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Picture of samurai180
Registered: September 20, 2005
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hey i dont support guns but at least have a dragger or a small samurai sword with u at your house..yea Smile


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Thats what I meant by being secure in my masculinity terpe


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: September 29, 2004
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Dr. just meant that if you have a fanny pack, you'll look effeminate..and guys will think it'll be funny to fuck with you.

You reach into the fanny pack, and take out a fucking .45 and watch 'em shit in their pants.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Wolfie:
I mean that guns have killed the art of true fighting.


Okay I really like you now wolfie mismatched avatar/noisename or not, yes guns have kinda killed off the martial arts but good aim with a fire arm is very much an combat art that you need to be very good to master sides a martial artist must be ready for any situation and I see that as being proficent in many arts from pistols and knives to imporvised weapons


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Yeah plus they'll think you're one of those effeminate guys.


a 45. makes me mighty secure in my masculinity and it's a hell of a lot less obvious the say a shoulder holster which let's you have a friend and not attract trouble a friend in the FBI put me on to it it's also featured in a Clancy Novel "The Teeth of The Tiger"


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: December 18, 2005
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I mean that guns have killed the art of true fighting.


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Registered: March 13, 2002
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Originally posted by ampmaster:
I reccomend a fanny pack for carry you can fit the loaded weapon and two clips and it makes for a good fake out "here let me get my wallet..."


Yeah plus they'll think you're one of those effeminate guys.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I reccomend a fanny pack for carry you can fit the loaded weapon and two clips and it makes for a good fake out "here let me get my wallet..."


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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I carry a .45 cal Rugar... whenever I go off base... San Antonio is a nice city but at night if you dont know where you are, your in the wrong place... a lot of the city that isn't the downtown riverwalk part has a rule: If you dont live there, you dont belong there, and if you are there, your liable to get robbed. More then once I've felt threatened downtown, so I started packing firepower. always full cartridge, always one in the chamber, locked loaded, and put on safe, a flick of the thumb and a pull of the trigger takes half a second.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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WTF does that mean?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: December 18, 2005
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Guns kill lost arts...


-toodles
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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yes I agree completely


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Picture of Mav2005
Registered: December 12, 2005
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Any object or person can be negative and destructive. Cars, boats, planes (think 9/11), guns, knives, etc are all destructive if used in an incorrect manner. However, small arms in particular do kill more than pretty much any other weapon. It's like the drug market really because cocaine/heroin/marijuana are illegal, but consumption is still rising each year. Outlawing or banning guns would not solve the problem because it's simple economics. Where there is a demand, there will always be a supply.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Yeah knives and everything would need to go as well and crow bars people have been killed with crow bars and baseball bats and so on.


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: December 10, 2003
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And what is the "true reason" for the creation of guns?

And are you really, seriously, honestly telling me that if all the guns in the world were to somehow disappear tomorrow, we would be unable to go on living? May I point you back to mankind's very long history of survival for millions of years without guns, and also point out the fact that we were doing fine.

Nope. We don't need them now, nor have we ever really needed to have guns around. They're just mere tools.

And I think the main purpose of guns is to destroy: and that purpose becomes more and more obvious every day in our news, especially on an international basis.

But, YW, you are right that, if placed in the right hands, guns would do more harm than good. But considering they aren't placed in those blessed "right hands", we need to seriously evaluate whether or nor guns are still worth having around. Wouldn't it be better to just do away with them? And spare ourselves the trouble and heartache?


Ok, I see your point; but if you do away with the gun then you would have to be able to go back in history and change the invention of the gun.(Just being hypothetical) The guns invention wasn't generally made to be a weapon, but as a tool as you stated. Sure they are used for the wrong purpose, but that's an everyday occurance in society. And those are the consequences we have to face with, rising productions from gun companies that aren't held liable at the least of a crime being committed by one of their products.

They should share a part in the blame, because if it weren't for these companies manufacturing them in such high quantities, and delivering them to the dealers; also with dealers who shy away from thorough criminal back ground checks; senceless crimes wouldn't be a problem as it is.

But then you have to look at it this way also, if you do away with guns in one society, the underground black market will find a way to still get them through; and thus the cycle continues.

If you do away with one tool such as the firearm, you'll also have to do away with all other forms of weaponry that can fit in its category; as a 'danger to society'.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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only when used improperly humans are negative and positive and use tools that are just that tools for negative ans destructive purposes or use them for positive things (hunting, self defense, etc) on to what Sho said I'd say your most likely right but thats the fault of the defenders if they had put the proper time in learning how to shoot and taken care of the tool they would have defended their families succesfully.


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: November 02, 2005
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None of that negates the fact that guns are mainly destructive and negative


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Registered: July 11, 2005
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And for home invasion, what if I'm a rather small man, with three young children and a wife? If I have no gun, and presumably the invader has no gun, how should I overpower him? I guess I'll just let him kill me and do what he will with my house and family. Because we shouldn't have guns. Oh no, not ever.


I would be very suprised if the number of human lives saved by citizens succesfully thwarting would-be criminals with their personal firearms outnumbers the number of deaths from gang violence and other non-military/police posession of weapons.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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often houses are broken in to every day and hell during bear season in some areas you are considered incredible lucky if a bear or ten doesn't visit your home


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: November 02, 2005
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You have a point, Euterpe, but still, how often does it happen that bears invade people's homes and all that...


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Registered: September 29, 2004
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Not millions. Don't get carried away and forget all the rules of history.

Do you understand the significance of military technology? A lot of our technology was first created and tested by the military. They use it towards warfare and other combatant activities, and we use them in our daily lives.

And the purpose of guns IS to destroy. But they cannot be gotten rid of. Just last year my mom's coworker had a bear inside her house. The large brown bear had climbed onto the deck, smashed open the door, and began tearing apart the kitchen. (Bear hunting was legal then, as it is now since it's in season.)

So she and the husband run outside, she calls the police from her cell (who call animal control.) The husband runs back in, gets his gun, and comes back out. His wife convinced him against shooting the bear, and they waited and the police came and tranq'ed the bear.

What if they couldn't get out of the house? What if the bear had tried to kill the wife? We would've lost valuable human lives because some bleeding hearts want to magically make all the guns disappear.

And for home invasion, what if I'm a rather small man, with three young children and a wife? If I have no gun, and presumably the invader has no gun, how should I overpower him? I guess I'll just let him kill me and do what he will with my house and family. Because we shouldn't have guns. Oh no, not ever.


A lo hecho, pecho.
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