean)


I'm guessing they were Reform Liberal Jews and not Hasidic....
Picture of BillyBarrio
Registered: March 08, 2003
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Saying that you don't "conform" to "politcal correctness" doesn't mean you're not being rascist.


oh I am racist now....if white guys or black guys were responsible for walking on to school busses with bombs...I would want them dead as well. I am against any for of terrorism, no matter by who...

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They both need to be stopped, but you side with Israel. Why?


umm...because they have tried several times to end it, evry time, like now, some moron blows up some teens at a disco or a comuter bus. If they blew up government officals or Isreali army men, that is almost exceptable....but innocent people? You have to ask why?
Registered: May 23, 2003
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Saying that you don't "conform" to "politcal correctness" doesn't mean you're not being rascist.

Palistineans are killing Israelis.
Israelis are killing Palistineans.

They both need to be stopped, but you side with Israel. Why?

Hmmm...I'm guessing you're not jewish (actually, most of the Jews I've met did not believe Palistineans should die, some were shockingly pro-Palistinean) so my only other guesses are that you're following the typical knee-jerk pro-Israel view that most conservatives take, or...

You don't like Arabs.

Jah Love
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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BillyBarrio: that response was the most ignorant piece of crap I've ever heard!



Tell ya' what....go over there and ride around on a school bus all day...or shut up. Ignorance is bliss from your comfy sofa.

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No, sorry, BillyBarrio DID say something bad, in that he expressed a stupid, completely one-dimensional lie.


Do I really have to post pictures now of kids hanging out of windows of school busses burning? It's a lie....prove it, I got the pictures....what have you got. And guess what? I don't care what Isreal did, they should swarm on Palestine and eliminate every last one of those scum bags. Oh...don't hate me for believing what I say...hate me because I'm not to PC to say it.
Registered: May 23, 2003
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No, sorry, BillyBarrio DID say something bad, in that he expressed a stupid, completely one-dimensional lie.

That's bad.
Registered: May 24, 2003
Posts: 11
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Im sorry, killing pains me so i swear...at least i swear and dont kill!
BillyBarrio didnt say anything bad, she said it as it is and you should respect that.

I know Israel does stuff too but i just find the arabs to be more barbaric, i couldnt care less for them.
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Registered: November 27, 2002
Posts: 1381
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And don't let anyone give you fuss about Calling it Israel.I say Israel/Palestine becuase that's what i grew up hearing.
And Sam, please watch ur language! Razz Smile Cool Wink Big Grin
Registered: May 24, 2003
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I want peace more than anything. I just find that palestiniasn are the ones stopping the peace process.
Dont give me all you bull**** about how Israel this....and palestinians that....i dont give a ****. Your little stupid fact mean nothing to me.
And no matter what they say, this peace thing wont work, because once a killer, always a killer
Picture of SuperStarAngel
Registered: November 22, 2002
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I just want to say that i couldnt agree more with caerat3, those are my views exactly and i just wish some people would get over the hatred and lean to love eachother.

I still keep my views on everything else though and i hope that Israel will finaly live in peace soon, and i say that because im an Israeli and i have every to deffend my countrys rights.
Im sick of people replying to my posts in:"what about palestinians?!".
I say ISRAEL cos its my country and i want there to be peace there so GET OFF MY BACK!
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Registered: April 28, 2003
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From what I've heard, the president's "road map" to peace seems to be a good idea. But, no matter how good that idea may be, it all comes down to whether or not the 2 sides are willing to compromise. If peace is acheived this time, the credit should go to Palestinian PM Abbas and Israeli PM Ariel Sharon, not president Bush. Without the recent change in foreign policy in Isreali and Palestinian governments, peace wouldn't even be a possibility. Smile

BillyBarrio: that response was the most ignorant piece of crap I've ever heard! Mad
Picture of Jookly
Registered: December 19, 2002
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Bravo the "road map to peace" as they call it. Doesnt specify which parts will go to whom yet. you are wrong. We will have to wait probably at least a year before we can begin posting percentages.
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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I'm just gonna say one thing then I'll get out of your argument.

God Loves everyone.I mean EVERYONE. Muslim, Jew, Budhist, Hindu,Athiest, Christian, anyone I left out? He loves them all.He didn't create murder; he didn't create hate, he knows NO hate.And if he loves us all, no matter what, we should also love each other no matter what.And if we just can't find love, then we can at least tolerate each other.We should be able to talk about our Faith without it causing turmoil, or , if we have no faith, the same applies.In my opinion, one of the things that causes intolerance is the fact we've pushed our Faith onto others so much it puts them off for life.That's why I stopped doing it like that.
I've lost someone i really loved because of fights like these.Please don't contribute to the hate.Or someone you love may be hurt.
Tenai
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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oh boohoo we lost our land because we weren't strong enough to hold on to it....I know...lets blow up little kids on busses!!! Yeah those little kids are the reason...KILL THEM!!!!

Terrorist scum should get no land....
Picture of Bravo
Registered: March 22, 2003
Posts: 24
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Yes Isreal is only jewish country,but they don't have the right to deprive the palestinian people from their land,& their right to have their state.

You said"Israel is now giving them land, happy? I wonder if you will stop killing them now..."

Here are facts worth noting:

United Nations "Partition Plan" to the Palestinians:
You are going to have 47% of the 100% which was originally yours.
"Oslo Agreement" to the Palestinians:
You are going to have 22% of the 100% which was originally yours.

Barak's "Generous Offer" to the Palestinians:
We are going to give you 80% of 22% of 100% of the land, which was
originally yours.

Sharon's "Peace Plan" to the Palestinians in 2,000:
We are going to give you 42% of 80% of 22% of 100% of the land, which
was originally yours, and this 42% will remain under continuous
curfew.

American Zionists" to the Palestinians:
According to our version of the Bible you are entitled to 0% of 42% of 80% of 22% of 100% of the land, which was originally yours.

And there is still more..
Eek
Registered: May 24, 2003
Posts: 11
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Some of the people here are realy arogant.
Put aside all of that and listen to whats what,

-Israel is a country
-Jewdism is a religion, how can you take the only country that is inhibattided by that one religion?
-Palestine does need to have there own country, if not they'll just keep on killing Israelis AND YES IT IS BOTH SIDES WHO DO SO but my god, ITS VERTUALY IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL SOMEONE WITHOUT HAVING THEM KILL YOU BACK!!
get over yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!

Israel is now giving them land, happy? I wonder if you will stop killing them now...
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