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Picture of riskbreaker86
Registered: April 24, 2005
Posts: 872
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i never suggested we should impose our rules on you.


'it's better to have your ministers inside the tent pissing out than outside, pissing in'
Picture of freedomordeath
Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8339
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i'd like to ask why americas gun problem is so prevelent? i mean, nowhere else in the world has as many school massarcres, kids going into grandads arsenal and then proceeding to blow away his classmates...and then what about that sniper-case?


Effing duh. There are irresponsible people out there, and there always will be. And why the hell would you care, all the way from Britain, like to impose bans and whatnot on our country? You guys kinda lost us a few hundred years ago, remember?


Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
Picture of riskbreaker86
Registered: April 24, 2005
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i'd like to ask why americas gun problem is so prevelent? i mean, nowhere else in the world has as many school massarcres, kids going into grandads arsenal and then proceeding to blow away his classmates...and then what about that sniper-case?

I agree it is people who do the killing, but it is not an effective solution to combating crime, its a right realist approach, it works as well as your barbaric death sentance does at deterring crime.


'it's better to have your ministers inside the tent pissing out than outside, pissing in'
Picture of freedomordeath
Registered: June 02, 2004
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I don't agree with restrictions on guns, except when it comes to criminals and people who are clinically (mentally) ill.


Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
Picture of DrStrangelove
Registered: March 13, 2002
Posts: 3477
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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
guns can prevent crime, guns can prevent rape and murder etc, yet fighting fire with fire(arms) is no way to go, try combating crime itself.

If crime is low, there is no need to protect yourelf with a gun...the very suggestion you say you NEED guns to combat crime is sickening.


Firstly, I object to your use of the word "sickening" because you've got little idea about the nature of culture over here.

Secondly, I like your idea about combating crime. Guns don't cause crime, however, and banning them will not reduce it. Crimes will still be committed, and criminals will still obtain and use firearms. Look at the crime rate in your own country following the crackdown on gun ownership there. It was a total failure.

Areas with high gun ownership and carrying rights in the US have consistantly lower crime rates than the rest of the country. This may not be evidence in itself, but it certainly supports the idea that it is not guns, but rather local society, ecomonics, and population density that affect crime.

Either way, if increasing the number of legally owned and used firearms reduces crime, I see no reason why that is "sickening". You'd rather have a situation where the crime rate is doubled simply because you object to the idea of an armed citizenry?


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
Picture of phantom119
Registered: October 19, 2005
Posts: 323
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Then what should we use?


"The price of Freedom is paid in lives" - Adm. Geoffrey Tolwyn
Picture of riskbreaker86
Registered: April 24, 2005
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guns can prevent crime, guns can prevent rape and murder etc, yet fighting fire with fire(arms) is no way to go, try combating crime itself.

If crime is low, there is no need to protect yourelf with a gun...the very suggestion you say you NEED guns to combat crime is sickening.


'it's better to have your ministers inside the tent pissing out than outside, pissing in'
Picture of rugar
Registered: October 23, 2005
Posts: 417
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I believe that people should have guns.
There is a county in GA where everyone that lives there has a gun and their crime rate is lower there than anywhere else.
So, you can tell me all day long that guns do not help keep people save, cause they do.
It's the person belhind the gun that kills not the gun.
Picture of Hunter
Registered: August 08, 2002
Posts: 3
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My computer was going crazy on me so everything was caps, no matter what I did. I saw on the internet that out of 70,000 people who called the cops because of an attack, the cops only was able to help 20,000 of those people. So we can't trust the cops all the time. we have to protect our selves.
Picture of Praetor
Registered: January 24, 2004
Posts: 92
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Not only to I believe in the 2nd Amendment, I believe every citizen should be issued automatic weapons, ammunition, supplies, and be trained in personal protection.

Even if we outlawed guns, you won't eliminate crime. For one thing, a handgun is really a young 100 lb single woman's defense against a 200 lb attacker unless she were Buffy the Vampre Slayer or Dark Angel.

Another thing is that while citizens will give up their firearms, the criminals won't.

In addition to arming the citizens though, I believe we also need to arm the police with automatic weapons, armored fighting vehicles, combat aircraft, and put a million more police officers onto our city streets.
Picture of yogore
Registered: February 02, 2004
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Why didn't you listen to Augon Hunter?

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First, remove caps lock. Second, go to this thread. Third, check to make sure you really turned off caps lock.


you listened to 1/3 of what he said. Why are there so many people that insist on typing in all caps?


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Picture of Hunter
Registered: August 08, 2002
Posts: 3
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I AM A MEMBER OF THE NRA (NATONAL RIFLES ASSOCIATION)> I FOUND SOMTHING ON THE INTERNET ON THIS SUBJECT> IT TOLD ME THAT IN VERMONT PEOPLE CAN CARRY GUN JUST ABOUT ANY WHERE> THERE CRIME RATE IS VERY LOW> YOU KNOW WHY IS ITS BECAUSE OF THE FEAR THAT THEY MIGHT GET SHOT> THEY PUT MORE GUNS IN SCHOOLS FOR SECURITY FOR DEFENDING THEM SELVES> ANYWAY IF TAKE AWAY GUNS THEY WILL ONLY TAKE AWAY GUNS THAT ARE REGISTERED> IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DO HARM DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THEY WOULD REGISTER THEIR GUNS> YOU WOULD BE JUST TAKING GUNS AWAY FROM THE INOCENT>
Picture of northstar316
Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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this tends to be a liberal site, moron. Roll Eyes...
This is the voice of a radical

"To be young and conservative is to have no heart, to be old and a socialist is to have no brain"-Churchill-


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
Picture of goleafs
Registered: October 26, 2004
Posts: 37
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Originally posted by PrincessL:
I do not support guns at all. I know it is the person behind the gun killing people, but guns make it so much easier for people. A lot of children get hurt just because they are playing with a gun that is someone elses, and they just found it because someone left it sitting there. Does anyone support guns? Because I don't see the need for them in our society. What does everyone think about guns in general? Are laws making guns easier to get, anyway to solve the problems in this world? Confused Confused


that is the voice of a liberal
Picture of northstar316
Registered: October 06, 2004
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Originally posted by cowanater:
your all dumb


and you are Roll Eyes. (By the way, when one refers to "the motherland" one refers to "Mother"Russia)


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
Picture of cowanater
Registered: October 27, 2004
Posts: 19
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your all dumb
Picture of cowanater
Registered: October 27, 2004
Posts: 19
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WE SHOULD MAKE OUR OWN WEPONS SO WE CAN DEFFEND THE MOTHER LAND!!!! YAY!!!!!!!
Picture of Danelle
Registered: September 15, 2001
Posts: 1
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Idk y all of u want to take away a very important thing in our sociaty today. Frown it doesnt make sense to me. i thought this was suposed to be a free country. and the last thing that many people would want to be taken away is guns. now guns are not for protection they r a sport. America is a free country and people schould be allowed to have what they want. it is like if we were to say we are going to take away the computer because there are to many kidnapings from kids giving out information. well that is the same information that we are dealuing with guns people leave out guns kids shoot themselves. it is the way life goes think about this. thank you for reading.
Picture of Amaris
Registered: March 02, 2003
Posts: 2224
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Why the hell do you keep posting the rules at random times on random threads?


When the president talks to god are the conversations brief or long? Does he ask to rape our women's rights and send more farm kids off to die? Does God suggest an oil hike when the president talks to god?
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Registered: October 14, 2004
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